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2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
4 minutes ago, RayDog said:
He is in the center.

Right? Our left left is still right of most other democracies

I am talking about Texas based on polling. That includes his positions on guns.

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  • austingirl
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    I do volunteer work for Beto's campaign (surprise!). I get called a "libtard" on a regular basis and get a lot of responses that are just "#MAGA!" and the like, but I also hear a lot of "who is Beto?"

1 minute ago, RayDog said:

I am talking about Texas based on polling. That includes his positions on guns.

You mean ‘weapons of war’.

Just now, RayDog said:

I am talking about Texas based on polling. That includes his positions on guns.

Beto would be an early 2000s Republican in NYC that could win. He would be primaried as an NYC Dem now. Its actually crazy how Trumpism has even affected the Northeast breed of Republican.  The infection spread rapidly and completely. 

2 minutes ago, RayDog said:

He is in the center.

If he comes out and says, “I’m for background checks on guns, and that’s where it stops.”  Instead of, “that’s a start, and let’s see where we go from there”.. yeah fuck off with that shit.

He’d win TX with that.

Or more centered on immigration. There’s a whole mess of people in this state between the “let them all in” or “shoot on site” extreme sides.  Some of us want to have a plan before it gets too far fucked to either side.   

Same with the energy.  That seemed genuine...  Just about went off on rainbow power before he remembered he was speaking at a forum in the epicenter of the O&G world  

Personally, I’d like to be able to vote for someone with his LGBT views, but not at the expense at what affects me on a daily basis. 

Hilarious y’all think policy positions still matter in elections.  Yes, Beto’s biggest flaw is he doesn’t align with Hillary Clinton’s platform enough. 

On 10/6/2018 at 10:35 PM, Celery Man said:

Plus Ted Cruz lobbied for TARP.

The Cruz campaign and "conservative" trolls really want to turn Beto's billionaire father in law (big real estate business in El Paso) into a thing but are having a hard time making it connect.

Not me. I just think his policies and his politics suck shit. As shitty as Cruz is, he will still beat Beto. Which goes to show how shitty Beto is.

Can't wait to read all the fanboys whining. Maybe they should pick better candidates with better policies. Nah, they will just blame it on the voters, as usual.

2 hours ago, Celery Man said:

obviously this is is not a challenging... "host", but Beto seems very relaxed for the MSNBC town hall 

That’s because it’s a free campaign ad. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, just a fact. 

Oh yeah, Cruz has great policies of scaring people with a BS immigration crisis and saying that Beto wants to turn Texas into Venezuela.

C'mon Ted!

1 minute ago, NameWithHeld said:

That’s because it’s a free campaign ad. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, just a fact. 

right.  that's the gist of what I was saying.

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, I think we’ve learned our lesson from 2016.

However, the parallels between Cruz and Hillary are kinda striking.

An unlikable candidate that’s all but certain to win versus a challenger running an unorthodox campaign with an insane amount of energy. 

I think Beto is going to win but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it. 

One week from right now you’ll either be reaching for the single malt or Drano.  

Just now, NameWithHeld said:

One week from right now you’ll either be reaching for the single malt or Drano.  

other elections are also occurring that night, fyi

6 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

just catchin up?

Yep

33 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I wish Beto fell in line further to the center, or that his partisan peers did. His enthusiasm and passion, if legitimate, is what this country needs.  But, we are a nation divided. 

His peers are liars and slime.  As much as I hope and know Beto is toast at least he has been honest.  

9 minutes ago, NameWithHeld said:

His peers are liars and slime.  As much as I hope and know Beto is toast at least he has been honest.  

Except about his drunken hit and attempt to run.  He lied his ass off about that.  

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Just now, Johnny Sack said:

Except about his drunken hit and attempt to run.  He lied his ass off about that.  

No, he didn't.

3 hours ago, MidTexHorn said:

I see a million Ted Cruz TV ads for every handful of Beto ads. Irritating and not in line with the fundraising numbers. I guess they’re just spending their money completely differently. Hope not works for Beto. 

Some of those ads are put out by Cruz proxies and not the campaign itself.

Beto beats Cruz head-to-head in raising money, but he isn't competing with just the Cruz campaign. He's competing against the Cruz campaign, the Republican Senatorial Committee, the RNC, and too many PACs and other proxies to name. The Cruz campaign money plus indirect investment from these orgs likely dwarfs Beto's $38 million.

At some point, the TV ad market reaches saturation, with so many campaigns and proxies buying what limited air time exists. I have no idea how that works.

 

4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Except about his drunken hit and attempt to run.  He lied his ass off about that.  

Well there’s that......

Just now, David Dennison said:

Nope.

You’re just being a troll now.  He was caught red handed lying his Irish ass off. 

2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

You’re just being a troll now.  He was caught red handed lying his Irish ass off. 

No, he wasn't. Kessler couldn't even find the witness or the cop.

Keep trying, though.

I honestly don't know who will win, but I know it's a weird fucking year.

I know several Republicans who are voting for Beto because they hate Cruz (including some older female relatives who felt Cruz didn't stand up to Trump for Heidi, etc.)..  I know a handful of Republicans in Fort Bend County who are voting against Abbott because of some pardon he signed that pissed off a lot of people.   I think we will see more than a few Republican women who vote for Beto for quite a few reasons (treatment by Trump, looks/charisma, Kavanaugh, etc.) and I'd be willing to bet that they are not openly identifying or answering honestly with any pollsters.

I've seen Cruz running a lot of ads, and every one of them feels like he's trying to get his base out by scaring them - it's clear that he's not converting anybody to his side.  It's the opposite with Beto - his ads feel like he's looking at bringing in fresh voters.

Cruz doesn't have Trump and Hillary at the top of the ticket, and the fact that he kissed the ring and convinced Trump, Trump Jr, Sean Hannity, Cornyn, etc. to campaign for him tells me he does not have a 5-10% lead - those people would not come to Texas and campaign for him out of the kindness of their heart.

26 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Except about his drunken hit and attempt to run.  He lied his ass off about that.  

Username is appropriate since you are a lying Sack of shit.

1 minute ago, elguapo said:

Username is appropriate since you are a lying Sack of shit.

Bro, it was in a 20 year old police report that was never presented to a judge or a jury. It was totally true.

2 minutes ago, elguapo said:

Username is appropriate since you are a lying Sack of shit.

Are you saying he didn’t try to run away from the scene of the accident and wasn’t stopped by someone there. 

1 minute ago, NameWithHeld said:

Are you saying he didn’t try to run away from the scene of the accident and wasn’t stopped by someone there. 

Was it ever established that he did?

1 minute ago, NameWithHeld said:

Are you saying he didn’t try to run away from the scene of the accident and wasn’t stopped by someone there. 

Do you have any evidence that this happened other than an unsubstantiated report from an unidentified witness that no one can track down?  Weren't y'all recently outraged about BK being accused without sufficient evidence?

Do you have any evidence that this happened other than an unsubstantiated report from an unidentified witness that no one can track down?  Weren't y'all recently outraged about BK being accused without sufficient evidence?

I was waiting for that comparison.


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3 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:


I was waiting for that comparison.


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The difference being an actual witness in the case of Justice Bart.

1 hour ago, NameWithHeld said:

Are you saying he didn’t try to run away from the scene of the accident and wasn’t stopped by someone there. 

Trollin’ aint easy y’all. 

7 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Was it ever established that he did?

Beto called the only witness, the woman in the car, and she said no.

LOL at the worst thing dug up on Beto is a 1998 drunk driving accident

How would y'all rate Cruz' honesty?

8 hours ago, berlinerbaer said:

Some of those ads are put out by Cruz proxies and not the campaign itself.

Beto beats Cruz head-to-head in raising money, but he isn't competing with just the Cruz campaign. He's competing against the Cruz campaign, the Republican Senatorial Committee, the RNC, and too many PACs and other proxies to name. The Cruz campaign money plus indirect investment from these orgs likely dwarfs Beto's $38 million.

At some point, the TV ad market reaches saturation, with so many campaigns and proxies buying what limited air time exists. I have no idea how that works.

 

A major legacy of a Beto loss is still a Dem takeover of the House.  Cruz and the gop pacs should have spent $10,000 to get Ted re-elected.  Instead he had to find major donors to pony up tens of millions.   Beto also had to find the money but he had a million people donate $50 or so.   No major Dem group paid a dime into Betos campaign.   

Not to mention that Cruz will be the reason of culberson or sessions loss. and Dems in Texas are more energized than in 30 years.

Even if he wins, Cruzs legacy will be a failure in the big picture.  The gop picked a loser and I don’t understand why they didn’t kick Cruz to the curb this year,  Dan Patrick would be winning by 5 more points against Beto.  And no one likes him either. 

A bad gop candidate wouldn’t even have a warranted a thread.

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2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The gop picked a loser and I don’t understand why they didn’t kick Cruz to the curb this year,  

In fairness, Ted Cruz is precisely what today’s GOP is.  He was Trump before Trump, except actually smart. 

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To be fair, I'm against preexisting conditions, too. They suck and I wish they didn't exist at all.

Oh, they meant against insurance coverage for preexisting conditions.
27 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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I read that as "VOTE" not "VOTED".

3 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Had this happen to a friend in Tarrytown.   Broad daylight, and clearly an adult (who did steal the sign).  They went ahead and just bought another sign, but they have some video and haven’t decided what they are going to do.  

If i had to guess, the people stealing the signs in broad daylight aren't doing it because they think it’ll help Cruz, they are doing it because a family member or friend is openly supporting Beto, or they think Cruznis losing, and it enraged them enough to do something this childish and stupid.   And obviously easily triggered snowflakes.  

Adults throwing political temper tantrums are sad. Hopefully these individuals are identified and shamed.  Is there a civil penalty for violating someone’s 1st amendment rights?  I think placing a political sign on your property is free speech. 

4 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

God damn, Heidi been busy?

8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Adults throwing political temper tantrums are sad. Hopefully these individuals are identified and shamed.  Is there a civil penalty for violating someone’s 1st amendment rights?  I think placing a political sign on your property is free speech. 

Seems to be a lot of fat middle-aged white ladies doing that shit.   The same type you see getting all racist and crazy on you-tube videos.

On another note, I found it extremely interesting that while listening to local KLBJ this morning, the syncophants seemed to be tempering expectations, talking about how polling can be wrong because they use land lines that don't capture young voters and so they may not be accurate.

Political signs are serious business!

I can't fathom how much of a butthurt snowflake you'd have to be to steal/vandalize or harass someone over their signs.

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