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2 minutes ago, troph said:

You didn’t get me and I’m not running in circles. 

We're running in circles. You are doing histrionics. You are literally in a thread about an assassinated guy trying to make it about your feels. Come on. 

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  • May he receive the same level of compassion he extended towards other victims of gun violence. 

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15 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Maybe dig like a single layer into that one and get back to us.

no no he's totally well informed he said so himself.

 

Anastasis complaining about someone else making a thread about them is just too much. Today sucks.

1 minute ago, troph said:

stop being an ass. I truly believe in my heart you are salvageable please stop you were so much better than this. Please for yourself and your kids man, do better, be better.

I think that a fair reading of our exchanges going back frankly more than a decade plus at this point will show where hearts shake out. Frankly though troph, since you brought it up, you should spend far more time worrying about your kids than mine man. It's not like we are running in totally different universes.  

1 minute ago, troph said:

Here’s my bottom line. The hate has to stop. Both sides. This guy didn’t deserve to die but gun violence needs to stop. The hateful rhetoric against other citizens needs to stop. We need to focus on why we are pitted against each other - the evangelical Christian and I have way more in common than either of us have in common with the corporatists and the billionaires. We need reform up and down across so many areas. We should not let them turn us against ourselves so that they can make our lives miserable while taking from society for their own personal benefit. It’s right there to see. I wish I wish somehow we could figure this crap out. 

See goddamnit you post some shit like this and I am 100% in agreement. 

1 hour ago, F250 said:

I took a one wipe shit today. Seriously, fiber is your friend. you need to do an additional wipe to validate but if it's all cleaned up in one wipe it's a single wipe dump. 

Eat plenty of plant based foods to keep your butthole clean. 

I eat a lot of fiber and this has not been my experience. Bidet for the win. 

43 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I don't care what his actual words are. But, yes, it obviously matters what his motives were. Somehow I doubt it was because he just had to stop "equal opportunity public square" debates. 

Don't be obtuse.

Were there a lot of oil cans about, perchance?

1 hour ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Nobody on either side justified the murder of children. The right didn’t say FAFO to the kids or their families.  

Um, Greg "It could have been worse" Abbott would like to have a word.

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

It's 2025.  Nothing stays in the news cycle very long.

Correct.  Give it a day and a half.

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2 hours ago, Da Fino said:

These fucking assholes had nothing to say when Sandy Hook and Uvalde happened. They also are unhelpful when help is needed to rebuild those schools, and I have the receipts to prove it. I have lost all faith in my peers. Left and right. Too many people are dug in on online politics. We are fucked. We cannot be trusted with guns. 

 

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did the shot come in from 4 o'clock ?

this was a pro 

 

9 minutes ago, Orale said:

I eat a lot of fiber and this has not been my experience. Bidet for the win. 

Is "Bidet" French for how you say "Manservant you hired from near the dumpsters behind the Hancock HEB to wipe your ass"?

38 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

You do not, literally, read well. 

I know this is not important, but can I ask where you were born. 

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Is "Bidet" French for how you say "Manservant you hired from near the dumpsters behind the Hancock HEB to wipe your ass"?

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4 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

I know this is not important, but can I ask where you were born. 

St Davids. You?

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

St Davids. You?

Same. I never would have guessed. 

Just now, Da Fino said:

Same. I never would have guessed. 

Not sure why you would have guessed, nor asked. Seems like some latent brain damage. 

11 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

did the shot come in from 4 o'clock ?

this was a pro 

 

It’s never a pro especially if it’s on camera 

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

Not sure why you would have guessed, nor asked. Seems like some latent brain damage. 

Wait what

2 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

It’s never a pro especially if it’s on camera 

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3 putt is a butler conspiracy lunatic.
 

It's ok to call this stuff out guys. 

33 minutes ago, UTPhil2006 said:

Correct.  Give it a day and a half.

No, it'll be longer than that, and somebody will probably try to keep it in the news for a bit.  When/if they catch the shooter, then it will start to die down.

Which takes me back to this - after watching the available videos a few times..

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Given that the tent/canopy he was sitting under was not very tall and where he was located, that was a somewhat of a flatter trajectory than I originally thought - don't get me wrong, there was definitely some elevation there (and the campus has some dips and elevations around there, plus the building), but not as much as I would have thought to get in under the tent.  And I definitely think they were shooting center mass and the elevation/angle of Kirk (and slight movement, there was some) meant it hit his neck. 

Edit: Just saw the video from the side view - he might have had a higher elevation than I thought.  If he shot from the side, a more difficult shot, but he was shooting at his torso.

The video of the shooter seems odd, because for somebody who pulled this off, it doesn't seem like they would have exposed themselves to potential discovery.  Unless he was sure of himself and had rehearsed it and got in place and fired in literal seconds and then took off.  The fact that they got away on a somewhat crowded campus meant they were probably moving while Kirk was still starting to fall over.

They better catch the guy.  There's no way somebody like that is going to have a list with only Charlie Kirk's name on it. 

I'm hating FB and all of the bullshit conspiracy theories about shadowy groups.  This dude had to be a lone wolf, because the more people involved, the more likely somebody panics or fucks up.

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2 hours ago, Gourmand said:

I know of one motherfucker kinda close to Kirk's orbit who has a pretty good motive to have him killed in the most public fashion possible. 

Ben Shapiro doesn't have the balls.

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

 

Yeah, let's give a shooting signal right where the bullet is going to hit us if it misses Charlie. That makes a lot of sense.

 

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

Watch it just be some nut. Those TV idiots don't know shit about fuck.

Nuts usually fuck up band paint a big target on their backs - look at the anti-abortion kook who assassinated the Minnesota politicians.

Whoever did this was not some Navy SEAL or Army Special Forces/Delta sniper, but somebody who did think things through quite a bit and who obviously rehearsed it in some way, because he did it one shot. Pulling this off on a crowded college campus is no easy thing, even if he didn't have Secret Service looking for him immediately.  This was far tougher than the dude who killed the UHC CEO.

I had to look at /r/conspiracy

  • Israel/Mossad did it because he had criticized them/was in danger of turning many on the right against Israel.
  • It was a distraction from the Epstein stuff - the birthday card was the final straw
  • The old man the police dragged away was a diversion to help the shooter escape.
  • Planes flying out of Provo with transponders turned off.

Thank you /r/conspiracy, never change.

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22 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Bro we have r/conspiracy at home it’s txputt and pimp

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never listened to him much until today. he was a race baiting pos, all to make a buck. he was the farthest thing from a 'christian'

if you supported him or claim to be a follower, you're a dumbass pos lulz 

 

congrats on leaving a legacy of hate, rot in hell

3 hours ago, C-Man said:


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does this really look like the type of guy who can hunt two different suspects at once?

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

does this really look like the type of guy who can hunt two different suspects at once?

 

 

 

Those are the eyes of a crazy person and he’s from Long Island. You never unleash crazy Long Islanders on the rest of the country.

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

This thread will probably get another round of degeneracy sanitation. 

Then a round of gaslighting 

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I was aware of Charlie Kirk and TPUSA as an organization although until today i was simply aware that it was part of America’s ambient noise of outrage and urgency. I did do a scroll through his recent statements, which returned the expected results of a stream of existential anger at the latest cause mixed with a fair amount of blatant falsehood. He was recently seized with the brutal murder of Iryna Zarutska by a multiple felon (an outrage I share) although it had mostly evolved into a proxy beef with Van Jones. A metaphor as Iryna’s innocence and tragedy receded and political feuding stormed to the foreground. 
 

America seems to be well into a phase similar to that of the 1970s, an unrelenting stream of violence that is only political in the sense that we have chosen hysterical fury as our baseline political state despite mostly living lives of comfort and plenty. I suspect that like the killer of the Minnesota lawmakers, whoever shot Kirk will be infuriated or politically agitated, but unable to coherently explain how murder would address the causes of the fury. 

Which is by design and it seems Kirk was in many ways an architect and show-runner.  America’s ambient noise is existential outrage. Many right-wing figures have come forward to talk of Kirk’s private kindness and happiness.  I actually don’t doubt that this was true. I don’t doubt that his two beautiful daughters have had a life full of joy and giggles and sweetness and now they will live with a gaping hole where daddy should be. And one day they will learn that many people they never knew were not at all sad to see their daddy’s life dribble away on the internet.  It’s hard to explain what this private tragedy will mean to them. 

It’s crushing that Kirk packed away his kindness and friendship into a private realm and chose to publicly create the ambient noise of existential fury. Of course he did not deserve this. But none of us do, none of us deserve to live this way.  Being publicly and privately kind is always a choice we have. 

3 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

lol literally took this picture today in KiheiIMG_6144.thumb.jpeg.1bc7b396ba0435dfa068f72020b79a6f.jpeg

 

Got damn if I cant leave the country I need to find a way to get my family to Hawaii. Loved it there, and though there are problems, the vibe is so much different and cooler than the mainland right now. 

15 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Got damn if I cant leave the country I need to find a way to get my family to Hawaii. Loved it there, and though there are problems, the vibe is so much different and cooler than the mainland right now. 

Completely different. I was able to spend the day reading and fishing at Kailua. People just randomly stopped walking on the beach to talk about fishing. Being a full continent’s worth of miles away from the mainland is a nice feature of being here. @Orale can probably speak more to that since he has been here for several years. Hawai’i is the last place I will ever live in America before heading away at the end of next year. If you have the ability to do so make this place your home for a little while at least. It has definitely been amazing to reconnect so much with nature and the ocean here.

13 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

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someone that's going to kill another person isn't going to try and get a gun legally that can be traced to him and he will have no problem getting one illegally just like anyone can easily get any illegal drug. My attempt at sarcasm didn't go over well, If the US could do a reasonably good job at keeping guns away from criminals I would be fine with banning guns but our experience with drugs is criminals have no problem getting endless amounts of illegal drugs and it would be the same for guns.

Now do Uvalde.
4 hours ago, Pimphand said:

FUCK EVERY LAST PIECE OF YOU ALL

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Charlie Kirk wasn’t assassinated. That asshole got shot. 

6 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

All I was saying is Charlie Kirk could have stayed home, been a good productive dad and practiced real Christian beliefs

5 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

And that’s the thing troph. These people don’t want change. They don’t want civility, except for whatever fucking transgressions they are carrying out.

Yeah, fuck that guy for the heinous transgression of..... touring college campuses and inviting people to literally talk with him.

Can't imagine something more uncivil than calmly challenging people on their views.

6 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Debasing myself? I'm just saying we don't know what the shooter's motive was. It is never as simple as the hot take political commentary. The attempted assassination of Trump wasn't (crazy guy who appears to have flipped a coin between Biden and Trump). The actual assassination of democratic politicians (crazy guy who had some strong right wing beliefs, but mostly his stated reasons made no sense) wasn't. And I'm guessing this one will not be either.

Pretty much agree, as I posted above. We saw a similar movie across much of the 1970s and into the early 80s. We’ve kind of memory holed two assassination attempts on Ford. 
 
Not political violence in the sense of targeting Franz Ferdinand, with a clear aim and rationale.  Pre-existing disturbance turbocharged into derangement by political rhetoric of existential threat and struggle. 

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7 hours ago, elfenix said:

there's 40% of the country whose brains are so broken they are not-so-silently celebrating this because they think it will help usher in the fascist rule they want. that same 40% are chastising everyone else pointing out this is exactly the country charlie advocated for. because, again, he thought it would usher in the fascist rule he wanted.

 

i won't name exactly who that might be on this board but you can read the DT thread and see who is negging what and get a good idea.

Yep.

4 hours ago, scottsins said:


Now do Uvalde.

They won't because it doesn't fit into their shitty world view. 

8 hours ago, Mileslong said:

MAGA morons all stirred up.

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It's always MAGA calling for violence and Dems calling for reconciliation and cooler heads. It's almost like all these people that claim to be Christian completely forget all the teachings of Jesus. Can we just send all these cunts to Florida and Bugs Bunny it?

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