November 25Nov 25 2 hours ago, WBT said: also, what kind of psycho puts canned dog food in his storage unit? Probably people who were moving and needed to store stuff temporarily.
November 25Nov 25 5 hours ago, Red Five said: I also like the idea of those two developing a deep relationship. Haha. It’s Apple + Gilligan. He shot Pinkman and Krysten Ritter in bed for an entire season and I think the most we got is Ritter in a tank top. It defied the laws of physics. We got to see Zosia’s ass in E2. I’ll take the win and move on. Edited November 25Nov 25 by billfromlaketravis
November 26Nov 26 Some cool stuff from E4: - The actor that performed CPR on Zosia was the on set EMT that saved Odenkirk’s life while filming the last season of Better Call Saul. Incredible to think about. If the EMT had been at lunch or something, we don’t get one of the best turns in television history and a brilliant performer dies way too soon. Awesome move by our guy VG to honor a hero on Pluribus. - Rhea Seahorn was present when Odenkirk’s widow maker heart attack hit. She was watched as the EMT saved his life. So I’d say she knew exactly what to do in Zosia’s scene. Edited November 26Nov 26 by billfromlaketravis
November 26Nov 26 Yours truly called it. Spoiler They’re feeding the Others with dead humans. They telegraphed the shit out of it in the Zosia montage in E2. Maybe the shock is Carol finding out what’s in the milk?
November 26Nov 26 52 minutes ago, Buzzrock said: So the best drone pilots in the world can’t avoid a simple street light. That was the first time the AI symbolism really hit home for me. So the powder going into the milk is people? I guess something had to happen to get the rest of the survivors on Carol's side. Will the others deliver her video with that revelation? The recording that Carol was talking to all episode was this guy, right? Spoiler
November 27Nov 27 1 hour ago, WBT said: The recording that Carol was talking to all episode was this guy, right? Good fucking call.
November 27Nov 27 Author 4 hours ago, Buzzrock said: So the best drone pilots in the world can’t avoid a simple street light. I figured it was because the bag was over the 17 lb limit. Immediately recognized the Howard Hamlin voice as well. Them breaking up with her was funny. But it dragged overall. Otherwise this episode was real slow and uneventful. Nicely convenient that the manufacturing all occurred in town. Hopefully the cliffhanger isn't the sci-fi cliche it appears to be.
November 27Nov 27 20 hours ago, Buzzrock said: I really hope it’s not that obvious. Right? and I still don’t know why they keep doing what she asks, like turning the city lights back on. Keep the sprouts stocked, tell her to drop her garbage at the sprouts dumpster, monitor her by drone/satellite, and leave her to her “independence.” i assume they do plan on returning to Albuquerque since they left all of the foodstuffs at the processing plant areas of taking them with.
November 27Nov 27 13 hours ago, gofuckyourself said: Nicely convenient that the manufacturing all occurred in town. I figure they have to have facilities in all areas, just like we do now, to best manufacture and distribute the drink to 7 billion people. And using the bags and cartons already available is just smart logistics. Edited November 27Nov 27 by Pato del Muerto
November 27Nov 27 I would be asking a lot of questions. Even if the plan is to revert, in the mean time I’d want to know who shot JFK, is Area 51 real, did we land on the moon, who is on the Epstein list…
November 27Nov 27 On 11/26/2025 at 1:12 PM, Buzzrock said: I really hope it’s not that obvious. Agreed, maybe it is pets? They seem to have all disappeared. That at least won’t be simply people eaters.
November 28Nov 28 The body bags were the length, width , and height of a human body. It’s people folks.
November 28Nov 28 4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said: The body bags were the length, width , and height of a human body. It’s people folks. Spoiler Wrong movie so sue me
November 28Nov 28 Otherwise this episode was real slow and uneventful.Sort of disagree. I think this is the expected pace of this show, which will gradually set the stage for this bizarro dystopian world, and the viewer gets to contemplate the problem through Carol’s eyes.The story advances by revealing small bits of information about the conflict, rather than major action sequences. Last episode, we learned that they cannot lie and their condition is likely reversible. This episode, we learned that they are willing to withdraw for either emotional reasons or their own safety, and that they most likely consume the dead.I think that’s the expectation for the average episode.
November 28Nov 28 I was wrong, it is humans. Spoiler a theory based on the title of next weeks episode. Spoiler The title for the next episode is “HDP”, the running theory is this stands for “human derived protein”, thanks to the letters switching for each language the show is in, this seems to be confirmed.
November 28Nov 28 Disappointing but I guess if you immediately cease all animal harvesting you might not have sufficient food resources. It shouldn’t just be humans in the cocktail though, why wouldn’t they use all available dead animals as protein sources?
November 28Nov 28 I was wrong, it is humans.Based on the ratio of dead people (~1 billion) to remaining live people (~7 billion), the average corpse would feed 7 people for how long? Assume average body weight of 180 lbs and ignore for a second the corpse has a lot of water weight, that’s 25.7 lbs of tissue per living human.Perhaps they are supplementing it with other dead animals or another nutrition source because that wouldn’t last very long. And then what happens? Start sacrificing the critically ill?
November 28Nov 28 Been watching and enjoying the show. I clicked to get back to where I left off in this thread and saw there've been 4 more pages added since I last checked in. Reading the comments back there made me realize how many details I've forgotten while watching this show one week at a time.
November 28Nov 28 7 minutes ago, wild_turkey said: Based on the ratio of dead people (~1 billion) to remaining live people (~7 billion), the average corpse would feed 7 people for how long? Assume average body weight of 180 lbs and ignore for a second the corpse has a lot of water weight, that’s 25.7 lbs of tissue per living human. Perhaps they are supplementing it with other dead animals or another nutrition source because that wouldn’t last very long. And then what happens? Start sacrificing the critically ill? I found a Reddit post that said 127 lbs of protein on a steer carcass. What’s one of those weigh, 750 lbs?
November 28Nov 28 I keep being reminded of that Seehorn interview quote where she said "Whatever you think the story is about, it's not that." I'm fully prepared for this to not even be aliens. But yeah, I'd guess now that the white powder is probably a combination of a bunch of different things, including dead humans.
November 28Nov 28 34 minutes ago, wild_turkey said: Based on the ratio of dead people (~1 billion) to remaining live people (~7 billion), the average corpse would feed 7 people for how long? Assume average body weight of 180 lbs and ignore for a second the corpse has a lot of water weight, that’s 25.7 lbs of tissue per living human. Perhaps they are supplementing it with other dead animals or another nutrition source because that wouldn’t last very long. And then what happens? Start sacrificing the critically ill? Well, we are assuming no more procreation beyond those that were already pregnant, yes? Don’t know how many deaths happen each day but safe to assume accidental deaths would go way down aside from seizures at inopportune moments. Plus there was produce as well, so it’s probably like a V8 with added proteins. That spreads the protein content further. would love for it to me something more interesting than Soylent.
November 28Nov 28 18 minutes ago, Red Five said: I keep being reminded of that Seehorn interview quote where she said "Whatever you think the story is about, it's not that." I'm fully prepared for this to not even be aliens. But yeah, I'd guess now that the white powder is probably a combination of a bunch of different things, including dead humans. It’s LOST all over again, she is in purgatory and died from alcoholism.
November 28Nov 28 Half the episode was Carol trying to keep the coyotes from eating her dead girlfriend . . . so I'm sure it's ends with her realization that all the other dead humans are being processed into food. Remember when they offered to take care of the girlfriend's corpse early on? The question becomes - can the hive live off anything else or is it imperative that they eat Soylent to stay connected to the hive.
November 28Nov 28 19 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said: Half the episode was Carol trying to keep the coyotes from eating her dead girlfriend . . . so I'm sure it's ends with her realization that all the other dead humans are being processed into food. Remember when they offered to take care of the girlfriend's corpse early on? The question becomes - can the hive live off anything else or is it imperative that they eat Soylent to stay connected to the hive. I think you're on to something there. Bizarro circle of life. Everything with Gilligan is deliberate. He’s took the time to show us the others carefully stacking dead bodies in a refrigerated truck in the middle of Zosia’s introduction montage. It was significant and it will come up again.
November 28Nov 28 Author I assume it's processed and ground up bones based on the pH level of the finished solution. Animal flesh is something like 7 to 7.2 pH when living, but drops fast once slaughtered.
November 28Nov 28 Has anybody clocked the others that are related to the immune act much differently than the rest of the hive mind? Laxmi’s son appears to be doing homework(?) at the beginning of E5. What’s the point of homework if he already knows everything? What’s he writing down? Why would Laxmi order him to do his homework if she knows he’s not learning anything? And at the brunch, the Chinese Family were conversing and laughing like they were their normal selves. I wonder if there’s something there? Like Laxmi asked her hive mind liaison to make her son act more normal. Regardless, the families sure as hell aren’t doing manual labor 12 hours a day. Edited November 28Nov 28 by billfromlaketravis
November 28Nov 28 I think the hive mind family members are just trying to act as normal as possible for their unhived family members. It's patronizing, but apparently welcomed. I think its the equivalent of the hive offering to do anything for Carol to make her happy.
November 29Nov 29 Carol kind of sucks but I'm glad they threw in the conversion therapy lore to at least give some insight on why she is so resistant.
December 1Dec 1 Re: the house being same one in BB, just saw on Instagram that the little neighborhood was built just for the show.
December 1Dec 1 45 minutes ago, Scary Stranger said: Re: the house being same one in BB, just saw on Instagram that the little neighborhood was built just for the show. The Google Earth photos are wild.
December 2Dec 2 Gilligan is a funny guy. He basically dared fans/drone operators to fly over the set on the official podcast. Something like “don’t do it. It’s FAA restricted airspace. You’ll receive a large fine and will be prosecuted.” Then he drops a very drone heavy episode. I guess he missed all those drones flying over the Newark Airport last year. Zero arrests, and I’m not sure they even have a suspect. Fans throwing pizzas on the roof of the White home seems to have really bothered him.
December 2Dec 2 On 11/28/2025 at 4:31 PM, billfromlaketravis said: Has anybody clocked the others that are related to the immune act much differently than the rest of the hive mind? Laxmi’s son appears to be doing homework(?) at the beginning of E5. What’s the point of homework if he already knows everything? What’s he writing down? Why would Laxmi order him to do his homework if she knows he’s not learning anything? And at the brunch, the Chinese Family were conversing and laughing like they were their normal selves. I wonder if there’s something there? Like Laxmi asked her hive mind liaison to make her son act more normal. Regardless, the families sure as hell aren’t doing manual labor 12 hours a day. Right, when they were having lunch, they all sat there and waited for Zosia to answer questions...they all could've just answered the questions. There must be an effort to remain "in character" I guess to keep them calm until they can figure out how to get them joined.
December 2Dec 2 Seeing online making a big deal about the nurse referring to Zosia as "she" and not "we" when Carol was asking about her after the heart attack etc. Speculation is Carol broke her hive control.
December 2Dec 2 On 11/25/2025 at 9:26 PM, billfromlaketravis said: Some cool stuff from E4: - The actor that performed CPR on Zosia was the on set EMT that saved Odenkirk’s life while filming the last season of Better Call Saul. Incredible to think about. If the EMT had been at lunch or something, we don’t get one of the best turns in television history and a brilliant performer dies way too soon. Awesome move by our guy VG to honor a hero on Pluribus. - Rhea Seahorn was present when Odenkirk’s widow maker heart attack hit. She was watched as the EMT saved his life. So I’d say she knew exactly what to do in Zosia’s scene. Odenkirk Doesn’t Credit the Medic with Saving Him Spoiler “The medic came around the corner and he froze in his tracks. It was his first day,” he quipped. "And he said, 'Oh no.' And he didn’t move.” Odenkirk said he had no memory of the incident and a few weeks later, the medic actually apologized to him. "Weeks later when I came back, he said, 'I’m so sorry it was my first day, I have been a firefighter,' — he was retired — 'I’ve never done CPR. I have only ever seen other people do it,'” he said with a laugh. He told The New York Times that an on-set health safety supervisor and an assistant director on the series performed CPR and shocked him with an automated defibrillator three times to restart his heart before he was taken to a hospital.
December 5Dec 5 47 minutes ago, Buzzrock said: Dammit I thought this show usually dropped a day early 8 central.
December 5Dec 5 Omg I’m dying. Spoiler The John Cena infomercial was perfection. Especially after his bullshit apology in Mandarian. I’m laughing my ass off.
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