December 4Dec 4 42 minutes ago, TejasPedro said: When Penn State is finished dickin’ around with all this Mickey Mouse bullshit and they want to get serious about hiring a legit ball coach, they need to pick up the phone and give this guy a call ASAFP! That coach must be 90 years old by now. I think they were running that pos commercial the year Vince got gipped out of the Heisman. From the first viewing, my feeling:
December 4Dec 4 3 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said: I wonder what he means by: Terry = Paterno Acknowledgement Smith wore the Joe409 patch on his jacket a couple games ago in a nod to GodPa. Is he saying that Smith’s support of Paterno is now a problem? I can’t answer that as I live on the western side of the Alleghenies. There’s a segment of the fan base that will only accept someone with ties to Paterno as the next coach, and why they never fully accepted O’Brien or Franklin. It had nothing to do with either of their legitimate failings, only their perceived lack of reverence to Paterno. Those people also assume that anyone who ever had any ties to Paterno is off limits in the eyes of the BOT, and that’s the only reason Terry isn’t getting a look. My assumption why Terry isn’t getting a legitimate look is because, until he was thrust into the role, he seemingly didn’t want to be a head coach. His comments and lack of drive up the ladder seem to indicate that as well. I don’t know the man, you do. Maybe he did want to be DC and Franklin privately turned him down. He seems like a good man, but it also seemed like until a couple months ago he had no interest in being a DC or HC.
December 4Dec 4 17 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said: One of my favorite artifacts of that era is a grumpy LA Times column bemoaning that USC hired Carroll instead of Franchione. https://rolltide.com/news/2006/12/8/Statement_from_Mal_Moore_Concerning_the_Search_for_a_Head_Coach Seems luck is a huge factor in coaching hires. Edited December 4Dec 4 by JBJ
December 4Dec 4 7 minutes ago, heso said: There’s a segment of the fan base that will only accept someone with ties to Paterno as the next coach Would they accept someone who was molested by his defensive coordinator?
December 4Dec 4 Wow, looks like we got a hell of a bargain on Morris. Terms are $3.8M per and $100K raises each year. Don't see what his buyout would be for us if he doesn't work out or if there are any incentives. By contrast, word was that Arky wanted Morris first and are paying Silverfield $6.7M per. Is it possible we found a coach who'se not only a good fit but also is willing to take less compensation to allocate towards player compensation? Maybe he's willing to take less at a place that should be easier to win than at Arky which would be a smart move? I'm really looking forward to next season. I think bowl eligibility should be possible if not likely in year 1, especially if he brings his QB and RB. https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/football/new-hogs-coach-ryan-silverfield-contract-details-including-buyout Edited December 4Dec 4 by 'stache
December 4Dec 4 7 minutes ago, JBJ said: https://rolltide.com/news/2006/12/8/Statement_from_Mal_Moore_Concerning_the_Search_for_a_Head_Coach Seems luck is a huge factor in coaching hires. If so I'm submitting this as the new Gata anthem Edited December 4Dec 4 by locodos
December 4Dec 4 6 minutes ago, JBJ said: https://rolltide.com/news/2006/12/8/Statement_from_Mal_Moore_Concerning_the_Search_for_a_Head_Coach Seems luck is a huge factor in coaching hires. Here’s the Fran to USC column. Seems it was first in The Sporting News. TL;DR: Carroll is the next Paul Hackett, look at ‘Bama— they landed Fran but could have had Butch Davis if they wanted! USC should have pursued Fran or at least Mike Riley. Quote Tom Dienhart column from the Sporting News, January 1, 2001 Carroll's hiring is another mistake for troubled USC Dear Mike Garrett: I 'think you made a mistake hiring Pete Carroll as USC's next coach. As Trojans athletics director, you needed to hit a home run with this hire. This looks more like a scratch single. I know. Carroll might end up being grand, but the perception in the here and now is what matters for a program that's on the wane. And that perception isn't good. Some might compare Carroll to Paul Hackett, the coach he replaces. That might not be fair, but you can't blame them. Carroll is an NFL guy. He's a defensive tactician who hasn't coached in college since 1083, when he was an assistant at Pacific. Hackett was an offensive expert who hadn't coached in college since 1092 when he landed the USC job before the 1998 season. At least Hackett's most recent college stint at the time was as head coach at Pittsburgh. Unlike Hackett, Carroll proved he can be a successful head coach, leading the New England Patriots to a pair of winning seasons and playoff berths. He's also a super-enthusiastic guy. But Carroll doesn't know college football. Oh, he's saying the fight things. You know, stuff like, "If you can understand the process in the NFL ... in the draft process, it's all about watching players in college, I don't consider myself unfamiliar with the college game at all." I'm sure Carroll, like Hackett, knows his X's and O's. The problem is the college game Carroll doesn't know. It was the same one Hackett had trouble grasping. I'm talking about things like academic issues, recruiting / and dealing with alumni. Is Caroll up for whispering sweet nothings into the ears of know-it-all 18-year-olds? Is Carroll up for spending more time speaking at booster events than breaking down film? Is Carroll up for fans demanding to know why USC can't dominate the Pac-10 anymore? Carroll needs a positive start and would help himself by retaining defensive line coach Ed Orgeron and running backs coach Kennedy Pola, a pair of Hackett assistants who red-line their intensity meters. I know, Mike. You say, "Average Joe doesn't know football." Believe what you want, but Average Joe has reason to doubt your hiring skills and thinks you are part of the problem. Hackett was 19-18 at USC, and his last team finished last in the Pac-10, the first t/me that ever has happened. He was your man after you mishandled the termination of John Robinson after the 1997 season. Your job might be riding on Carroll's performance. Your non-communicative ways cause people to make conclusions that might not be tree about you and your program. And you didn't help yourself a few years ago when you gave a "pep talk" in the locker room. It was hard for you to believe people didn't fall over themselves to coach your beloved USC. But it's not that good of a job because it's not 1975 anymore. The 85-scholarship limit has made college football an equal-opportunity sport in which schools such as Oregon State and Virginia Tech have BCS dreams. Also working against USC are substandard facilities-all the way from Heritage Hall to the antiquated weight room. And the L.A. lifestyle isn't tot everyone, especially not for assistant coaches. Housing prices are out of sight, To live in a decent area, coaches must drive an hour to and from work. Their days are long enough as it is. Oregon State's Dennis Erickson and Oregon's Mike Bellotti are the biggest names who sniffed around the USC job but didn't really pursue it. San Diego Chargers coach Mike Riley would have been a good hire. He served as Oregon State's coach from 1997-98 and was USC's offensive coordinator before that, but he couldn't make up his mind. When he continued to drag his feet, you grabbed Carroll, who was out of work last season. Contrast that to the job search at Alabama. Marquee names such as Virginia Tech's Frank Beamer and Miami's Butch Davis seriously considered taking the job. In the end, the Tide got TCU coach Dermis Franchione, one of the hottest coaches in the college game. Dennis Franchione, USC Coach. Would've had a nice ring to it.
December 4Dec 4 6 minutes ago, HenryJames said: Would they accept someone who was molested by his defensive coordinator? or someone who may or may not have been responsible for killing someone ?
December 4Dec 4 Man, that's what message board rants looked like before message boards were invented.
December 4Dec 4 1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said: That tweet about Jimmy Sexton is bull shit. If a coach wants to go to Penn State the agent isn’t going to get in the way. If he did, the coach would and should find a different agent. Keep in mind Todd McShay is a concussion away from being mentally retarded.
December 4Dec 4 1 minute ago, JBJ said: Man, that's what message board rants looked like before message boards were invented. When exactly do you think message boards were invented?
December 4Dec 4 7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said: Here’s the Fran to USC column. Seems it was first in The Sporting News. TL;DR: Carroll is the next Paul Hackett, look at ‘Bama— they landed Fran but could have had Butch Davis if they wanted! USC should have pursued Fran or at least Mike Riley. What's their Surly username?
December 4Dec 4 7 minutes ago, JBJ said: Man, that's what message board rants looked like before message boards were invented. I really miss a more diverse sports media. Someone needs to draw a cartoon where every CFB analyst is just a puppet on the hands of a multi-armed Mickey Mouse because we are close to that. The only other alternative is each college’s in-house On3 agitprop producer.
December 4Dec 4 29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said: I really miss a more diverse sports media. Someone needs to draw a cartoon where every CFB analyst is just a puppet on the hands of a multi-armed Mickey Mouse because we are close to that. The only other alternative is each college’s in-house On3 agitprop producer. It would be nice. I wouldn’t care if Nickelodeon airs half the games. That was at least entertaining. ESPN/ABC are not neutral commentators (constantly pimping certain teams before and during and after games) nor are they neutral money givers for tv contracts. Not saying Fox is neutral nor CBS nor NBC loving NotreDame but ESPN is directly responsible for all the realignment stuff and they damn well know it. Fuck ‘em. I happened to enjoy Nick’s fun stuff 🤷🏻♀️ better than listening to the commentators suck off certain teams like they will be fired if they don’t. 🎅🏻 🌲 🎄 Edited December 4Dec 4 by Nicole44
December 4Dec 4 1 minute ago, Sir Ulrich said: He gone In the 9 rings of football hell, no program is lower than Ped St. That said, I'd love for the Gumps to get caught without a chair when the corching music stops
December 4Dec 4 9 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: When new head coaches sign a contract with a school, are there constraints that prevent them from immediately fielding or accepting offers from other schools?
December 4Dec 4 27 minutes ago, locodos said: In the 9 rings of football hell, no program is lower than Ped St. That said, I'd love for the Gumps to get caught without a chair when the corching music stops I’m still hoping Elko leaves the ags holding their dicks after they get their asses kicked in the playoffs.
December 4Dec 4 10 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: When new head coaches sign a contract with a school, are there constraints that prevent them from immediately fielding or accepting offers from other schools? Like a 1-2 year period that they can’t leave without a massive buyout owed to the school. In other words could someone like a Penn St even go after Kiffin today? (This is an example not saying that is a real possibility.) Manny Diaz was named the head coach at Miami roughly 2 weeks after he was named the head coach at Temple. Miami had to pay Temple a $4M buyout.
December 4Dec 4 9 minutes ago, gatormarc said: Manny Diaz was named the head coach at Miami roughly 2 weeks after he was named the head coach at Temple. Miami had to pay Temple a $4M buyout. He didn't work out obviously , but $4M for a buyout for someone you think you want these days is about as much as a QB. Worth it IMO I would imagine Hartlines would be more but still makes me think Penn State got some alignment problems
December 4Dec 4 26 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said: ... makes me think Penn State got some alignment problems Got them Jimmy-legs.
December 4Dec 4 5 hours ago, 'stache said: Wow, looks like we got a hell of a bargain on Morris. Terms are $3.8M per and $100K raises each year. Don't see what his buyout would be for us if he doesn't work out or if there are any incentives. By contrast, word was that Arky wanted Morris first and are paying Silverfield $6.7M per. Is it possible we found a coach who'se not only a good fit but also is willing to take less compensation to allocate towards player compensation? Maybe he's willing to take less at a place that should be easier to win than at Arky which would be a smart move? I'm really looking forward to next season. I think bowl eligibility should be possible if not likely in year 1, especially if he brings his QB and RB. https://www.si.com/college/arkansas/football/new-hogs-coach-ryan-silverfield-contract-details-including-buyout Well, it's obvious Morris isn't a greedy bastard. He can play more for the best assistants, too. Sounds like he's got a plan to get OSU scaled up quickly with UNT's top players, as well. Mestemaker should be a good QB, especially in the Big 12.
December 4Dec 4 2 minutes ago, Handcruser said: Napier going to James Madison. That's a little surprising, bc it seemed like Tulane with Napier's LA connections would be a good fit. Coach O to TU?
December 4Dec 4 2 minutes ago, tx ind said: No, he’s on the phone with Penn State Only if he’s texting. That guy can’t use a phone call for communication
December 4Dec 4 Former and current players pressuring an admin into keeping an interim coach named Terry has never ended poorly
December 4Dec 4 8 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said: Former and current players pressuring an admin into keeping an interim coach named Terry has never ended poorly
December 4Dec 4 3 minutes ago, Laxtonto said: He’s done a helluva job there, by all accounts. He was at Pitt for a year as a player before transferring to Mount Union. I remember him a bit as a player from practice. I was around the team a lot back then. Walt Harris was our head coach at the time. I reckon they could do a lot worse. Sucks for Iowa State though as he seemed happy there.
December 4Dec 4 Considering they’ve struck out on 20 guys, ending up with Matt Campbell probably isn’t a bad outcome. He wouldn’t get them higher than Franklin did though.
December 5Dec 5 The way this search played out their AD has no business making as good of a hire as Campbell.
December 5Dec 5 27 minutes ago, Michael Knight said: This is very interesting, especially how this impacts Key and GTech.
December 5Dec 5 12 minutes ago, heso said: The way this search played out their AD has no business making as good of a hire as Campbell. Yea, all this to go from Franklin to Campbell is insanity. Good.
December 5Dec 5 53 minutes ago, Michael Knight said: Those jorts wearing fuckos better stay away from our qb
December 5Dec 5 .A couple of weeks ago, I applied to some school in Utah to handle their NIL stuff or something like that. I obviously didn’t get the job. Lol. It was on LinkedIn.
December 5Dec 5 1 hour ago, Michael Knight said: Yeesh. This seems like a huge mistake. JMU has placed 2 coaches to good P4 gigs in the last 2 years. Seems like they should have kept with hiring up and comers with the promise of a big time gig rather than a guy who just flamed out miserably with all the resources a coach could want. Billy just isn’t a good coach.
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