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Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?

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58 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

How long until a player sues about the NIL cap the schools agreed upon  because we were told if something didn't happen schools wouldn't be able to afford their athletic programs and the plaintiff's attorney simply would use the buyouts list as proof that schools can come up with the money.

The schools don't pay NIL.  WTF are you talking about?

I mean, I guess they COULD pay it, but it certainly isn't limited to the school themselves.  Never has been.

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44 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

There really isn't such thing as a "buyout."  It's paying the balance owed on the employment contract.  There's two flavors of it, balance owed less compensation earned as mitigation, and "guaranteed," meaning balance owed unconditionally.

I suppose you could have a contract that somehow eliminates the legal requirement to pay the money agreed to for the term agreed to, but that would be dangerously close to an illusory contract:  I hire you for X years at Y/year, but I don't have to pay Y if I fire you, so not really.

Fully guaranteed contracts are relatively new.  Coaches and schools were willing to forgo that in the past because it was understood both sides might want to make a change midstream. Mack’s last contract had a 3.5 million buyout that went down every year he remained at Texas. 
 

https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/texas-approves-brown-contract-extension

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14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Fully guaranteed contracts are relatively new.  Coaches and schools were willing to forgo that in the past because it was understood both sides might want to make a change midstream. Mack’s last contract had a 3.5 million buyout that went down every year he remained at Texas. 
 

https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/texas-approves-brown-contract-extension

Yeah, that's the way you do it, agree to some sum less than the annual compensation, but still substantial.  Still could be challenged as improper liquidated damages.

But Mack was in a somewhat uniquely unleveraged situation there.  A new hire at a helmet school would probably demand something more "normal," if not fully guaranteed.

 

4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, that's the way you do it, agree to some sum less than the annual compensation, but still substantial.  Still could be challenged as improper liquidated damages.

But Mack was in a somewhat uniquely unleveraged situation there.  A new hire at a helmet school would probably demand something more "normal," if not fully guaranteed.

 

Almost no coaches got fully guaranteed contracts till the 2010s. And for that matter, almost no NFL players get fully guaranteed contracts. You put an early termination clause in that is agreed to. That’s why so many players try to front-load. 

Another bullet point on the Bud Elliott doesn’t know shit slide show: He said Norvell would get fired on Sunday or today. “They don’t like the optics of Norvell moving into the new football facility that is opening this week. So they have to fire him on Sunday or Monday.”

Sure enough, the FSU AD comes out today and says Norvell’s future won’t be addressed until after the season.

I think they’re praying he can find a soft landing and they don’t have to pay the full buy out or he pulls a Napier 2024 miracle and rips off 5 straight wins.

I think LSU is just screwed. T-Bob kind of hinted at it on Barstool this morning. With their NIL investments they have to pay out the string. 

7 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Another bullet point on the Bud Elliott doesn’t know shit slide show: He said Norvell would get fired on Sunday or today. “They don’t like the optics of Norvell moving into the new football facility that is opening this week. So they have to fire him on Sunday or Monday.”

 

 "Moving in" optics? Is Norvell signing a year lease? I quit that show week 1 of this year. Too bro-y/meatheaded for my taste. And the B1G propagandizing got insufferable. 

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12 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

All kidding aside, and there is zero chance we would, but I wouldn't be oppossed to giving Mora another look.  He's turning around a tragically bad UConn team.  We had our 3 best seasons under him this century.  Won't happen, but...

you actually filled seats when he was there, but those do-overs have never worked.  See Rick Neuheisel.  Mack Brown.  Brady Hoke. 

16 hours ago, Duane Moore said:


 

After ESPN bumped their game at halftime by the tire fire offense VS the 2 retarded Stoops bros defense, to have Elko leave for a program known for institutional pedophilia will break so many fragile Aggies.   
 

Now if the universe wants to align and help out, Aggies drop 1 before us, we win out and the conference ends the season with 7 teams at 10-2.   Playoffs take 6 and leave Aggies out.   That would just about do it for their program, they might quit their beloved SEC and try to find a new home where people don’t yet know how fucking weird they are at their core.  

4 minutes ago, Jimbob said:

...they might quit their beloved SEC and try to find a new home where people don’t yet know how fucking weird they are at their core.  

r/Pac12 - This is it. The Pac-12.

2 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

r/Pac12 - This is it. The Pac-12.

I see three losses for them on a regular basis.  Better than 8-4 so they totally should make the move.

14 hours ago, TXpride said:

Tony Annese. 138-21 record, 2 JUCO titles, 3 D2 titles. Seems like he can coach. Not exactly an "up and comer" though. But neither was Cignetti.

Someone should absolutely give that guy a look, seven undefeated seasons, ten 1 loss seasons.  He’s only lost more than 4 games once in 37 years, his very first season where he went 4-5.   I would say the guy can coach.

Interim head coach Billy Gonzales announced on Monday that quarterbacks coach Ryan O’Hara will call offensive plays for the Florida Gators moving forward after Billy Napier’s departure. Russ Callaway will remain the offensive coordinator.

“Coach Callaway is going to be the OC, but I’m going to let Coach O’Hara call the plays,” Gonzales said during Monday’s press conference. “I think the most important piece to that is there’s a rhythm piece between him and DJ. I think it’s really important that the quarterback is an extension of his teacher. In this particular setting, for the next five games, I think that’s going to be critical. DJ has got a great relationship with both.”

“I see the same things,” Gonzales said. “Obviously, we want to be more productive. We want to be more explosive. That’s going to be something that we’ll talk about as a staff, offensively, to see what we can do.”

Gonzales was asked about potential wrinkles and changes within the offense.

“I think you’ll see some things that are a little different,” Gonzales said. “I think one thing that I want to hopefully continue to assert in the offense is I think we’ve got a lot of playmakers, and I’d like to be able to spread it out a little bit hopefully and get some of those players involved.”

Gonzales mentioned tweaking some of the plays to put his guys in the ‘best possible position and play to their strengths.”

“We’ve got great players here. If we can get some guys the ball in space and let them work, I think you’ll see a Florida offense that’s ready to roll,” Gonzales added.”

 

Edit: not outright dunking on Sunbelt Billy, but a little bit of shade to be  inferred.  

Its not rocket surgery, Napier was spread way too thin trying to be the playcaller. 

12 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I think they’re praying he can find a soft landing and they don’t have to pay the full buy out or he pulls a Napier 2024 miracle and rips off 5 straight wins.

 

Have you seen the schedule? It shouldn’t be a miracle to win out. 

Penn State to me is the most intriguing opening. They fired Franklin at a time where he is potentially in demand by P4 schools so their buyout will be greatly reduced if multiple schools get involved there. It will also be the first time it has opened in modern history without scandal holding them back. I think they could get serious looks from Elko and Kelly which is better than any school not named Florida this year. 

As for Florida their biggest advantage to Lane over Ole Miss is the ability to do a 10 year deal. For those unaware Mississippi schools can only offer 4 year deals so Lane has a rolling 6 year contract with the athletic foundation. Surely their boosters won't be dumb enough to personally guarantee that deal completely separate from the school. 

On 10/21/2025 at 8:03 AM, Jimbob said:

Someone should absolutely give that guy a look, seven undefeated seasons, ten 1 loss seasons.  He’s only lost more than 4 games once in 37 years, his very first season where he went 4-5.   I would say the guy can coach.

Not that I disagree, but I have heard that Ferris is one of the only D2 programs that fully funds the 38 scholarships allowed in D2.   Colorado Mines, for instance, funds only about 30.  A lot of schools are in the teens.

On 10/21/2025 at 7:03 AM, Jimbob said:

Someone should absolutely give that guy a look, seven undefeated seasons, ten 1 loss seasons.  He’s only lost more than 4 games once in 37 years, his very first season where he went 4-5.   I would say the guy can coach.

Not in the good ol boy club where everyone knows everyone.  Guys like that do break thru like Leipold and Deboer because coaching travels but AD's are scared to death that it would be too big for them and every blue blood fan base would melt if they hired a JC coach.

On 10/21/2025 at 9:16 AM, Gatorubet said:

 

 the quarterback is an extension of his teacher.

 

Not hetting enough love.

Milwee? Sarkisian?

1 hour ago, Butch Had Not said:

Not in the good ol boy club where everyone knows everyone.  Guys like that do break thru like Leipold and Deboer because coaching travels but AD's are scared to death that it would be too big for them and every blue blood fan base would melt if they hired a JC coach.

You're seeing it now, Florida isn't going to have an appetite to hire a lower-tier coach at this point because they nicknamed their last guy "Sun Belt Billy".  Even so, he had the Saban association working for him, or he may not have gotten the look in the first place.

Met him charlotte a few years ago when he was on a recruiting trip. He was cool and chatted for a bit, sucks to see 

17 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Man Norvell is frazzled and beat down.

 

Thanks for your post of video... needed a better emoji than FAFO to give yah but closest fit.  

Crazy what's happened at FSU since Bama game... 

On 10/21/2025 at 9:16 AM, Gatorubet said:

Interim head coach Billy Gonzales announced on Monday that quarterbacks coach Ryan O’Hara will call offensive plays for the Florida Gators moving forward after Billy Napier’s departure. Russ Callaway will remain the offensive coordinator.

“Coach Callaway is going to be the OC, but I’m going to let Coach O’Hara call the plays,” Gonzales said during Monday’s press conference. “I think the most important piece to that is there’s a rhythm piece between him and DJ. I think it’s really important that the quarterback is an extension of his teacher. In this particular setting, for the next five games, I think that’s going to be critical. DJ has got a great relationship with both.”

“I see the same things,” Gonzales said. “Obviously, we want to be more productive. We want to be more explosive. That’s going to be something that we’ll talk about as a staff, offensively, to see what we can do.”

Gonzales was asked about potential wrinkles and changes within the offense.

“I think you’ll see some things that are a little different,” Gonzales said. “I think one thing that I want to hopefully continue to assert in the offense is I think we’ve got a lot of playmakers, and I’d like to be able to spread it out a little bit hopefully and get some of those players involved.”

Gonzales mentioned tweaking some of the plays to put his guys in the ‘best possible position and play to their strengths.”

“We’ve got great players here. If we can get some guys the ball in space and let them work, I think you’ll see a Florida offense that’s ready to roll,” Gonzales added.”

 

Edit: not outright dunking on Sunbelt Billy, but a little bit of shade to be  inferred.  

 

Yah left the following out...

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"Ryan O'Hara will call plays from the booth and Steve Spurrier Jr. is going to have a more active role on the field with the quarterbacks" .  Spurrier Jr.'s role is an elevated one from his standing as an offensive analyst with the team.

Elevating the role of Spurrier Jr. Gonzales explained, was done so with Lagway in mind.

"First and foremost, Coach Spurrier has been with us all season long, working with quarterbacks and with Coach O'Hara," said Gonzales, who also praised Spurrier Jr.'s offensive knowledge from being around his father, the legendary Steve Spurrier. 

"This allows us to move Coach O'Hara upstairs and have somebody who's been communicating with DJ all season long."

https://footballscoop.com/2025/10/22/florida-getting-steve-spurrier-jr-more-involved-in-gators-offense

He’s contemplating the name change to “Salt Water”, and considering legal action against the makers of those damn back window stickers!

10 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

LOL what it did it say? It's all been removed by moderator

It's a dumb rumor - 13.5 million for.......? 

Not sure if Buddy Martin has any real sources anymore. He is/was a real journalist and was the go-to for the feel good books about each coach back in the day. Pretty sure I have books by him on Spurrier and Meyer. At this point, he's in his 80s and I'm not sure he really is connected. That could easily just be the number that Sexton's people leaked out there.

So Tebow is the answer, eh?

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3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

So Tebow is the answer, eh?

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Oh God yes please. He and Charlie Strong might be 1a and 1b, the reader may decide the order, on the list of dumbest people ever associated with Florida football. 

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

LOL what it did it say? It's all been removed by moderator

It's a dumb rumor - 13.5 million for.......? 

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18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

They’re really going to hire white James Franklin 

 

Like...he's not even having a great year. WTF?

2 minutes ago, Drew said:

Like...he's not even having a great year. WTF?

He “gets” Penn state though 

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He “gets” Penn state though 

Hiring Rhule doesn't seem like much of an upgrade.

Penn State is f'd. Rhule sucks and Joe Brady next in line for an NFL HC job.

I wonder if the talk about private equity firms getting involved deeply into the Big Ten will have an impact on coaching contracts going forward. Do these firms start to lean on schools and make contracts a lot more incentive based? These firms are in the business of making money and increasing equity so I don’t see how giving a guy $50,000,000 to not coach works towards their goals.

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

They’re really going to hire white James Franklin 

 

Kalen DeBoer at 11%?  What the fuck is Kalshi?  Those odds are regarded.

On 10/22/2025 at 10:39 PM, Sbbruin said:

Man Norvell is frazzled and beat down.

I don't recall seeing a HC who looked this despondent at a presser. Firing him would be merciful at this point.

Buyout life

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

He “gets” Penn state though 

So he's familiar with rhythmic slapping?

6 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

I don't recall seeing a HC who looked this despondent at a presser.

 

3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

 

But, Strong would've made a good position coach. Maybe a coordinator.

1 minute ago, DFW Horn said:

But, Strong would've made a good position coach. Maybe a coordinator.

Those words make me see red every time.

On 10/20/2025 at 4:08 PM, Iceman said:

The numbers shouldn't bother any of us.  If the revenue wasn't there, they wouldn't do it.

and if it isn't, fuck em.

I think some grads here would like millions of dollars to go towards funding non-football shit. 

I understand that for Tech fans it doesn't matter. 

29 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think some grads here would like millions of dollars to go towards funding non-football shit. 

I understand that for Tech fans it doesn't matter. 

Yeah, I wouldn't mind if Malachowsky gave some cash to Florida football, but would rather it go to super computers.

41 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I think some grads here would like millions of dollars to go towards funding non-football shit. 

I understand that for Tech fans it doesn't matter. 

The assumption is always that the money would still go to academic pursuits. We know that ain't true. 
 

 

 

and fuck off Alpo boy. 

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