Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Surly Horns

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Featured Replies

33 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

0-1 since receiving this “honor.”

Thats Good Donald Glover GIF

  • Replies 733
  • Views 35.9k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • Chad Fuck
    Chad Fuck

    A friend asked for my script.  Here's what I told the lady: I am a graduate of the College of Liberal Arts and the School of Law.  I view this letter as extortion of the University.  It is an unc

  • SuingToGetAMessageBoard?
    SuingToGetAMessageBoard?

    They must have banned grade inflation in every class I took. 

  • wild_turkey
    wild_turkey

    Your summarization is incomplete and the devil is in the details. Here is the full text of the compact: https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/4059a5dd-f3dc-4cf6-bf1f-9e0d98c2f8d9.pdf?itid=lk_inlin

Posted Images

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

0-1 since receiving this “honor.”

Yes I can’t wait for UT to leave ABET and all the other woke National certifying agencies with their accreditation to make the degree worthless.  Luckily I am licensed in multiple states so I don’t need that accreditation anymore but holy fuck they are lighting the flagship on fire.

22 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

I’m shocked—SHOCKED—that a business school professor would have such dumb opinions.

Well… not THAT shocked. 

Hey now!

55 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Hey now!

Exception that proves the rule, imo.

15 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

AISD going down the shitter further.

UT aligning itself with Trump.

UT football falling apart.

Beginning Ben Sinclair GIF by PeacockTV

Tbh it’s making it easier to disengage from this season and maybe football and the university in general

Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

Tbh it’s making it easier to disengage from this season and maybe football and the university in general

Yep. I’m done with the circus part of bread and circuses. 

On 10/2/2025 at 12:08 PM, BurdineBandit said:

Everything is a fucking shakedown to him. "Better access" to funding. Kiss the ring and daddy will let you set on his lap and give you a few dollars. Fucking disgusting. What a joke of an educational system we're going to have. International reputation for academic excellence? Ehhh, if God King says it's ok to teach, we'll teach it enthusiastically, otherwise, what is "knowledge" anyways. Smart people don't like him, so smart is actually dumb and education is gay. 

It's really sad because the US literally has dozens of world-class institutions.  Those aren't easy to develop.  That number will plummet.  I know you're deeply embedded, and I'm sorry you're having to see this play out.  My UT graduate work is bulletproof, I'm not that far from retirement, but my two Longhorn kids are going to suffer with this watering down of our university.  I don't really know what to tell them.

2 hours ago, South Austin said:

You’re an all star.

You had to put that song in my head, and now I’m thinking about Shrek.

Frustrated Head GIF

6 hours ago, mooseoutfront said:

Yep. I’m done with the circus part of bread and circuses. 

You guys are getting bread??

So how should I respond to this week's email from UT asking for money?

Not that I've donated anything in a while, but I still want to make a point.

Edited by miguelito

7 minutes ago, miguelito said:

So how should I respond to this week's email from UT asking for money?

Not that I've donated anything in a while, but I still want to make a point.

Maybe you can email back asking where you can send them the mouthwash they'll need after gargling Donald Trump's balls.

28 minutes ago, miguelito said:

So how should I respond to this week's email from UT asking for money?

Not that I've donated anything in a while, but I still want to make a point.

 

hate to say it, but it's all over. abbott and patrick had a plan and it's too far gone 

  • Popular Post
32 minutes ago, miguelito said:

So how should I respond to this week's email from UT asking for money?

Not that I've donated anything in a while, but I still want to make a point.

Tell em, I haven't made a donation in a while but was seriously considering including UT in my estate plan.  That goes away if this happens.

Because that's exactly what I'm doing.

  • Author
  • Popular Post

Good piece that really shows the absurdities and contradictions, and anti-intellectualism of the "compact." Author is a prof at UVA and a UT grad.

https://newrepublic.com/article/201376/trump-compact-academic-excellence-university-virginia

Quote

But let’s assume that “conservatism” now means “things President Donald Trump and his Cabinet want to do.” Then imagine that the University of Virginia, my employer, signed on to this statement, as McMahon has requested.  

Quote

 

So, yeah. If I keep writing what I’m writing and teaching as I teach and supporting students as I have been supporting them, then there is a very good chance that the University of Virginia—if it signs on—would have to fire me or face the complete elimination of federal support and thus have to shut its doors and turn off the lights.   

It gets worse. Right after the sentence banning the “belittlement” of “conservative ideas,” the document proclaims, “Given the importance of academic freedom to the marketplace of ideas, signatories shall adopt a policy protecting academic freedom in classrooms, teaching, research, and scholarship.” 

Yes, that next sentence directly contradicts the previous one. You are not misreading it. This document is that stupid. Whoops. That’s more belittlement.   

j

 

 

Edited by Reese Bennett

On 10/4/2025 at 9:34 PM, Hefeweizen said:

Yes I can’t wait for UT to leave ABET and all the other woke National certifying agencies with their accreditation to make the degree worthless.  Luckily I am licensed in multiple states so I don’t need that accreditation anymore but holy fuck they are lighting the flagship on fire.

This is absolutely, positively coming. I'd bet huge money on it. AAU is woke and we're going to break off and do our own thing. The cardinal rule right now is that absolutely everything must be politicized and divided.

28 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

Good piece that really shows the absurdities and contradictions, and anti-intellectualism of the "compact." Author is a prof at UVA and a UT grad.

https://newrepublic.com/article/201376/trump-compact-academic-excellence-university-virginia

j

 

 

As for the internal contradictions and stuff, I think a lot of these letters and EOs are being written by LLMs.

True story: I actually tried to get myself fired my last year, but no dice.

what happens when dear leader is no longer around ?

abbott will use this to crack down on 'woke' profs and admins. move in his people 

Edited by tx 3 putt

On 10/5/2025 at 3:12 PM, jimmyjazz said:

I'm not that far from retirement, but my two Longhorn kids are going to suffer with this watering down of our university.  I don't really know what to tell them.

I'm glad my oldest didn't pick UT and that they are doing the rug pull before my youngest has to make a decision.

On 10/5/2025 at 3:12 PM, jimmyjazz said:

It's really sad because the US literally has dozens of world-class institutions.  Those aren't easy to develop.  That number will plummet.  I know you're deeply embedded, and I'm sorry you're having to see this play out.  My UT graduate work is bulletproof, I'm not that far from retirement, but my two Longhorn kids are going to suffer with this watering down of our university.  I don't really know what to tell them.

 

i don't think bigger companies give a fuck about all this. they need bodies, partially qualified is best

i know o/g don't give a fuck about all this. they just need college grads that can fit in / pass drug tests / show up consistently / be extremely coachable / not be a drama mama 

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

show up consistently

Good luck with that. 

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

True story: I actually tried to get myself fired my last year, but no dice.

YARN | -Body-Suit man. -Hey! | Seinfeld (1989) - S08E20 The Millennium |  Video clips by quotes | 6d29f843 | 紗

  • Author
2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

i don't think bigger companies give a fuck about all this. they need bodies, partially qualified is best

i know o/g don't give a fuck about all this. they just need college grads that can fit in / pass drug tests / show up consistently / be extremely coachable / not be a drama mama 

I thought that was what AI is for. 

Side question: If colleges just push out automatons and AI handles all the beginning/mid-level tasks, where does senior leadership come from in 20-30 years?

Answer: Probably current leadership's failsons.

33 minutes ago, Reese Bennett said:

I thought that was what AI is for. 

Side question: If colleges just push out automatons and AI handles all the beginning/mid-level tasks, where does senior leadership come from in 20-30 years?

Answer: Probably current leadership's failsons.

So, exactly like it's always been.

Dammit.  Now I feel like a real dummy for going to the business school!

 

Thanks a lot SURLY!!!

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

i know o/g don't give a fuck about all this. they just need college grads that can fit in / pass drug tests / show up consistently / be extremely coachable / not be a drama mama 

Why do they have to be college grads?  Feels like they are cutting out most of their aspiring hires. 

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why do they have to be college grads?  Feels like they are cutting out most of their aspiring hires. 

 

a 22 yo with a degree is a safer hire than a 22 yo with 4 years experience  

 

most chem plants / refineries have a 3 year apprentice program for no degree / non engineering highers 

  • Author

Looks like the Dartmouth president said no. Southern Cal faculty overwhelmingly voted no, as did the faculty at MIT and the faculty at Arizona. 97% of UVA faculty are against it. 

Any word on UT faculty taking a vote/issuing a statement?

  • Popular Post

The faculty at UT will vote overwhelmingly no, and then the administration will make UT the only university to sign on

I thought that was what AI is for. 
Side question: If colleges just push out automatons and AI handles all the beginning/mid-level tasks, where does senior leadership come from in 20-30 years?
Answer: Probably current leadership's failsons.

Ding, ding, ding. Jon Stewart’s guest hit on this in a most horrifying way on Monday night.

This is how we jump in the fast lane to:

giphy.gif
15 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

most chem plants / refineries have a 3 year apprentice program for no degree / non engineering highers 

I think most of the guys I worked with in Pasadena did I think a 2 year degree from UH-clear lake specific to working as a refinery operator. 

1 hour ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks like the Dartmouth president said no. Southern Cal faculty overwhelmingly voted no, as did the faculty at MIT and the faculty at Arizona. 97% of UVA faculty are against it. 

Any word on UT faculty taking a vote/issuing a statement?

 

Greg Abbott Sport GIF by UFC

 

Stephen miller will now be making up the incoming freshman class and setting policy 

fyi, abbott shit canned the faculty senate ...

The UT faculty senate was replaced in August 2025with new advisory bodies by UT Austin and the UT System in response to Texas Senate Bill 37, which transferred academic decision-making power away from faculty to university leadership. The new structure includes a <President's Faculty Advisory Board and a Faculty Advisory Cohort,which will serve solely in an advisory capacity, with no final decision-making authority.  
 

Impact of SB 37

Reduced Faculty Autonomy: 

Faculty senates historically had the power to make decisions on issues such as course offerings and faculty hiring, but SB 37 has eliminated this power. 

Shift in Authority: 

Decision-making authority now rests with the university president and the UT System regents, rather than the faculty. 

 
 
15 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

fyi, abbott shit canned the faculty senate ...

 

The UT faculty senate was replaced in August 2025with new advisory bodies by UT Austin and the UT System in response to Texas Senate Bill 37, which transferred academic decision-making power away from faculty to university leadership. The new structure includes a <President's Faculty Advisory Board and a Faculty Advisory Cohort,which will serve solely in an advisory capacity, with no final decision-making authority.  
 

Impact of SB 37

Reduced Faculty Autonomy: 

Faculty senates historically had the power to make decisions on issues such as course offerings and faculty hiring, but SB 37 has eliminated this power. 

Shift in Authority: 

Decision-making authority now rests with the university president and the UT System regents, rather than the faculty. 

 
 

They did that at every state university.  Honestly, in my experience, the faculty senate was a massive waste of time.  

2 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

They did that at every state university.  Honestly, in my experience, the faculty senate was a massive waste of time.  

 

yet abbott saw them as a threat 

16 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

yet abbott saw it as too democratic and that isn't an American value any more

fify

Faculty Senate = decision making not by the ruling elite = bad

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

fify

Faculty Senate = decision making not by the ruling elite = bad

I can't speak to UT, but at TxSt, the faculty senate had no decision-making power.  The senate president had the ear of the university president, and I'm sure there was collaboration and consultation, but the senate had absolutely zero power to set university policy.  It honestly served more as a faculty union, which better explains why the state wanted to kill them off.

7 minutes ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

image.thumb.jpeg.f1c436c9d764dc95af6f7fa32b416216.jpeg

"However, nothing will be released by this group without it being approved by Ken Paxton and Stephen Miller."  You gotta read the footnotes, man.

7 hours ago, Reese Bennett said:

Looks like the Dartmouth president said no. Southern Cal faculty overwhelmingly voted no, as did the faculty at MIT and the faculty at Arizona. 97% of UVA faculty are against it. 

Any word on UT faculty taking a vote/issuing a statement?

Not saying that they wouldn't have voted that way anyway, but Governor Newsom wasn't fucking around.

44 minutes ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

image.thumb.jpeg.f1c436c9d764dc95af6f7fa32b416216.jpeg

Hard to get a read on most of these profs.

https://www.steventcollis.com/books

https://scholars.org/scholar/zachary-elkins

https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/sociology/faculty/mdr93

Quote

Mark is the author of over 40 published articles and book chapters, and four books. The last two of these are The Future of Christian Marriage (Oxford, 2020), a seven-country study of the waning marital impulse, and Cheap Sex and the Transformation of Men, Marriage, and Monogamy (Oxford, 2017) in which he describes the world that has come to be due to the influence of technology on sex and sexuality. His published research is widely reviewed, including in outlets such as The New Yorker, The Atlantic Monthly, Christianity Today, and the Wall Street Journal. He’s a frequent contributor to First Things, National Review, and Public Discourse.

This "civic leadership" program has two guys on this, what's that about?

https://civicleadership.utexas.edu/about/

Quote

Students in the SCL encounter the distinct inheritance of Western civilization and the American constitutional tradition as part of a larger quest for wisdom about how to live and how to lead.

Cool Cool Nbc GIF by Brooklyn Nine-Nine

https://civicleadership.utexas.edu/people/david-leal/

https://news.utexas.edu/2024/08/19/school-of-civic-leadership-accepting-applications-for-inaugural-class/

9 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

That is a more academic outgrowth of the Civitas Institute.

Collis is a Morm, although I see some of his scholarly work is praised by non-right-wing sources.

Regnerus has written some scorchingly anti-LGBTQ stuff.

This is a bunch of Nazis.

Also, so much for the idea that conservative viewpoints aren't represented at UT.

Edited by TwiceHorn

4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Regnerus has written some scorchingly anti-LGBTQ stuff.

We know him.

There are few more closeted people on the planet.

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

That is a more academic outgrowth of the Civitas Institute.

Collis is a Morm, although I see some of his scholarly work is praised by non-right-wing sources.

This is a bunch of Nazis.

I saw a few gender studies and underwater basket weavers to balance it out, to be fair. This seems like an attempt to pacify the faculty, students, and alumni as well as a way to pretend the decision to bend the knee wasn't preordained when they announce that they'll bend the knee. Nobody smart will buy it.

1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

I saw a few gender studies and underwater basket weavers to balance it out, to be fair. This seems like an attempt to pacify the faculty, students, and alumni as well as a way to pretend the decision to bend the knee wasn't preordained when they announce that they'll bend the knee. Nobody smart will buy it.

Collis' religious liberty clinic sounds frightening, but to his/its credit, they seem to be representing a lot of non-judeo-christian parties.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.