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8 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

I don't think the next 9 months define anything about Dana Brown. He is in a difficult position of having to lie to the media all the time, because that is what his boss wants while having to deal with the boss's constant meddling in personnel decisions with his cabal of HOF players that know shit about fuck about putting a winning team on the field.

I have been advocating trading Pena and Alvarez because there is no money to make a real addition to the roster because Crane has pissed that away to shitty players time and time again. This team is about 2 years away from being a complete dumpster fire like when Crane bought the team. You can course correct and try to avoid that fire, or you can steer straight into it, too many fans appear to want to go back to the 2008-2010 version of the Astros, except MLB has changed the rules to try to negate multiple seasons of tanking.

People keep saying Alvarez is a MVP level bat, but he's never put it together and is now 29 years old. He's never hit 40 HRs, and he has driven in 100 once in his career. I'd sell high on Pena especially in this shitty offseason for SSs.

Yeah you totally lost me on Alvarez “has never put it together”.  wtf?  He finished 3rd in the MVP voting in 2022.  He has 3 seasons of 4+ fwar, as a DH.  He is inarguably one of the 10 best hitters in the world over the last 7 seasons.

The reason I said the next 9 months will define Dana Brown is because I agree with you that the Astros are teetering between becoming a dumpster fire and returning to the kind of success they had from 2015-2024.  They have a competitive roster but a below average farm.  They have an inefficient payroll but no contracts >$20M/yr after 2028.  What the GM does this offseason will determine if the Astros are able to have one more meaningful season during Altuve’s career.  How he does in the next draft will determine if the farm is able to start producing again and give them hope of being good after the current core is gone.

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Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

Seems weird to DFA Urias if we knew this was coming the next day.

 

urías was $4mil'ish cut

 

Allen is 27 and has a career BA right at the Mendoza Line. How could anyone argue against such a swap? 

I bet Meyers is next to be traded

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1 minute ago, Gut Wagon said:

Allen is 27 and has a career BA right at the Mendoza Line. How could anyone argue against such a swap? 

 

saves  $$$

he'll probably be cut too. 

Just now, Scraps said:

I bet Meyers is next to be traded

workaholics fer sure GIF

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According to @mlbtraderumors, Nick Allen is projected to make $1.5 million in arbitration this winter. Mauricio Dubón is projected to make $5.8 million. This is a money-saving swap for the Astros.

 

 

allen isn't worth $1.5mil 

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he had a solid run here, great locker room guy ...

 

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

According to @mlbtraderumors, Nick Allen is projected to make $1.5 million in arbitration this winter. Mauricio Dubón is projected to make $5.8 million. This is a money-saving swap for the Astros.

 

 

allen isn't worth $1.5mil 

Then Dubon isn't worth 5.

I think they're both worth it on defense. 

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1 minute ago, Slacks said:

Then Dubon isn't worth 5.

I think they're both worth it on defense. 

 

not for a back up. give a AAA player his shot 

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

not for a back up. give a AAA player his shot 

Both are Gold Glove level players. 

Who are the AAA level players that are likely to win a GG next year? 

Wow, I truly did not expect that move.  Safe travels Dubi!

Sportsradio 790 was talking a lot about Myers being traded this morning, so maybe they're hearing something.  There was nothing brought up about Dubi.

 

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Plus we have Urias.

DFA'd yesterday.

Just now, Pablo said:

Wow, I truly did not expect that move.  Safe travels Dubi!

Sportsradio 790 was talking a lot about Myers being traded this morning, so maybe they're hearing something.  There was nothing brought up about Dubi.

 

DFA'd yesterday.

D'oh! Stupid football board.

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cut him tonight ...

his .536 OPS since 2022 is the lowest among all major leaguers (min. 1000 AB).

They traded for the one guy with less power than Dubon
Yeah but if you are gonna pay a dude who sucks....always pay the lower price
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28 minutes ago, Scraps said:
1 hour ago, runthebone said:
They traded for the one guy with less power than Dubon

Yeah but if you are gonna pay a dude who sucks....always pay the lower price

 

AAA player, save more money 

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i think we're all missing the most queation important here, who'a going to be in the HEB commercials ???

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6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

i think we're all missing the most queation important here, who'a going to be in the HEB commercials ???

Altuve, Pena, and Daniella

We’re a long way from Billy Spiers with Nick Allen.  

7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

i think we're all missing the most queation important here, who'a going to be in the HEB commercials ???

Hunter Brown.  Or Correa.

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This was not a good trade but the Astros are desperate for payroll flexibility, having $80M committed this season to Walker, Hader, McCullers, and Javier.

I just really hope they don’t trade Jake Meyers for nothing.  He’s not making even as much as Dubon will and he’s worth far more.  If they trade him it needs to be for a meaningful prospect or for a pitcher who will make a major contribution to the 2026 team.

I get trading Dubon. I just don’t get trading him for a scrub infielder. I don’t see why Dubon couldn’t have been packaged with a couple minor leaguers for at least a serviceable major league arm. But that’s why I’m an arm chair GM and not a crappy major league GM. 

23 minutes ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

I get trading Dubon. I just don’t get trading him for a scrub infielder. I don’t see why Dubon couldn’t have been packaged with a couple minor leaguers for at least a serviceable major league arm. But that’s why I’m an arm chair GM and not a crappy major league GM. 

Because no one wants him. Guys, Dubon sucks and no one was willing to give anything of real value for him. We got an elite defensive no hit SS for him, that was his rate. Bascially, a lighter hitting Tim Bogar. Allen is a the 13th guy on a MLB roster because he can give you elite defense at SS/2B. Those guys also don't get  400 PAs like Dubon has been getting the last few seasons.  A guy with a dWAR of 2.0 is easily worth $1.5M if you manage him correctly.

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Allen is listed at 5-8, so I can't wait to see situations where he is at short and Altuve is at second.

The second way this will cut costs:  his 2026 World Series ring will probably be tiny.

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1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Bascially, a lighter hitting Tim Bogar.

 

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In 1998, the height of the steroid era, Tim Bogar had an OPS+ of 12.

 

At least he was clean.

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3 hours ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

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Zack Short makes $700k. Embrace the suck and cut more salary

 

short or brice can give us allen's numbers 

41 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

short or brice can give us allen's numbers 

But who can give us Zack Short vs the Dodgers numbers for 1 weekend each year?

I saw a suggestion on MLBTradeRumors that the Astros should try to flip Walker for Brandon Nimmo. Makes sense for both teams, gives the Astros a Lefty bat that can hit anywhere in the lineup. Alonso is likely leaving the Mets so they need a 1B. The salaries are only $500K apart, through Nimmo has 5 more years, whereas Walker has 2 more years. The only thing I would worry about is Nimmo saw his BB rate drop from 11% BB to 8%, but his career average is well over 10% and he still plays good defense especially in LF. This would balance our lineup and another OB guy.

Pena

Alvarez

Paredes

Correa

Nimmo

Altuve

Diaz

Cole

Smith

As long as you get 140 games out of both Alvarez and Paredes, that lineup fucks.

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2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

I saw a suggestion on MLBTradeRumors that the Astros should try to flip Walker for Brandon Nimmo. Makes sense for both teams, gives the Astros a Lefty bat that can hit anywhere in the lineup. Alonso is likely leaving the Mets so they need a 1B. The salaries are only $500K apart, through Nimmo has 5 more years, whereas Walker has 2 more years. The only thing I would worry about is Nimmo saw his BB rate drop from 11% BB to 8%, but his career average is well over 10% and he still plays good defense especially in LF. This would balance our lineup and another OB guy.

Pena

Alvarez

Paredes

Correa

Nimmo

Altuve

Diaz

Cole

Smith

As long as you get 140 games out of both Alvarez and Paredes, that lineup fucks.

Not bad.  I’d want NY to toss in some money or throw in a prospect but it’s close enough in value and it makes sense for both sides.

The new generation’s Adam Everett
Except Everett played.

This move is nothing and paying 1.5M or whatever for a bench gold glove finalist is fine. Paying 5.5M for dubon is not fine.

Short is no longer in the organization and sucks ass at everything. At leasy Allen can come on and play 2nd base defense in late innings.

Now if Allen gets 300 ABs or something stupid then Dana should be fired
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he's a back up ss, not a utility guy. if he could play first, that would have been great. we have peña and correa that can play ss. we don't need his 94 games at ss, or 1 game at ss 

cut him if it saves us $1.5 mil. a AAA guy can hit .213 for the major league min. hopefully avoid being the worst ops+ in the league too 

had to make the move to dump dubon's  salary, not sure about keeping him around. maybe he's paredes insurance, but there will be better fits available, if the money fits 

It's going to be a great arbitration hearing.  "We just traded for this guy, but he fucking sucks.  Our offer is that he pays us $500,000 to remain on the big league roster."

49 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Now if Allen gets 300 ABs or something stupid then Dana should be fired

*Espada

I don't think Dana or Click before him wanted Dusty/Espada making Dubon the first name on the lineup card every night

25 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

can he live up to the name ....

 

He's no Candy

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