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Could this be the craziest coaching carousel of all time?

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Heupel???
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Josh Heupel sent a scathing rejection to Penn State on Monday, suggesting the Big Ten program had “low expectations” in comparison to Tennessee.
“I wouldn’t want low expectations,” Heupel said of PSU, via On3. “That’s part of why I want to be here. We’ll win big.”
 

“Wouldn’t want low expectations”?

Man you just got boatraced by Vandy on your own field. The only thing winning big is your diabetes medication budget, tubby.
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26 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

 

Are they speaking directly to America or are they clarifying Denton is indeed in America (it is, I checked)?  Either way, strangely worded announcement.

3 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

Are they speaking directly to America or are they clarifying Denton is indeed in America (it is, I checked)?  Either way, strangely worded announcement.

Reads like an announcement to America? Agree that it's worded funny. But, UNT, right?

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51 minutes ago, ITHorn said:

UNT could have done better. Brown is a terrible HC. 

I woulda got Graham Harrel on the cheap

30 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

 

I don’t know why, but the “Welcome home” in so many announcement posts bothers me when the guy has no previous ties to the program or area. 

Feels like that phrase should be reserved for guys returning to their alma mater, home state/area, or a school that they at least had some sort of previous connection to. 

Sounds dumb to say welcome home to a guy that has no connection to a place and will leave the moment he has some success and someone offers him more money. 

6 hours ago, Crockett said:

Liam doesn't know anything he isn't reading on the internet.

The church does not pay for athletics (and does not need to). BYU athletics are self-funded (and in the black always) and coaches salaries are mostly/completely paid for with donor money. However, the Board of Trustees for BYU includes top leaders of the church. Any major deals and offers -- like a Kalani raise and extension and same for his staff -- require their approval. 

As anyone who tried to get season tickets for the AJ Dybantsa year for BYU hoops knows, there are a LOT of donors with big money behind BYU, most of it is behind the scenes. It's not just a few people like some schools. 

Fwiw... (csb?)

To my knowledge, BYU also wants there to be several/many donors involved in any one specific endeavor.  I know this from friends/colleagues involved w/ BYU and a handful of anecdotes shared with me.  When my son played lacrosse at Texas, they played both Utah and BYU in the same year.  Utah was in its final year before becoming a D1 team, and proceeded to demolish Texas.   BYU did, too. 

When talking to some of the BYU parents at the game, I reflected on Utah becoming a D1 team.  One BYU dad said, "Yes.  One guy is donating enough to endow the program into perpetuity.  He came to us first and the AD declined.  Did not want a single donor with that much influence over the program.  So he went to Utah and they said yes."

Now, that could be more of BYU hating on Utah, but I had heard similar stories at other times.

/csb?

4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

so like whos gonna coach psu next year?

This is nearing aggy-baseball-coaching-search level of futility.

1 hour ago, Not a cat said:

Big donors are like wives, you need multiple.

See Oklahoma State

3 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Heupel???

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Josh Heupel sent a scathing rejection to Penn State on Monday, suggesting the Big Ten program had “low expectations” in comparison to Tennessee.

“I wouldn’t want low expectations,” Heupel said of PSU, via On3. “That’s part of why I want to be here. We’ll win big.”

 

lol, the way they describe it makes it seem like Heupel sat down and wrote a dickish email to the PSU AD after interviewing. In fact, he’s just offering some quotes to the UT faithful to sooth hurt feelings. He didn’t write Pat Kraft and say “I’ll pass cause your expectations are too low.” 
 

I can’t say enough how dumb sports journalism is, especially the closer you get to school-focused outlets like the On3 stringer. 

4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

so like whos gonna coach psu next year?

Lotta fans wanted the interim tag taken off of Terry Smith, but that may just be idiot students. Dicking around is the worst thing they could do as it’s going to cost them a class worth of recruits.

3 hours ago, chad.ihrig said:

Man you just got boatraced by Vandy on your own field. The only thing winning big is your diabetes medication budget, tubby.

Hard to believe that dude dropped 63 on us.

3 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

Fwiw... (csb?)

To my knowledge, BYU also wants there to be several/many donors involved in any one specific endeavor.  I know this from friends/colleagues involved w/ BYU and a handful of anecdotes shared with me.  When my son played lacrosse at Texas, they played both Utah and BYU in the same year.  Utah was in its final year before becoming a D1 team, and proceeded to demolish Texas.   BYU did, too. 

When talking to some of the BYU parents at the game, I reflected on Utah becoming a D1 team.  One BYU dad said, "Yes.  One guy is donating enough to endow the program into perpetuity.  He came to us first and the AD declined.  Did not want a single donor with that much influence over the program.  So he went to Utah and they said yes."

Now, that could be more of BYU hating on Utah, but I had heard similar stories at other times.

/csb?

Would not surprise me if true, especially because we are not desperate for donors.

1 hour ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Lotta fans wanted the interim tag taken off of Terry Smith, but that may just be idiot students. Dicking around is the worst thing they could do as it’s going to cost them a class worth of recruits.

PSU fucking this entire thing up is well deserved. They are lucky to have a program to fuck up at this point. 

5 hours ago, Parliament said:

John Gruden

I like the line of thinking. PSU needs a splash hire, with them missing out on all high profile college coaches.

Grabbing Gruden, or some NFL rando. With the right wordsmithing, it could be *spun into a "high profile, splash hire".

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9 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

Reads like an announcement to America? Agree that it's worded funny. But, UNT, right?

It's a play on their Conference.

I feel like this move kills the momentum Morris had brought to the program.  We'll see.

They’ll hire someone from the NFL and say it was the plan all along and why it took so long.

1 hour ago, Iceman said:

It's a play on their Conference.

I feel like this move kills the momentum Morris had brought to the program.  We'll see.

Hell, I thought UNT was still in C-USA. What do I know?

If Tulane doesn’t hire Coach O what are we even doing anymore?

23 minutes ago, 'stache said:

If Tulane doesn’t hire Coach O what are we even doing anymore?

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15 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

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Can you imagine the shenanigans he and Lane could get into in South Louisiana? It would be an awesome comedy series for Amazon Prime. Like the coaches side of Blue Mountain State. 

Aggie's gonna pretend it's good for them he's leaving...after the best offensive season they've had since Manziel, and maybe including that.

Kentucky and KSU quietly have/had the most muted and quick coaching changes of the cycle, and PSU still doesn't have a head coach

Penn State still has no coach

 

 

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Penn State still has no coach

 

 

Schedule Penn St and USF.

On 12/1/2025 at 7:26 PM, 'stache said:

Yeah, that’s creepy af. Imagine Notre Dame asking the Vatican to help pay for football players.

There's precedent, all the way back to the 1500s. Only back then they called them Crusaders. 

          Kasper Gutman: "What do you know, sir, about the Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, later known as the Knights of Rhodes and other things?"

          Sam Spade: "Crusaders or something, weren't they?"

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So did PSU pass on Stein and Hartline or the other way around? Is the AD a bigger mess that LSU etc behind closed doors? Is still a top tier program by just about any metric. Maybe they really are looking at NFL people?

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

So did PSU pass on Stein and Hartline or the other way around? Is the AD a bigger mess that LSU etc behind closed doors? Is still a top tier program by just about any metric. Maybe they really are looking at NFL people?

This is a really good decision for Hartline - get some experience and if he's successful, move up to a P4 tier and then he's seasoned enough when Ohio State finally opens. 

Hartline also basically bleeds scarlet and gray - I doubt he'd seriously consider Ohio State's 2nd biggest rival.  This is different from Stein going to Kentucky, he grew up a UK fan and the family had season tickets, he just wasn't offered by Joker Phillips. 

Matt Millen to the white courtesy phone

11 minutes ago, 'stache said:

So did PSU pass on Stein and Hartline or the other way around? Is the AD a bigger mess that LSU etc behind closed doors? Is still a top tier program by just about any metric. Maybe they really are looking at NFL people?

I'm guessing firing Franklin a year after the playoffs was too much even for greedy ass college coaches.  There's no way they are still waiting to announce someone on signing day.

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

They’ll hire someone from the NFL and say it was the plan all along and why it took so long.

That guy who was just fired from the Giants is available.

Apparently Franklin did a nice troll on PSU today at the Letter of Intent event with a box of Crumbl cookie on a table. Kind of funny.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, The Dog said:

This today from The Mercury, Manhattan's daily fishwrap:

"Klein, 36, is currently the offensive coordinator at Texas A&M, where he has been the past two seasons. Prior to that he was the offensive coordinator under Klieman. He’s a K-State icon, having led the Wildcats to a Big 12 title as quarterback in 201."

 

I love exploring history's backstories--you learn something new every day, like the fact that Klein's hiring in 201 A.D. ranks right up there with Lucius Annius Fabianus and Marcus Nonius Arrius Mucianus serving as consuls in the Roman Empire, while in the Hellenistic world, Philip V of Macedon was defeated by a coalition of Greek states at the Battle of Chios after his failed siege of the city. Heavy-duty stuff indeed. 

2 minutes ago, Royale with cheese said:

This today from The Mercury, Manhattan's daily fishwrap:

"Klein, 36, is currently the offensive coordinator at Texas A&M, where he has been the past two seasons. Prior to that he was the offensive coordinator under Klieman. He’s a K-State icon, having led the Wildcats to a Big 12 title as quarterback in 201."

 

I love exploring history's backstories--you learn something new every day, like the fact that Klein's hiring in 201 A.D. ranks right up there with Lucius Annius Fabianus and Marcus Nonius Arrius Mucianus serving as consuls in the Roman Empire, while in the Hellenistic world, Philip V of Macedon was defeated by a coalition of Greek states at the Battle of Chios after his failed siege of the city. Heavy-duty stuff indeed. 

Are you not entertained??!  

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3 minutes ago, Royale with cheese said:

I love exploring history's backstories--you learn something new every day, like the fact that Klein's hiring in 201 A.D. ranks right up there with Lucius Annius Fabianus and Marcus Nonius Arrius Mucianus serving as consuls in the Roman Empire, while in the Hellenistic world, Philip V of Macedon was defeated by a coalition of Greek states at the Battle of Chios after his failed siege of the city. Heavy-duty stuff indeed. 

@Armybrat saw Klein play in person.

12 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I'm guessing firing Franklin a year after the playoffs was too much even for greedy ass college coaches.  There's no way they are still waiting to announce someone on signing day.

Hey Herbstreit, you douchewad, there's an actual cesspool in State College.  Fired a coach after making the playoffs and are getting lapped in the carousel by Kentucky and USF. 

Go call them out. 

Well I’m glad we didn’t hire Klein only to have his alma mater open up a week later. His name was still high on the list of prospects early last week, I wonder if this just came together or if it was known earlier?

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58 is awful young for retirement, does Klieman have health problems?

29 minutes ago, 'stache said:

So did PSU pass on Stein and Hartline or the other way around? Is the AD a bigger mess that LSU etc behind closed doors? Is still a top tier program by just about any metric. Maybe they really are looking at NFL people?

From what I’ve heard, which is probably bullshit, is that Stein interviewed but Kraft didn’t feel he was ready for the job. This would have been while he thought he had Sitake on the hook. Declined to offer Stein & kept Chesney waiting and lost him while trying to reel in Sitake. Sitake was the second coach offered after the first offer was turned down after his school extended him. Some think it was Elko, some Rhule.

5 minutes ago, TOR said:

58 is awful young for retirement, does Klieman have health problems?

Yeah, it's called OtherSchoolsNILitis.

So PSU is either going to go retread, NFL, or they are going to have to massively overpay (even more than normal) for a meh results coach. 

 

What happens if PSU offers Elko to be the highest paid coach in the B10? Its not like he has fully signed his new aggy contract... right... 

Aggie's gonna pretend it's good for them he's leaving...after the best offensive season they've had since Manziel, and maybe including that.

Are you including the year Aggy dominated the European Front in WWII!

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