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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I assume that we all know that illegal aliens or undocumented are not eligible for most of those things.  The one exception being states that allow medicaid for undocumented persons.

And for it to work for the ACA subsidies, you have to file a tax return and pay taxes.

Exactly.  You wanna know how “illegalls” and “dirty poors” are getting subsidized healthcare?  They are coming into the Ben Taub/Parkland ERs for a 10k workup for their cold/flu once their symptoms get so bad cause they don’t have a $30 primary care option.  Until Trump/Abbott tell docs to throw dying people on the streets, each and everyone of us will pay for uninsured people’s healthcare, just in the stupidist and most expensive way possible.

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On 11/7/2025 at 3:50 PM, Chopper said:

 

 

That is fascinating and enraging. 

8 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Until he says he didn’t say it, well, he said it. It doesn’t matter that it’s not real. Make these fascist clowns have to answer questions about ridiculous stuff like this. 

It’s one account on Twitter of the tens of thousands of accounts that dabble in politics. This will never be seen by most people and is already forgotten. You would need it to be picked up by someone interviewing him in real time. 

4 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Exactly.  You wanna know how “illegalls” and “dirty poors” are getting subsidized healthcare?  They are coming into the Ben Taub/Parkland ERs for a 10k workup for their cold/flu once their symptoms get so bad cause they don’t have a $30 primary care option.  Until Trump/Abbott tell docs to throw dying people on the streets, each and everyone of us will pay for uninsured people’s healthcare, just in the stupidist and most expensive way possible.

So ACA recipients, like myself, are getting fucked early, but as fewer poors have healthcare, we're all gonna pay the hospital tax and everyone's premium is going up.

Fuck. The recucks are about to cave. Hopefully someone says something that pisses Donnie off so it stops talks.

Fuckin pussy dems better get more than this… but they won’t and they’ll get their shit pushed in so far yet again. 
 

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And before anybody pipes up on the source, Karl is national ABC correspondent in DC

If that happens, we’re done. We don’t have a viable opposition party.

Buckle like an f'ing belt

Win an election and immediately surrender getting nothing in return. No matter how low my expectations are somehow they disappoint me anyway.

 

Corporate Dems tucking tail again?

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MAGA: We pinky swear there'll be a vote on healthcare. 

Dems: Deal! 

2 minutes ago, Underdog said:

MAGA: We pinky swear there'll be a vote on healthcare. 

Dems: Deal! 

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Yeah let's have vote when we won't have any leverage and will lose. Brilliant. If they do this we will have suffered for nothing.

5 minutes ago, Underdog said:

MAGA: We pinky swear there'll be a vote on healthcare. 

Dems: Deal! 

They were terrified that they were winning elections and getting too popular. Can't have that.

What a fuckin joke if true.  Yea I am sure the pubs are gonna fully respect you and negotiate on the next issue in good faith after you cave for basically nothing.  How can you possibly negotiate this poorly when the public is blaming the other side more than you and you are currently “winning”?   I feel like I am taking crazy pills.

What did the Rs cave on? They promised to have a vote later? That's worth about what you paid for it. 

5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It’s weird because I’m seeing half the media Dems say this is a bad deal and Dems caved and the other half saying it’s the radical Rs who caved.

 

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Is it texags and newsmax saying r’s caged? 

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“Wait, you really thought we’d vote on this healthcare bill right here?”

If they do this, it will be one of the all time, if not THE all time greatest political blunders. 

Whether they get a vote or not, they’ve already lost. It will immediately become all that pain for this?  Not worth it. 

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49 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

If that happens, we’re done. We don’t have a viable opposition party.

Will Lyman VO: “They were done. They did not have a viable opposition party.”

If the Senate Dems cave with little in return but the promise of a vote, the sentiment on blame for the shutdown will absolutely 100% shift to Democrats and Republicans will yell it from the rooftops. Surely they realize this...

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In a way, I almost hate the Democratic Party more than maga at this point. I just can't wrap my head around the continued abject fecklessness despite the intellectual edge over the opposition. Somehow we've elected a bunch of politicians that have no fucking guile or will to power whatsoever. 

1 minute ago, Hookah Horns said:

In a way, I almost hate the Democratic Party more than maga at this point.

Same

Only the Democratic Party would take away from last Tuesday's win that they should cave on this less than a week later.

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17 minutes ago, pacman said:

If the Senate Dems cave with little in return but the promise of a vote, the sentiment on blame for the shutdown will absolutely 100% shift to Democrats and Republicans will yell it from the rooftops. Surely they realize this...

Nah. Democrats will be unhappy but normies have already made their minds up and the damage is done politically from the shutdown. It would have been great to get the subsidies restored but honestly them expiring hurts Republicans a lot worse politically than it hurts Democrats. 
We can always do this again in February.

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4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

them expiring hurts Republicans a lot worse politically than it hurts Democrats

This was my first thought as well. 

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Schumer should be kneecapped if he does this.

He should, but not because of this. 

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3 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

I think the Senate Ds have played this situation about as strategically as it can be played, but Schumer needs to be bounced for a very simple reason: he’s not a good leader, and his caucus can’t trust him.

Klobuchar, Warner and Tammy Baldwin would all be better choices at this moment. 

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