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I have zero concerns going forward [OP is a Fucking Liar]

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8 minutes ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

I've calmed down since yesterday, but after that offensive performance I'm way more worried about Gainesville than I was previously. And after 2 blowout losses in 3 years, you can bet your ass Venables is probably going all in on Dallas this year. 

ou sucks tho

I feel like our defense is going to just take over fucking games and if we can actually pound the rock it will setup more deep shots. Everyone will forget about Arch having a bad game against OSU when he's tossing up 40 yard explosives over and over. 

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  • Wulaw Horn
    Wulaw Horn

    Our d was awesome  Our punter is really good.  I don’t think Arch sucks.  This team is going 11-1 or 10-2, making the playoffs and we will be a favorite in every game we play. Fight me!  

  • Ghost of Shag
    Ghost of Shag

    I have only concerns going forward.

  • victory88
    victory88

    So the booze has worn off.  Rewatched the game.  Obviously it sucks we lost but I saw a lot of good things. 1.  Run game.  We couldn’t run the ball last year against good teams.  We ran it for 16

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32 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

sark is going to deploy hands he trusts for returns

and i agree with that

Niblett has hands? Wouldn’t know it after yesterday

5 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I do have one concern. We looked slow as shit. 

No one ever got separation.  

 

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1 hour ago, troph said:

 

6. arch does NOT have the touch pass in his repertoire. He needs it. 

 

Especially on those short 5-yard crossers

1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

sark is going to deploy hands he trusts for returns

and i agree with that

thats all fine , but tell that man to stay back in the end zone if he's already back there . he's not fast enough to return it otherwise 

50 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Niblett has hands? Wouldn’t know it after yesterday

We're back to being scared to field punts, son of a bitch 

Just now, hookem48 said:

We're back to being scared to field punts, son of a bitch 

Banks saw Boldens suicidal thoughts and said “do the exact opposite”

7 hours ago, troph said:

And yet that drive and yesterday were still very similar. 

What’s my take?

he’s young, inexperienced and the game hasn’t slowed down for him yet, especially against elite defenses that can scheme. 

honestly, not surprising to me at all. 

Their scheme was to sit back and let him have all day to throw short passes, amazing it worked so well.

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4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Banks saw Boldens suicidal thoughts and said “do the exact opposite”

Bolden scared you to death but he was damn good at it 

4 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

Their scheme was to sit back and let him have all day to throw short passes, amazing it worked so well.

Not really so amazing arch doesn’t have a short pass in his arsenal. 

2 hours ago, troph said:

Okay everyone needs to watch the condensed all passes video of arch floating around here and the film guy take on arch. 
 

1. arch mechanics were atrocious - film guy blames nerves. 

2. Guys were open and in some cases it was the bad throw or arch missed the read but arch did go through progressions.

3. Uga and tOSU have elite players and their D coaches know Sark, he has tendencies and his misdirection is predictable. That said he called some good ones too, but he needs to figure out how to help his guys against the elite defenses. There were plays where the defense knew exactly what Texas was doing. And their disguised coverages were elite. 

4. Caleb downs is a fucking boss man. Multiple plays where he alone was the difference maker. 

5. arch had some nice throws.

6. arch does NOT have the touch pass in his repertoire. He needs it. 

7. We know sark’s red zone offense is bad. Young QB makes it worse, expect lots of work on it the next 3 weeks.

I watched the video and I know he said that, but if you watch his 2024 highlights someone posted, Arch seemed to be perfectly fine with touch throws. I don't agree with #6.

Otherwise a solid breakdown. I'm not confident enough in my eyes or football knowledge to say definitively, but it sure seems like his 2024 highlight throwing motion was very different from yesterday. Hopefully just nerves but we'll see

2 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I watched the video and I know he said that, but if you watch his 2024 highlights someone posted, Arch seemed to be perfectly fine with touch throws. I don't agree with #6.

Otherwise a solid breakdown. I'm not confident enough in my eyes or football knowledge to say definitively, but it sure seems like his 2024 highlight throwing motion was very different from yesterday. Hopefully just nerves but we'll see

I watched the recent highlight video from last year posted here today somewhere and there was not a single touch pass. None. A forward option pitch to Silas bolden but not a single soft thrown screen or anything like that. 

but that highlight film showed great footwork and the film guy broke it down over the summer to the same effect.

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1 hour ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

I've calmed down since yesterday, but after that offensive performance I'm way more worried about Gainesville than I was previously. And after 2 blowout losses in 3 years, you can bet your ass Venables is probably going all in on Dallas this year. 

That team sucks shit through a straw. 

After yesterday why are we even talking noise saying other teams suck?? 
 

Like we just looked great. . . Smh maybe we should just sit this one out 

5 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

That team sucks shit through a straw. 

Again, weird things happen in Dallas 

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Take nothing for granted

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4 minutes ago, D3zii said:

After yesterday why are we even talking noise saying other teams suck?? 
 

Like we just looked great. . . Smh maybe we should just sit this one out 

Two top 3 teams played. One was going to lose. It was us. So what?  This is a down year in college football. I thought if arch was a stud that Texas might be head and shoulders above. Yesterday showed that might not be the case but there was nobody out there that looked any better than us. 

Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

Two top 3 teams played. One was going to lose. It was us. So what?  This is a down year in college football. I thought if arch was a stud that Texas might be head and shoulders above. Yesterday showed that might not be the case but there was nobody out there that looked any better than us. 

not today no GIF by Shalita Grant

i am guilty of dreaming of wormsign

everyone fell for the banana in the tailpipe

all of us

we all wanted and were willing to believe arch could be 4th and 5 vince in his first start with the keys

we all wanted the defense to play with capes and fly through the air at supersonic speed in defiance of gravity

jamaal-corn-4th-quarter rushing numbers, in every quarter

it was a nice dream

time to go to work

 

 

6 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Two top 3 teams played. One was going to lose. It was us. So what?  This is a down year in college football. I thought if arch was a stud that Texas might be head and shoulders above. Yesterday showed that might not be the case but there was nobody out there that looked any better than us. 

Yea buddy I’ll let you have that,

 

 like I said we’re sitting here like we’re not on a two game losing streak talking about who sucks and who we will beat. 

 

1 hour ago, troph said:

Not really so amazing arch doesn’t have a short pass in his arsenal. 

Well he damn well better find one 

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55 minutes ago, troph said:

not today no GIF by Shalita Grant

Sis you kiss Connelly’s numbers that OSU had an 18% win probability?  They gained 200 yards. They ran for 2.3 a pop. We doubled them on the ground and 1.75x overall. 
we committed some dumb or penalties and didn’t punch it in on 4th down. Did they deserve to win? Yes. Did they outplay us and look better than us run of the game?  No. 

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Sis you kiss Connelly’s numbers that OSU had an 18% win probability?  They gained 200 yards. They ran for 2.3 a pop. We doubled them on the ground and 1.75x overall. 
we committed some dumb or penalties and didn’t punch it in on 4th down. Did they deserve to win? Yes. Did they outplay us and look better than us run of the game?  No. 

I think Texas is going to be fine but arch played like ass. ND, Miami, So Carolina, FSU, UGA all looked or look better than us on offense this weekend.

I’m not trading our defense for anyone though I’ll give you that.

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47 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Yea buddy I’ll let you have that,

 

 like I said we’re sitting here like we’re not on a two game losing streak talking about who sucks and who we will beat. 

 

You don’t have to give me shit. I will tell you exactly who we will best and that’s everyone other than maybe Georgia on the schedule. You don’t have to believe me on that but if you don’t see it I can’t make you. 

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Just now, troph said:

I think Texas is going to be fine but arch played like ass. ND, Miami, So Carolina, FSU, UGA all looked or look better than us on offense this weekend.

Yes arch played like ass. I bet that’s his worst game of the year, but again, read the OP. It ain’t wrong. 

4 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Yes arch played like ass. I bet that’s his worst game of the year, but again, read the OP. It ain’t wrong. 

You said no one looked better than us. That’s just not true. Now I agree other than UGA Texas should be fine but yesterday’s offense and yesterday’s defense probably loses to UGA, possibly ND and Miami (still TBD), possibly South Carolina and probably FSU. No call on LSU or Clemson they both looked meh. We only scored 7 man. It was really really bad. And I think most of it gets fixed though I don’t think 4th and go for it will be fixed and I don’t think arch will develop a touch pass this season either.

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2 minutes ago, troph said:

You said no one looked better than us. That’s just not true. Now I agree other than UGA Texas should be fine but yesterday’s offense and yesterday’s defense probably loses to UGA, possibly ND and Miami (still TBD), possibly South Carolina and probably FSU. No call on LSU or Clemson they both looked meh. We only scored 7 man. It was really really bad. And I think most of it gets fixed though I don’t think 4th and go for it will be fixed and I don’t think arch will develop a touch pass this season either.

The offense that showed up yesterday could lose to Florida, OU, Georgia, Vanderbilt and A&M. 

Just now, ATXhorn17 said:

The offense that showed up yesterday could lose to Florida, OU, Georgia, Vanderbilt and A&M. 

True but I was trying to address specifically the comment that no one looked better this weekend. As for our schedule if all teams rotated through yesterday with that offense we in deep doo doo. But I’m with Wulaw, this offense will improve drastically over the next month. 

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1 minute ago, troph said:

You said no one looked better than us. That’s just not true. Now I agree other than UGA Texas should be fine but yesterday’s offense and yesterday’s defense probably loses to UGA, possibly ND and Miami (still TBD), possibly South Carolina and probably FSU. We only scored 7 man. It was really really bad. And o think most of it gets fixed though I don’t think 4th and go for it will be fixed and I don’t think arch will develop a touch pass this season either.

The no one looked better than us was in relation to teams that played yesterday. Didn’t watch today. I will be absolutely shocked if Domers offense is dynamic. I don’t doubt they will run for 250 or 300 and boat race aggy which I’m here for. 
we got pulled into a rock fight on offense by probably one of 3-5 teams in the country that could do that- and even still it was more about us than them. Arch was awful. We’ve never seen him awful before in limited time. The point is there was nothing structurally broken like overwhelmed offensive line, flaws with RB and receivers, etc that should cause concern. 
the sole point of concern is that out really talented QB was awful.  That happens. That’s not a giant red flag for the season. 

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3 minutes ago, ATXhorn17 said:

The offense that showed up yesterday could lose to Florida, OU, Georgia, Vanderbilt and A&M. 

Did you watch aggy or OU?  Both terrible. They lose somewhere between 5 and 7 games. 

5 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Did you watch aggy or OU?  Both terrible. They lose somewhere between 5 and 7 games. 

RRS is a toss up most years — Mateer is light years better than the QBs they wheeled out the last 2 years and Venables will be coaching for his job… A&M will be a 7 or 8 win team and highly motivated to win their ‘super bowl’. Good enough to beat us if we play like dog shit again. 

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4 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

sark is going to deploy hands he trusts for returns

and i agree with that

Littleton (the CB) was a super stud in HS returning kicks, IIRC.

Let him return kicks. 

sark is going to deploy hands he trusts for returns
and i agree with that

Fuck that noise on a kickoff. Most are going to the endzone and you can fair catch everyone and start at the 25. If he’s that worried about them fielding the kick, he needs to tell his dip shit special teams coach to make sure they don’t bring it out of the damn end zone.
Niblett has hands? Wouldn’t know it after yesterday

He did fair catch one punt. There was absolutely no one around, but he did catch it.
12 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

nobody out there that looked any better than us. 

john denver GIF

Sunshine on my shoulders, makes me happyyyyy 

He needs to learn to put touch on passes.  He makes it way too hard for receivers to catch short throws.  There is zero reason to throw every pass as hard as you can. 

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

 

Wow those are eerily similar stat lines 

15 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Banks saw Boldens suicidal thoughts and said “do the exact opposite”

Bolden made me hold my breath every time, but he came through. 

3 hours ago, Longboard Horn said:

 

 

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

 

 

Thank goodness we've all learned from this.

That if we double-down on the outsized and unrealistic early expectations on a single player, by comparing him to two of the greatest UT and college QBs of all time, we'll be just fine.

14 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

The no one looked better than us was in relation to teams that played yesterday. Didn’t watch today. I will be absolutely shocked if Domers offense is dynamic. I don’t doubt they will run for 250 or 300 and boat race aggy which I’m here for. 

tangential to hornshine....

 

last night:

 

rushing

miami 37/127/3.4

domer 27/94/3.5

 

passing

miami 20/31/205/6.6

domer 19/30/221/7.4

 

yards

miami 332

domer 314

 

If anyone's looking to pour cold water on their reasons for optimism, take a look at Scipio's breakdown of the offense on the $9.95 thread. Not great, Bob.

1 hour ago, Foosters said:

If anyone's looking to pour cold water on their reasons for optimism, take a look at Scipio's breakdown of the offense on the $9.95 thread. Not great, Bob.

Seconded. It’s a great read. I do think he downplays some of our rushing success though

On 8/31/2025 at 12:05 PM, The Ace of Aces said:

I do have one concern. We looked slow as shit. 

No one ever got separation.  

This is false. We had open receivers on most plays but Arch either didn’t see them, threw too late, or threw really inaccurately. Even his few highlight throws were delivered despite bad mechanics. It’s really unsettling how bad every aspect of his throwing motion was on every pass and what was with the lack of touch on short passes? Dude just can’t complete an open drag route?

18 hours ago, hookem48 said:

Their scheme was to sit back and let him have all day to throw short passes, amazing it worked so well.

It’s worked for quite awhile vs Texas. Take away the explosives and dare Texas to win running the ball. OSU ran a lot of what Georgia did to Texas. 

9 minutes ago, B00M said:

This is false. We had open receivers on most plays but Arch either didn’t see them, threw too late, or threw really inaccurately. Even his few highlight throws were delivered despite bad mechanics. It’s really unsettling how bad every aspect of his throwing motion was on every pass and what was with the lack of touch on short passes? Dude just can’t complete an open drag route?

OSU blanketed Texas WRs for the most part. When there were open guys, Arch generally missed them. 
 

Even the explosive plays Texas got were hard. Endries and Livingstone big plays were big time throws and good contested catches. Compare that to the big plays by OSU. Tate had Guilbeau beat by probably 5 yards. Under throw is the only reason there was contact. Good news is OSU easily has a top 5 secondary, so not many will be able to do that 

2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It’s worked for quite awhile vs Texas. Take away the explosives and dare Texas to win running the ball. OSU ran a lot of what Georgia did to Texas. 

Yep. I expect FL OU GA and KY to run similar schemes. The next 3 opponents don’t have the athleticism to execute it.  

1 minute ago, TexasGolf said:

Yep. I expect FL OU GA and KY to run similar schemes. The next 3 opponents don’t have the athleticism to execute it.  

Shitty Arkansas defense did it to Texas 

On 8/31/2025 at 9:59 AM, LateAughtsHorn said:

That would only make things worse. They'll run with the "soft" narrative. Remember Mack taking over questions for Simms? 

Agreed, that would make things worse. That's not what I had in mind. Nick Saben always seemed irritated and bordering on hostile when the media said something stupid. Sark just needs to change his tone a bit.

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