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#1902
10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I think the Senate Ds have played this situation about as strategically as it can be played, but Schumer needs to be bounced for a very simple reason: he’s not a good leader, and his caucus can’t trust him.

Klobuchar, Warner and Tammy Baldwin would all be better choices at this moment. 

so… he does need to be kneecapped.

#1903
36 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Nah. Democrats will be unhappy but normies have already made their minds up and the damage is done politically from the shutdown. It would have been great to get the subsidies restored but honestly them expiring hurts Republicans a lot worse politically than it hurts Democrats. 
We can always do this again in February.

If they pass the House version, it is only good until the 21st. Wouldn't they be back at it in 12 days, much earlier than February? If they pass a new version with a later date, would that force Johnson's hand to open the House and risk the final signature for the Epstein files.

#1904

Any D who votes for this with what sounds like is on the table needs to be told loudly that they will face full fury in the next primary and little if any support if they happen to survive...it's how the Republicans do shit.   Take a page, you listless bastards.

#1905
"More than enough" Senate Democratic Caucus members to pass shutdown deal led by Shaheen, King and Hassan, source familiar with deal says - CR through Jan. 30 - ACA bill vote on bill of Dems' choosing in December - Minibus has RIF reversals and "protections" against them in future

 

#1907

PLEASE call today (Sunday) and tell them not to CAVE on the shut down.  Democrats demand they stay firm.

Sen. Baldwin 202-224-5663

Sen. Coons 202-224-5042

Sen. Hassan 202-224-3324

Sen. Ossify 202-224-3521

Sen. Peters 202-224-6221

 

#1908

Bunch of fucking losers, the worst part is the guilty parties responsible are going to retire instead of facing a primary. 

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#1909
wow im so happy they did what they are legally required to do

Fucking disgusting, any Democrat that votes for this will need to face the wrath of the party. And this all so their precious fucking holiday plans don't face any issues. A BUNCH OF FUCKING LOSERS

#1910

The bill also includes provisions for banning abortions and trans healthcare. Just vile shit. 

#1912

Ah, I see they do have a new date. So, now the House has to pass it despite Johnson already cancelling the week's session?

The legislation does not need to include provisions for back pay since that is already protected by law?

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#1913
3 minutes ago, pacman said:

The legislation does not need to include provisions for back pay since that is already protected by law?

Correct

#1915

Tell me how to see this whole shutdown as anything other than Republicans torturing people and Democrats caving in to make it stop...

 

#1916

Tim Kaine is a loser

“Um well there aren’t even any Senate Dem Press releases saying they support the deal” Sen Tim Kaine: Hold my beer

 

#1919

We are at war against fascist authoritarian takeover of the country and dismantling of democracy. If democrat politicians dont even have the stomach for a prolonged shutdown, how will they ever have the stomach for the violence required to take the country back?

#1920
Just now, Clintonaldo said:

We have been hating the wrong side the whole time. 

Republicans are the father raping his daughters and democrats are the mother looking the other way while it happens. 

#1921
It’s been the case for a few days now that enough Dems are willing to reopen the govt but wanted to get past post-election frenzyDem senator told me at the time that the elex would give progressives/hardliners the narrative for 2-3 days & then things would “come back to Earth” https://t.co/Rr3ZQ2TQjS


 

#1924
48 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:
"More than enough" Senate Democratic Caucus members to pass shutdown deal led by Shaheen, King and Hassan, source familiar with deal says - CR through Jan. 30 - ACA bill vote on bill of Dems' choosing in December - Minibus has RIF reversals and "protections" against them in future

 

Ha. Big ol' bag of fail.

Classic.

#1925
Just now, pacman said:

Pressure's on Mike Johnson now...

Adelita Grijalva, ready your pen!

Please, that shit will get torpedo’d

#1927
3 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:
It’s been the case for a few days now that enough Dems are willing to reopen the govt but wanted to get past post-election frenzyDem senator told me at the time that the elex would give progressives/hardliners the narrative for 2-3 days & then things would “come back to Earth” https://t.co/Rr3ZQ2TQjS


 

Moron moderate democrats think they won on Tuesday.

No, trump lost.

The people still don't give a shit about you. As soon as the suffering from trump ends they'll forget about it and go right back to whatever populist windbag promises the moon again. Even if it's trump's kid or some other evil republican bastard. 

That's where we are. No matter if democrats win everything like in 2008 the republicans will go right back to making a loud bitching noise daily then promising to fix everything,  even things that aren't broken. Stupid Americans will buy into it and elect them again because democrats will be weak and quiet.  That's best case scenario. 

#1929
3 hours ago, immamac said:

This better not fucking happen. 

You know it will. The centrists are cowards. Full blown moronic cowards that blinked first for no reason. 

#1930

Dumb, weak motherfuckers.  The only way this makes any sense is if the Dems know the Epstein shit is gonna actually fuck shit up so opening back up to get Grijalva in office will be worth it.  I don’t buy that for a minute, far more likely is the establishment democrats completely validating all criticism against them and further empowering Trumpism.  The stupid, weak, corrupt mothfuckers.

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#1931
you can see why fascism is so popular when the other option is The Loser Party That Loves Losing

 

#1934
34 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:

We have been hating the wrong side the whole time. 

No. You can hate evil. Weakness and incompetence are not necessarily evil, and are due the sort of pity that, in the extreme, ranges from disgust to ridicule. It is fair to view these actions as complicity, which has been veiled. That is despicable evil but that does not describe the party in its entirety. The Republican Party, otoh, is all in on evil.

th/dr hate the individuals involved. Don’t hate on Crockett.

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#1937
26 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I can't believe I have to vote for these people.

You don’t. You have to vote against the Republicans. Once you get over that, things make a lot more sense.

#1938
6 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

So ACA recipients, like myself, are getting fucked early, but as fewer poors have healthcare, we're all gonna pay the hospital tax and everyone's premium is going up.

Yep

 

and the private payer risk pool is smaller and sicker. 

#1939
Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

You don’t. You have to vote against the Republicans. Once you get over that, things make a lot more sense.

No. I have to vote for these idiots. Don't try to make it better with your words.

#1940

I’d say it’s unfuckingbelievable but it’s the democrats under Schumer, so it’s actually par for the course. Fuck these traitors, all of them.

#1941

So the democrats got the republicans to agree to hold a vote on something they are just going to vote down? Do I have that correct?

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#1946
8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

No. I have to vote for these idiots. Don't try to make it better with your words.

I’m not trying to make anything better. Our system works a lot better if voters are guided by voting against elected officials who don’t *earn* their personal vote. Stop looking for things to vote for and be proud to vote against. And in the unlikely event you have the opportunity to vote *for* someone (which has only been the case twice in my entire life), realize that’s a rare and wonderful thing, like a double rainbow or a threesome you don’t wind up regretting. 

#1947
1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m not trying to make anything better. Our system works a lot better if voters are guided by voting against elected officials who don’t *earn* their personal vote. Stop looking for things to vote for and be proud to vote against. And in the unlikely event you have the opportunity to vote *for* someone (which has only been the case twice in my entire life), realize that’s a rare and wonderful thing, like a double rainbow or a threesome you don’t wind up regretting. 

Shit like this is why people stop voting. 

#1948
1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

or a threesome you don’t wind up regretting. 

I love threesomes. I'd love to be a part of one someday. -Michael Scott, -Wayne Gretzky. 

#1950
2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m not trying to make anything better. Our system works a lot better if voters are guided by voting against elected officials who don’t *earn* their personal vote. Stop looking for things to vote for and be proud to vote against. And in the unlikely event you have the opportunity to vote *for* someone (which has only been the case twice in my entire life), realize that’s a rare and wonderful thing, like a double rainbow or a threesome you don’t wind up regretting. 

You are a fucking idiot and you should stop stealing air.

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