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Also, it's sort of counterintutitive, but groypers apparently like to sling the "fascist" accusation at those less fascist than themselves.  Like groypers are true conservatives, but those left of them but still right of center are the fascists.
This highlights what an incoherent, motley crew makes up a lot of "the right" these days.

There are two groups that use the word facist in daily language. Groypers and, for lack of a better term, leftists. Regardless, dude is alive and being waterboarded. We will find out what his motive was sooner or later.
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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Knew of Guardian's "bent."  Did not realize they were counterfactual.  Losing some respect there.  

Also, in case anyone wasn't aware, although it is the "Manchester Guardian," most of their US reporting comes from US reporters, so it doesn't always or even usually offer the "foreign" perspective that some non-US sources offer.  For example, the hashed-over piece here is by American Anna Betts, recently of the NYT.

Guardian has also become a huge content farm and draws from lots of partners that aren’t great on fact-checking. This was a big one to fuck up. 

29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I think it was more likely just a factory Mauser hunting rifle which are nice but not prohibitively expensive and you can find dealers everywhere.

https://www.mauser.com/en/MAUSER-18-Standard/80112498

Fair point.  I guess I was tangentially aware Mauser was still in business, but they don't get a lot of talk on gun sites that I see, anyway.

The usual reference is to a rebarrelled 98.  But that may be too nuanced even for law enforcement.

9 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The great thing is, you can actually just go back a page or two and read the whole exchange. 
 

I did not imply anything other than an evangelical widow with the keys to a youth oriented political apparatus just told y'all she was going to war. Disregard at your own peril while you pat yourself on the back for running out two absolutely horrible female candidates for president and wondering why you keep losing elections. 

No one's doubting her ability, persay. They're doubting Kirk's fanbase' ability or desire to follow a woman, any woman for any reason, considering all the misogynistic tradwife yadda yadda bullshit he pushed on them for years.

Today I learned that a few surly posters are responsible for the dems running two horrible female candidates.

2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

No one's doubting her ability, persay. They're doubting Kirk's fanbase' ability or desire to follow a woman, any woman for any reason, considering all the misogynistic tradwife yadda yadda bullshit he pushed on them for years.

Per se. 

14 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

I don't care about your politics.  Charlie's widow's speech was one for the ages.  Explaining to her 3 year-old daughter about where Daddy was.  I cannot even imagine.

 

Turning his death into a recruit message for turning point. Well I guess that is for the ages, all donating ages. 

1 hour ago, cmontexas said:

The 2028 election is 39 months away. That's about 160 weeks so probably 150-200 insane "this will change everything" events. People had even cooled on the Selena shirts by 1999

Do what?  I see those shirts in California 

 

 

also mid terms are less than a year away 

5 minutes ago, elguapo said:

Today I learned that a few surly posters are responsible for the dems running two horrible female candidates.

 As if there’s a female within the Democratic Party he’d call a “good” candidate.

10 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The great thing is, you can actually just go back a page or two and read the whole exchange. 
 

I did not imply anything other than an evangelical widow with the keys to a youth oriented political apparatus just told y'all she was going to war. Disregard at your own peril while you pat yourself on the back for running out two absolutely horrible female candidates for president and wondering why you keep losing elections. 

What is your point here? Other than some weird gloat. At least one poster acknowledged that she very well could hold the keys to elections and policy in the coming years, and that it speaks volumes about where we are as a country. None of us had anything to do with her husband getting killed and none of us have anything to do with strategy for the Democratic party who also didn't have anything to do with the shooting, and the shooter likely doesn't have anything to do with the party. What are we supposed to do here? 

19 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

an evangelical widow with the keys to a youth oriented political apparatus just told y'all she was going to war.

Against whom and why?

13 minutes ago, ConferenceRoom said:

What is your point here? Other than some weird gloat. At least one poster acknowledged that she very well could hold the keys to elections and policy in the coming years, and that it speaks volumes about where we are as a country. None of us had anything to do with her husband getting killed and none of us have anything to do with strategy for the Democratic party who also didn't have anything to do with the shooting, and the shooter likely doesn't have anything to do with the party. What are we supposed to do here? 

Seems to me Ana is happier than anyone here about Kirk's murder, as he thinks it gives him another opportunity to dunk on those he hates.

51 minutes ago, Herbie Hancock said:


Are proposing that he is just a figurative cock sucker and not a literal one?

No. He’s a literal cocksucker. What he’s saying is he didn’t suck dick to GET drugs. He used drugs while he was cheating on his wife and marriage vows by sucking a bunch of dick and spreading his Persian ass cheeks. But you know, he’s a warrior for Christ. 


Are proposing that he is just a figurative cock sucker and not a literal one?

I’m saying that if he did suck dicks, it was because he gave drugs/$ to the owners of said dicks.

NOT, as is often stated that he sucked dicks in order to receive drugs.
The great thing is, you can actually just go back a page or two and read the whole exchange. 
 
I did not imply anything other than an evangelical widow with the keys to a youth oriented political apparatus just told y'all she was going to war. Disregard at your own peril while you pat yourself on the back for running out two absolutely horrible female candidates for president and wondering why you keep losing elections. 

I’m not totally caught up in this thread, but did you ever reply to the 5+ specific queries about the statement by POTUS on F&F?
2 hours ago, cmontexas said:

The 2028 election is 39 months away. That's about 160 weeks so probably 150-200 insane "this will change everything" events. People had even cooled on the Selena shirts by 1999

Exactly. There's always some goober who thinks a particular event is singular with long reaching effects. After a weekend of college and NFL football distraction, this will quickly be yet another forgotten footnote. Those on the left (myself included) thought the effective overturn of Roe was going to seal the 2024 election for Dems. Womp womp. 

10 minutes ago, scottsins said:


I’m saying that if he did suck dicks, it was because he gave drugs/$ to the owners of said dicks.

NOT, as is often stated that he sucked dicks in order to receive drugs.

Every man gotta have a code.

Watching the video with the corpse and reading the transcript of the speech where people were exhorted to join TPUSA before going to church gives me lots of thoughts.

Widows and grieving parents need to be extended the utmost grace. I will say that I wish Mrs. Kirk and her family had some spiritual and emotional counselors around them instead of whatever gargoyles associated with her husband helped produce these things. 

5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Watching the video with the corpse and reading the transcript of the speech where people were exhorted to join TPUSA before going to church gives me lots of thoughts.

Widows and grieving parents need to be extended the utmost grace. I will say that I wish Mrs. Kirk and her family had some spiritual and emotional counselors around them instead of whatever gargoyles associated with her husband helped produce these things. 


Counterpoint:  those spiritual and emotional counselors around the Kirk family are gargoyles.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:


Counterpoint:  those spiritual and emotional counselors around the Kirk family are gargoyles.

 

 

I'd go with ghouls, but the point stands.

Have they shown any videos from the shooters entry into the area?

Or is that the footage that came out first from the stairwell area?

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2 hours ago, elguapo said:

The entire MAGA movement is dependent on failures in critical thinking.

Remember kids, all of this, and I mean ALL of it, is a direct result of Republicans using the culture war in an effort to secure votes because their true goal, tax cuts for the rich, isn't a winning campaign message. 

Everything else is pretext. This is about moving capital upward and keeping it there. The peasantry can fend for itself.

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34 minutes ago, Orale said:

There's always some goober who thinks a particular event is singular with long reaching effects.

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But seriously, who could’ve known what would have unfolded from there. 

Thanks Obama 

2 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

Have they shown any videos from the shooters entry into the area?

Or is that the footage that came out first from the stairwell area?

Just the photos and the grainy Ring footage through the neighborhood of him limping, if that was him and not just some random kid with a limp. I doubt they release anymore since he was caught. 

Here is some news that may or may not turn out to be incorrect (like everything so far) but it might give yall something new to argue about for the rest of today. 

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

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 Charlie Kirk’s alleged shooter Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender partner who was in the process of transitioning from a male to a female, a law enforcement source confirmed to The Post Saturday.

That individual, who has yet to be identified by the authorities, is now fully cooperating with the FBI on its investigation into the fatal shooting of the conservative activist, the source added. The relationship was first reported by Fox News’ Brooke Singman.

 

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5 minutes ago, hornbri said:

Here is some news that may or may not turn out to be incorrect (like everything so far) but it might give yall something new to argue about for the rest of today. 

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

 

 

 

This person seemed to know yesterday. I haven't clicked on the gamer links here but has anybody pointed this out?

 

 

2 hours ago, Covri said:

The reporter absolutely deserves blame for that horseshit and the guardian deserves some blame publishing it before the internal fact checkers verified any of it. Reporter wanted the scoop and it fit the guardians biases so they ran with it. I wonder how long they knew before they retracted it.

Has that reporter been fired? 

11 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If I recall correctly there actually was a drug addict poster who did in fact suck dick for drugs. Maybe it was a hand job, I'm not sure.

Probably many actually. One who admitted to it

7 minutes ago, Laguna said:

 

 

This person seemed to know yesterday. I haven't clicked on the gamer links here but has anybody pointed this out?

 

 

Y'all are really trying, I'll give you that.

Oh my God. I haven't kept up with this thread but did anyone post this yet?

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Their vice-chair is the brother of Imagine Dragons' lead singer 😂

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What a kick in the nuts for them. 

13 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

Those messages are going to be released soon. Anyone want to be what they show? I will put a lot of money that they show he was Antifa and hated Kirk.

Ay, there’s the rub…

 

11 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Oh my God. I haven't kept up with this thread but did anyone post this yet?

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Their vice-chair is the brother of Imagine Dragons' lead singer 😂

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What a kick in the nuts for them. 

See, some good is coming from this after all.

2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Do what?  I see those shirts in California 

 

 

also mid terms are less than a year away 

You will get your first taste of where this is going this November in Virginia. A big win by the GOP, especially by Sears indicates a conservative realignment is really happening. OTOH, if the GOP loses a bunch of +10-12 seats, it could be an early sign Trump’s schtick is starting to wear thin.

5 minutes ago, wong said:

Oh wow, what a shocking development. Who could have seen this coming?

You mean yet another attempt to demonize the left that will be shortly disproven, yet again? Ya, real shocker.

9 minutes ago, wong said:

Oh wow, what a shocking development. Who could have seen this coming?

Seen what coming exactly? I was told he was radicalized by his one semester of virtual college. Now it was living with a trans person? 

Fox yesterday reported he lived at home. 

I guess they have to take the focus off their anchor calling for the murder of every homeless American. 

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On 9/12/2025 at 8:37 AM, wong said:

I'm glad he wasn't trans. There's already enough rhetoric around the subject and that would have made it ten times worse.

 

27 minutes ago, wong said:

Oh wow, what a shocking development. Who could have seen this coming?

You people lie with such ease. Do you even know you're lying anymore, or is it just like breathing?

34 minutes ago, wong said:

Oh wow, what a shocking development. Who could have seen this coming?

Congrats, you can go back to hating trans people again....maybe this time it will work out for yall.

57 minutes ago, Laguna said:

 

 

This person seemed to know yesterday. I haven't clicked on the gamer links here but has anybody pointed this out?

 

 

Oh.. well if Pericles , self-professed alpha male of the week, says so...

Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to post this as a source? 

14 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Oh.. well if Pericles , self-professed alpha male of the week, says so...

Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to post this as a source? 

Rhetorical question right?

So he lived at home and had a transitioning roommate? If it’s the dad this just got real deep!

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