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these conflicting reports of Kirk being alive with a pulse, compared to the video makes me think that:   1. the video is AI or:  2. the video is not AI, and they may be keeping him on life support until family arrives/organ donor situation or:  3. the video is not AI, and he somehow got incredibly lucky 

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Just now, Bill Brasky said:

these conflicting reports of Kirk being alive with a pulse, compared to the video makes me think that:   1. the video is AI or:  2. the video is not AI, and they may be keeping him on life support until family arrives/organ donor situation or:  3. the video is not AI, and he somehow got incredibly lucky 

he might have a pulse, but I doubt anything else in the brain is working

he's organ donor material now, they're just keeping the parts fresh until he can be carved up for spare parts

1 minute ago, Don Johnson said:

 

ok yeah that's fairly stupid, although obviously people who have no information at all and haven't seen any footage and are reacting live

24 minutes ago, sidis said:

jesus christ people. 

i have zero overlap with charlie kirk in my perspective and i would happily argue with him all day about his atrocious viewpoints...and i certainly wish he would have just stopped talking and gone away but you all have got to get a grip on your humanity.

regardless of right wing hypocrisy and general shitty-ness on things whether it be paul pelosi or the minnesota lawmakers, you are feeding into the spiraling disassociation from basic decency that our society faces.

nothing good will come of this and a couple of kids lost a dad today...regardless of how shitty a person you think he was (and i do) or how much comeuppance he deserved.

come on guys, this is bad, this is not how a civilized society functions. you guys are allowing yourselves to diminish your own humanity. what's the point if we lose that?

This 100%.  This is how you become what they say you are.

39 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

I'm not watching that video again. He was shot from far away and not close range? 

probably already been answered, but the audio sounded very much like a rifle, it has been reported it came from a parking garage, and that seemed to be the general direction the crowd turned to look when the sound of the shot was heard 

6 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Saw the video on Twitter, by accident.  My goodness, its horrific, no way he survives that.  Its ISIS level gore.

 

8 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

If that is a real video, that doesn't appear to be a survivable wound.  Fucking awful.  

 

2 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

these conflicting reports of Kirk being alive with a pulse, compared to the video makes me think that:   1. the video is AI or:  2. the video is not AI, and they may be keeping him on life support until family arrives/organ donor situation or:  3. the video is not AI, and he somehow got incredibly lucky 

clint malarchuk made a full recovery.  so it's possible I guess.

About the man they arrested, someone was on the radio saying, “they got the wrong guy.”

Apparently the man was friends with the guy that they arrested. (The older man)

2 minutes ago, twosheds said:

Provo will just get a good soaking

This is what I came here for, some good old fashion Shaggy dark comedy.    The comments about the site dying, well we're on page 4 and not a single joke about Kirk not being shot between the eyes, cause even a .22 wouldn't fit.  So yeah it's changed for sure.

5 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

probably already been answered, but the audio sounded very much like a rifle, it has been reported it came from a parking garage, and that seemed to be the general direction the crowd turned to look when the sound of the shot was heard 

Would have to be from 200 yards.

45 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

I'm not watching that video again. He was shot from far away and not close range? 

It seemed pretty deep based on seeing him get hit before you can hear the shot in the vid (which was taken pretty close to the target).

7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

he's organ donor material now, they're just keeping the parts fresh until he can be carved up for spare parts

Yep. The close up of the neck shot looks straight jugular. He's dead. 

I'll tell you what. 

When a guy is known for saying that a few kids being killed each day is worth the effort is keeping the second amendment, I might smirk if he himself dies by gun violence. 

If he's ok with kids being killed, he should be just fine with the way he himself died.

1 minute ago, Rip76 said:

About the man they arrested, someone was on the radio saying, “they got the wrong guy.”

Apparently the man was friends with the guy that they arrested. (The older man)

So who the fuck is the shooter?

Just now, Rip76 said:

About the man they arrested, someone was on the radio saying, “they got the wrong guy.”

Apparently the man was friends with the guy that they arrested. (The older man)

Yeah I just came here to post that. That the bald old dude being led away isn’t the shooter but not clear why he got arrested. 
 

I hate political violence. 
 

my feeling  is along the lines of what Fetterman wrote.

 

but yeah doesn’t appear as tho the shooter is in custody from a quick sweep of all the sites I usually haunt and all the networks. 

29 minutes ago, shakahorn said:

Why are the shooter's pants falling off?

Baitin’?   I don’t condone political violence just like I don’t condone kink shaming.

It appears like there will be a ton of video to sort through but like the Boston Bomber situation LE should be able to track and find the shooter(s) I would think, there are a ton of cameras. 

45 minutes ago, Don Johnson said:

MSNBC speculated it was a supporter shooting a gun off in celebration.  So could've been that.

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1 hour ago, Helobious said:

He’s an asshat but I hope he survives. Close up video was pretty graphic, direct shot to the neck and blood just poured out. If they got the bleeding stopped quick enough though it could be survivable.

You should definitely stop trying to prognosticate literally anything 

no reported suspect in custody yet, and the first guy turned out not to be the guy.  they either had a well thought out escape plan or just blended in with the chaos is where I'm at right now.    

Going to be interesting to learn the motive on this one (if we ever do). If it was from 200 yards, the shooter possessed the skills to target just about anyone. Even in the political podcast world, he's a pretty niche name.

The timing of what Kirk was saying with when he was shot makes me think that there wasn’t a lot of time spent for sound to travel and then the bullet to travel. No idea if 200 yards is short enough but it seemed like the shooter picked his moment.

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Just now, jkates said:

The evil is all the more egregious when you consider that Charlie Kirk has devoted his public life to building a platform rooted in good faith efforts at civil political discourse. More than almost anyone else in America, whether on the right or the left, he has sought to model reasoned debate in the public square.

His entire project has been centered on bridging the divide, engaging with those who disagree, and relying on the power of speech rather than the threat of violence to confront the issues that tear at our nation. To attack or undermine a man who has consistently chosen dialogue over destruction and persuasion over coercion is not simply a wrong against him personally. It is a rejection of the very principles that make a free society possible.

Crazy. Sad. 

Who are you quoting? And is this sarcasm?

12 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Trump confirmed 

This timeline is so fucking fucked up

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15 minutes ago, immamac said:

This thread is going to be moderated harshly. Post at your own risk. 

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

banned.

I get that this is a thankless task for you but I hope you reconsider. That was the first thing that made me laugh in the last couple of awful hours of shooting news.

So there’s just some rando shooter running around.

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Just now, Serak The Preparer said:

I get that this is a thankless task for you but I hope you reconsider. That was the first thing that made me laugh in the last couple of awful hours of shooting news.

that's the joke - He's not banned.

Part of me thinks this is a huge deal, but then I remember that every time something like this happens we forget like a week later.

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who watched the video knows he wasn't going to make it.

 

 

Had to be a sharp shooter...ive put up and taken down those cheap tents a hundred times at my kid's soccer games.... looked like he was sitting on a barstool, the amount of space from the bottom of tent to the head/neck area couldnt have been more than a few inches.  He didnt look to be standing, but sitting "up" and the angle that bullet had to travel had to be very flat.  Will be interesting to see the accident scene re-enactment.

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I hate he was killed but it’s sad people are taking this harder than kids getting gunned down at school. 

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

that's the joke - He's not banned.

Katie bar the door!

2 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Part of me thinks this is a huge deal, but then I remember that every time something like this happens we forget like a week later.

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14 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

The timing of what Kirk was saying with when he was shot makes me think that there wasn’t a lot of time spent for sound to travel and then the bullet to travel. No idea if 200 yards is short enough but it seemed like the shooter picked his moment.

Whatever words were coming out of his mouth at the moment had zero to do with the timing. Too many other more important moving parts in play. 

3 minutes ago, Zeus said:

 

 

 

 

 

Anyone who watched the video knows he wasn't going to make it.

 

 

Yeah for sure.

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