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Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?

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#1254
54 minutes ago, bullzak said:

I bet Louisiana leads every state in per capita great players. Maybe by a lot. 

Haven't seen the stats in a minute, but Louisiana and the VA Beach area used to be a close 1-2.  Can't use all of VA because it fucks up the numbers, but that Hampton/Norfolk/Newport News area is thick with talent. 

#1256
3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

SMU is a historically sub-.500 team. Aside from Doak Walker and the Pony Express years their post-war history is pretty bleak and that was reflected in the interest conferences showed them. I think they’re doing interesting and positive things now but it’s just not true that Tech hasn’t been a much better and relevant program for the past 75 years or so. 

Yeah Baylor was really crushing it before RG3 came along. So much history there.

All four are comparable programs. Two of us have made the CFP. We'll see if Tech can get there.

#1257
33 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah Baylor was really crushing it before RG3 came along. So much history there.

All four are comparable programs. Two of us have made the CFP. We'll see if Tech can get there.

There’s a lot of money in HP, Lashlee is a solid coach, and you’re in a competitively open P5 conference. Lots of ingredients to maybe win a lot over the long haul. 
 

The statement was history though.  SMU and Rice were the worst SWC programs by a longshot which is precisely why an illegal scheme to pay and recruit was set up in the governor’s office. 
 

Baylor was a perfectly competent SWC program for the better part of 20 years under Grant Teaff— they won conference championships and went to bowl games when that was a real metric of a good season. That’s why they got a Big XII invite where they struggled.  While they struggled in a very tough conference, SMU was at the bottom of really weak ones. 
 

The landscape is upside down and now typically futile programs like Indiana and SMU can compete. 

#1258

Lashlee isn’t worth that kind of money.  SMU is not the big fan base in Dallas, it’s dominated by Texas, Tech, and A&M.  They are in a market full of folks from elsewhere who maintain their ties to Michigan or OU or wherever they’re from, in fact as their students come from all over a lot of their students maintain their home allegiance they grew up with.  They are so small in tv draw they have small corporate support, and until they can gill a stadium the size of Allen hs they’ll be small time.  Thus their support is from a fairly small number of benefactors, so all the dollars for lashlee take away bucks from nil or the program. 
 

same issue for Baylor, TCU, Tulane, etc that just can’t compete with schools that have massive fan support from folks that never went to school there. 

#1259
Kentucky beats Auburn 10-3, and the Hugh Freeze era may be over soon. Auburn is 1-5 in the SEC with four one-score losses, but the Tigers have scored just six touchdowns in those five losses.
The fact that Hugh Freeze is still Auburn’s coach is mind-boggling.
Hugh Freeze walks off the field at Jordan-Hare to boos and “Fire Hugh” chants.#Auburn falls 10-3 to Kentucky.#WarEagle | @CBS_42
If Auburn cares about its football program, Hugh Freeze will not be the head coach at sundown tomorrow.

 

#1260
11 hours ago, Underdog said:

Is Steve Garvey one of the Fathers? 

Somewhere in a box, I've got an old "Steve Garvey is not my Padre" T shirt.

#1262
On 10/31/2025 at 12:05 PM, 'stache said:

Is Kinne still going to move up this cycle or is TXST’s struggles this season going to keep him there a while longer?

I keep joking/not joking with friends that if someone gets desperate and hires him away now I'd be a lot less upset than I would have been about a month ago... think he might be in San Marcos until he fires his DC Dexter Mccoil into the sun and figures out how to make the offense he likes to run work against teams that actually play sound defense...

#1263

Joey McGuire's buyout is only $10 million at Tech. Thats cheap if they dont win the Big 12 and make a deep run. Would be mutually beneficial for all involved if they could take Riley off SCs hands after the season and send McGuire to Baylor. 

#1265
2 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

So Auburn should open today. Will the man in the yellow hat write a big enough check to make them relevant again?

The way Auburn hires and fires corches, they've gotta have deep pockets.

Have we identified their main benefactors yet, or is it still anonymous? Obviously, they wanna keep it that way.

#1266
Just now, DFW Horn said:

The way Auburn hires and fires corches, they've gotta have deep pockets.

Have we identified their main benefactors yet, or is it still anonymous? Obviously, they wanna keep it that way.

The YellaWood guy is a billionaire. 
 

Tim Cook is an alumnus, but has never shown much interest in football or athletics. 

#1267
1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The YellaWood guy is a billionaire. 
 

Tim Cook is an alumnus, but has never shown much interest in football or athletics. 

Jimmy Rane or Mark Callender?

AU has reached a point of diminishing returns with their lack of patience, IMO. I guess Orgeron and Jimbo may be viable options for them at this point.

#1268

Just looked, governor is an Auburn grad, this is the time to fire a coach if you're Auburn.  Bama grad in office - you ain't getting any help. 

#1269
Just now, DFW Horn said:

Jimmy Rane or Mark Callender?

AU has reached a point of diminishing returns with their lack of patience, IMO. I guess Orgeron and Jimbo may be viable options for them at this point.

Jimmy Rane. 
 

I think Oeaux at Auburn is pretty interesting. 

#1270

Here is my list of movers this coaching carosuel...

Jason Candle, Toledo - He has topped out in Toledo and has proven to be able to build a sustainable program and develop NFL talent.

Eric Morris, UNT - Offensive-driven Air Raid coach with a heavy dose of run. An added benefit would be that he could bring his own super-talented FR QB and RB combo with him.

Jon Sumrall, Tulane - Been rumored to be tied to a variety of jobs already.. 
 
Jason Eck, New Mexico - Has UNM bowl eligible and is know as a OL guy that is probably a real option for many of the potential mid level Midwest jobs
#1271
7 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Eric Morris, UNT - Offensive-driven Air Raid coach with a heavy dose of run. An added benefit would be that he could bring his own super-talented FR QB and RB combo with him.

Not a hot take, but Arkansas would be a great spot for him. He can take his QB, Mestemaker, with him.

#1272

Hale McGranahan: South Carolina moving on from Mike Shula

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Mike Shula is done calling plays for South Carolina, according to Tony Morrell of TheBigSpur. The news comes less than 24 hours after the 30-14 loss at Ole Miss. The Gamecocks traveled to Oxford with one of the worst offenses in the country, averaging 302.1 yards per game and 4.86 yards per play. They gained 230 yards and averaged 3.7 yards per play at Vaught-Hemingway Stadium. And neither were single-game lows in 2025.

South Carolina gained more than 350 yards on offense just once during Shula's tenure as offensive coordinator, and that was in the Citrus Bowl loss to Illinois last December. This season, the Gamecocks have a 3-6 record (1-6 SEC). Shula was originally hired to Shane Beamer's staff as an analyst in March of 2024, when former offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains brought Shula on board just in time for the start of spring practice.

By the start of the 2024 season, Shula was named senior offensive assistant. He worked closely with quarterback LaNorris Sellers throughout the season. Shula was on the sidelines with Sellers during games while Loggains called plays from the press box. Shula took over as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach after Loggains was named head coach at Appalachian State. Beamer announced the promotion on Dec. 17, while the team was preparing to play in the upcoming bowl game.

Before arriving to South Carolina, Shula's only other experience at the college level was as the head coach at Alabama, where he worked from 2003-06. Prior to 2024, Shula was an offensive assistant for the Buffalo Bills (2022-23). The son of legendary coach Don Shula, Mike played quarterback at Alabama before a brief playing career in the NFL. The younger Shula worked for several NFL organizations, including Tampa Bay, Miami, Chicago, Jacksonville, Carolina, New York (Giants) and Denver.

 

#1273

 

BREAKING: The standing Sunday 1:30pm tee time held by Head Coach Hugh Freeze at the Auburn University Club has been CANCELLED.We’ve attached screenshots of the tee sheet change. A shakeup on the plains is imminent.

 

 

#1274

Auburn has presumably parted ways with head coach Hugh Freeze less than 24 hours after the 10-3 loss to Kentucky.DC DJ Durkin is expected to serve as interim HC.A formal announcement from AD John Cohen is expected later today.
#1275
56 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

Here is my list of movers this coaching carosuel...

Jason Candle, Toledo - He has topped out in Toledo and has proven to be able to build a sustainable program and develop NFL talent.

Eric Morris, UNT - Offensive-driven Air Raid coach with a heavy dose of run. An added benefit would be that he could bring his own super-talented FR QB and RB combo with him.

 

Jon Sumrall, Tulane - Been rumored to be tied to a variety of jobs already.. 
 
Jason Eck, New Mexico - Has UNM bowl eligible and is know as a OL guy that is probably a real option for many of the potential mid level Midwest jobs

Those guys will all be fired in 3 years 

#1276
25 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

BREAKING: The standing Sunday 1:30pm tee time held by Head Coach Hugh Freeze at the Auburn University Club has been CANCELLED.We’ve attached screenshots of the tee sheet change. A shakeup on the plains is imminent.

 

 

What up-and-coming HC candidate is gonna wanna be inside the Auburn fishbowl where busybodies track your every move, including tee times?

#1277
29 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

BREAKING: The standing Sunday 1:30pm tee time held by Head Coach Hugh Freeze at the Auburn University Club has been CANCELLED.We’ve attached screenshots of the tee sheet change. A shakeup on the plains is imminent.

 

 

CFB fans are weird a awesome.

 

#1278
31 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

BREAKING: The standing Sunday 1:30pm tee time held by Head Coach Hugh Freeze at the Auburn University Club has been CANCELLED.We’ve attached screenshots of the tee sheet change. A shakeup on the plains is imminent.

 

 

We would have found out far sooner when FUPM was shitcanned if we had this kind of research …..

#1279
Bless whatever algorithm decided to make Hugh Freeze’s top image result a picture of him golfing

 

#1281
10 minutes ago, El Squared said:

We would have found out far sooner when FUPM was shitcanned if we had this kind of research …..

Not sure anyone could have pulled Sally's baking schedule out of her. 

#1282
1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Auburn is going to bigly disappoint fans

FTFY

It's pretty much a way of life for Auburn fans, at least that's what my friend who is an Auburn fan keeps claiming. 

#1283
44 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

BREAKING: The standing Sunday 1:30pm tee time held by Head Coach Hugh Freeze at the Auburn University Club has been CANCELLED.We’ve attached screenshots of the tee sheet change. A shakeup on the plains is imminent.

 

 

Auburn has just set a new standard on fanboard-em. 
Tracking tee times >> flight tracker now.

Day and night shift take notes. Don’t want to get caught sleeping with Sark and the NFL …..

#1284
Sources tell @On3sports that a team meeting will be called at Auburn later today. https://t.co/er4peHwn2u https://t.co/5ThqcMVJUv

He’s toast.

#1285
8 minutes ago, The Dog said:
Bless whatever algorithm decided to make Hugh Freeze’s top image result a picture of him golfing

 

Boo hoo, the poor guy's buyout is "only" $22M. How will he ever make ends meet?

#1286
1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

Here is my list of movers this coaching carosuel...

Jason Candle, Toledo - He has topped out in Toledo and has proven to be able to build a sustainable program and develop NFL talent.

Eric Morris, UNT - Offensive-driven Air Raid coach with a heavy dose of run. An added benefit would be that he could bring his own super-talented FR QB and RB combo with him.

 

Jon Sumrall, Tulane - Been rumored to be tied to a variety of jobs already.. 
 
Jason Eck, New Mexico - Has UNM bowl eligible and is know as a OL guy that is probably a real option for many of the potential mid level Midwest jobs

The anointing of Sumerall just feels full of SEC SEC SEC fluff. It's like the southern coaches fraternity really likes him and it gets immense helium and he becomes the flavor of the month. I'm not convinced he's not gonna be the next fired coach at the next school. 

Of all the successful coaches in the SEC, only Kirby is a real southerner. I don't know,  Sumerall feels forced. 

As a Albuquerque native,  I like Eck. If he took the Wisconsin job he could be better than Fickell but that won't be too hard. 

#1288
On 10/30/2025 at 1:19 PM, Nuge said:

Have we thrown out Jimbo back to LSU?  He's rested and ready.

I don't understand the Ed O to Oregon State conjecture.  I can't imagine a more perverse culture fit.

I thought he was wildly popular at USC when he took over after Kiffin was left on the runway. That was Kiffin, wasn't it?

#1289
16 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

I feel old.  I used to listen to Summerall’s grandfather announce football games.

Fuck...spelling is hard. 

#1290
Auburn University fires head coach Hugh Freeze https://bit.ly/47CR4Zq

 

#1291

I was told last week if AU hadn’t beaten Arky that Freeze was out Sunday.

Last night’s pathetic display of offense earned the firing.

It’s been as brutal as brutal can get.

Georgia Bulldogs Football GIF by SB Nation

#1292
46 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Auburn is going to bigly disappoint fans with their eventual hire. 

Auburn fans, of which I am one, are used to gut-wrenching & soul-crushing disappointment.

#1294
15 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I was told last week if AU hadn’t beaten Arky that Freeze was out Sunday.

Last night’s pathetic display of offense earned the firing.

It’s been as brutal as brutal can get.

Georgia Bulldogs Football GIF by SB Nation

The poster above you should have posted that gif

#1295
54 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Auburn has just set a new standard on fanboard-em. 
Tracking tee times >> flight tracker now.

Day and night shift take notes. Don’t want to get caught sleeping with Sark and the NFL …..

This is fantastic. 

#1297
3 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

So Auburn should open today. Will the man in the yellow hat write a big enough check to make them relevant again?

Well Awwwbrrrnnn is definitely like a Circus...

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#1299
23 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

Lashlee isn’t worth that kind of money.  SMU is not the big fan base in Dallas, it’s dominated by Texas, Tech, and A&M.  They are in a market full of folks from elsewhere who maintain their ties to Michigan or OU or wherever they’re from, in fact as their students come from all over a lot of their students maintain their home allegiance they grew up with.  They are so small in tv draw they have small corporate support, and until they can gill a stadium the size of Allen hs they’ll be small time.  Thus their support is from a fairly small number of benefactors, so all the dollars for lashlee take away bucks from nil or the program. 
 

same issue for Baylor, TCU, Tulane, etc that just can’t compete with schools that have massive fan support from folks that never went to school there. 

Most of what you say is true, but remember that prior to the introduction of the NFL in the Metroplex and the influence of television, Houston, and New Orleans teams such as SMU, TCU, Tulane and even Rice often drew a good number of fans to their stadiums.

The NFL drew eyes and interest away and the influence of the networks has made it tougher and tougher for smaller individual schools to compete if they weren't part of a strong brand or had niche' such as Notre Dame.

I would also add you are correct about those schools drawing students from a wide area, but I don't completely agree that those students stay loyal to the schools where they grew up.  

TCU for example has a number of So Cal kids and many of those stay after school.  The challenge though is they are first generation Frogs who are early in the professional careers with new families. Talking with friends involved in fund raising for TCU and a challenge is there are fewer and fewer "TCU families" in large part because many alums can't afford to send their kids to TCU because of cost of tuition.   I will defer to the SMU folks to their SMU specific thoughts . 

#1300

I wouldn't be surprised if there are several washed coaches who get drawn back into coaching due to all the openings this year.  My guess is that all that type of hires will be duds, with many of them not even appearing to be fully engaged.  Despite that,  the retreads will get fat buyouts three years for now..

21 minutes ago, Alien Octopus said:

Surprised Gary  Patterson  not being discussed for jobs.

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why? He’s washed and doesn’t like this era 

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