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1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

You really want to compare between the melting pot that the US is and the predominantly white UK? I mean, we can but I don't think your going to like what the data suggests.

So you're conceding your prior argument that gun deaths in the US were about the same as knife deaths in the US, per capita?

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12 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I'd bet my entire net worth you're lying about almost everything to do with your family.

All $1300? Mighty brave, sir. Mighty brave.

Just now, ElChupacabra said:

 

fucking LOL.

 

3 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

You really want to compare between the melting pot that the US is and the predominantly white UK? I mean, we can but I don't think your going to like what the data suggests.

UK: 80% white.

US: 60% white.

The US is only 25% less white than the UK....yet has a murder rate that is more than SIX TIMES that of the UK.

 

Data continues to be a bitch, and to make you its bitch.

12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Clarence Thomas, in the SCOTUS Bruen decision, LITERALLY said that in considering gun regulations, we can ONLY consider gun regulations that were in place/within the "historical tradition" of the time of the adoption of the 2nd amendment.

We didn't say that.  Clarence Thomas did.  So, either apply the rule in Bruen all the way, or not at all.

You never stopped to think that maybe they left it intentionally vague because they anticipated evolution of warfare? 

 

This still doesn't even address the fact that the 2A is there to protect against tyrannical government.

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

In 2022, US murder rate per 100k people: 6.3

In 2024, UK murder rate per 100k people: 0.97

Data is a bitch, ain't it?

 

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

So you're conceding your prior argument that gun deaths in the US were about the same as knife deaths in the US, per capita?

you guys obviously missed where the "biracial" guy said that you can't compare them on a per capita basis because the u.k. is all white people.

9 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

You’re a fucking moron

The feeling is mutual, bucko.

See, also Canada. 69% white.

10 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Should we publicly harass those with darker skin tones like was the norm then as well? 

You don’t keep up with current events, do you?

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Again, track all of these measures against our western counterparts, and see how much better the US has done since Biden and Harris took office compared to all of our peer nations.

And be sure not to ignore the fact that the "high fuel prices" you just complained about literally do not exist -- comparing prices today to pre-pandemic prices, fuel is literally one of the cheapest things you can buy.

And be sure not to ignore that since the pandemic unemployment spike that the whole world experienced, the US unemployment rate since Biden and Harris took over has been on an amazing streak of being low as hell.

I know that facts and data just piss people like you off, but fuck your feelings.

You mean our predominantly white, predominantly male, predominantly conservative western counterparts? Which side are you on? 

40 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


 

 

 

 

 

 

Prednisone is a steroid

"i dont watch the news, but the UK is suffering from an alarming number of stabbings and bludgeonings."

So maybe you should, you know, watch some news so you don't repeat lies you read on the internet?

I have to say this is one of the worst trolls in recent memory on this site. I really can't think of another one that is as stupid as this motherfucker. You old timers will have to regale us with stories of those who were worse, but damn this guy sucks at this.

Just now, ElChupacabra said:

You never stopped to think that maybe they left it intentionally vague because they anticipated evolution of warfare? 

Yet the rule pronounced in Bruen is anything but vague.  It allows no room for vagueness: if a specific type of gun regulation didn't exist in 1789, it is unconstitutional.

Try again.

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

This still doesn't even address the fact that the 2A is there to protect against tyrannical government.

A take that the right-wing talking heads you listen to say, yet is factually incorrect.  The context and writing on the 2nd Amendment at the time reflects that the purpose of having arms available to the population was because the US did not have much in the way of a standing army to defend against threats.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong, or do you just chug like gallons of Monster Energy Wrongness Juice to keep you going?

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

UK: 80% white.

US: 60% white.

The US is only 25% less white than the UK....yet has a murder rate that is more than SIX TIMES that of the UK.

 

Data continues to be a bitch, and to make you its bitch.

You intentionally minimalizing the massive distinction between 25% less whites is...well, expected. You claim data is your friend yet you are only proving that the whiter the country the lesser the crime statistics. I don't want a white country. But, it appears you do. 

I am negging every one of this trolls posts. Goddamn you are dumb @ElChupacabra. Willfully. You almost connect the dots and then you fall back on all the orange mans talking points. I can talk to 100k trump voters and to a fucking T, they spout the same things. No variation in thoughts. Just whatever they saw that day online. 

I am positive you are as bi-racial as I am, you are lying about any care about anyone but yourself, and you use these lies to justify your hatred toward everyone that you believe has prevented you from succeeding to the level you believe you are owed. I am also 100% sure you put hands on a women at some point in your life.

I was hoping to see the claims I heard from a coworker today. He hated libtards because they are trying to take everything to crypto and get rid of all money. Uhh your boy literally just started/endorsed a crypto this week. He short circuited and walked out.

3 minutes ago, sidis said:

 

you guys obviously missed where the "biracial" guy said that you can't compare them on a per capita basis because the u.k. is all white people.

You hard of reading or something? Or do you just intentionally put on this dumbass schtick? 

2 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

You mean our predominantly white, predominantly male, predominantly conservative western counterparts? Which side are you on? 

"Predominantly male?"  WTF did France and Germany do with all their women?  Dammit, I love French women.

I'm still waiting for you to be right about....something....anything.

1 minute ago, Thrawn said:

I have to say this is one of the worst trolls in recent memory on this site. I really can't think of another one that is as stupid as this motherfucker. You old timers will have to regale us with stories of those who were worse, but damn this guy sucks at this.

Agreed. The DT is not sending us their best and brightest

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

You intentionally minimalizing the massive distinction between 25% less whites is...well, expected. You claim data is your friend yet you are only proving that the whiter the country the lesser the crime statistics. I don't want a white country. But, it appears you do. 

I didn't bring up racial makeup as a factor in the violent crime rate -- you did.

I simply demonstrated that your thesis was absolute bullshit.

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

"i dont watch the news, but the UK is suffering from an alarming number of stabbings and bludgeonings."

So maybe you should, you know, watch some news so you don't repeat lies you read on the internet?

Uh, I go the the UK a minimum of three times annually. I don't have to watch the news. I can get it directly from the populace over there. Wanna come with next time?

4 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

The feeling is mutual, bucko.

But I have empiric evidence 

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

You mean our predominantly white, predominantly male, predominantly conservative western counterparts? Which side are you on? 

oecd countries are predominately male and conservative?

france, germany, u.k., australia, canada, new zealand, belgium, sweden, spain, ireland...well known bastions of conservatism and apparently no women.

i've never seen someone grasp so idiotically at the most bizarrely incorrect shit.

20 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Hey, it's the Dixie Chicks!

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Uh, I go the the UK a minimum of three times annually. I don't have to watch the news. I can get it directly from the populace over there. Wanna come with next time?

hahahah

14 minutes ago, royiv said:

She misspoke one single time and said “million” instead of “thousand” and you’re trying to equate this to Trump’s incessant stream of lies and fairy tales? You are not a serious person.

One, single time? What about when she claimed there were no US soldiers abroad? Where is my nephew then? Just fucking about?

3 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

You hard of reading or something? Or do you just intentionally put on this dumbass schtick? 

in response to the comparison of per capital murders between the united states and the united kingdom, this was your response:

13 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

You really want to compare between the melting pot that the US is and the predominantly white UK? I mean, we can but I don't think your going to like what the data suggests.

like i said, you are literally too stupid to insult.

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Uh, I go the the UK a minimum of three times annually. I don't have to watch the news. I can get it directly from the populace over there. Wanna come with next time?

Data.

Not what your friends say.  DATA.

The UK murder rate, including every method you discussed, is below 1 per 100k.  Less than 1/6th of what it is here.

And I'm well aware of the violent crime rate and issues in the UK.  Both of my kids live there, full time.  But even their stories aren't the tale of the tape -- the DATA is.  Data which you ignore, because it doesn't fit your narrative.  But facts and data don't give a fuck about your feelings.

11 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

And this MF claims to be Native American. No fucking way he acts the same on the res as he does around whitey

You've never been closer to a Native than your high school textbooks and it shows. Natives are predominantly conservative. Well, what's left of us after your people committed mass genocide on mine you white man.

13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

In 2022, US murder rate per 100k people: 6.3

In 2024, UK murder rate per 100k people: 0.97

Data is a bitch, ain't it?

You must've missed the part where Scotland and Llanybydder don't count.

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6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yet the rule pronounced in Bruen is anything but vague.  It allows no room for vagueness: if a specific type of gun regulation didn't exist in 1789, it is unconstitutional.

Try again.

A take that the right-wing talking heads you listen to say, yet is factually incorrect.  The context and writing on the 2nd Amendment at the time reflects that the purpose of having arms available to the population was because the US did not have much in the way of a standing army to defend against threats.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong, or do you just chug like gallons of Monster Energy Wrongness Juice to keep you going?

And that "rule" will never, ever supercede the inalienable RIGHTS of Americans. You hate it but that's the way it is, G.

5 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Uh, I go the the UK a minimum of three times annually. I don't have to watch the news. I can get it directly from the populace over there. Wanna come with next time?

You get crime stats from the populace directly? 

You mean anecdotes. Apparently from people as ignorant as you. 

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

You've never been closer to a Native than your high school textbooks and it shows. Natives are predominantly conservative. Well, what's left of us after your people committed mass genocide on mine you white man.

So you are 1/2 native American? What tribe? 

 

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

"Predominantly male?"  WTF did France and Germany do with all their women?  Dammit, I love French women.

I'm still waiting for you to be right about....something....anything.

You tell me. Is 75+ % male PREDOMINANT enough for you? I'm still waiting for you to be right about anything as well.

 

 

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Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

So you are 1/2 native American? What tribe? 

 

Diatribe.

8 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

Gotta love how history repeats.... For the zillion billionth time.

We have a fascist who gazes into the mirror and sees a patriot. 

We have 100+ million in America: fascists who see patriots in their mirror. They also see patriots on Fox News, at their church, among like-minded friends, in social media circles. 

They are dangerous because patriotism is blinding. Total patriots cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be persuaded. They only be contained (or defeated if needed). 

Because of these fascists, I proudly state: I am not a patriot! 

Well, bye! Insert Tombstone gif. 

Honestly, I’m impressed at how quickly this idiot can flood the zone with his stupidity. Daddy Trump would be proud.

2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

So you are 1/2 native American? What tribe? 

 

I am Chief Dirtybottom of the Nowipum Tribe.

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

You tell me. Is 75+ % male PREDOMINANT enough for you? I'm still waiting for you to be right about anything as well.

 

 

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I've visited several of those countries and the people there tell me otherwise.

Just now, royiv said:

Honestly, I’m impressed at how quickly this idiot can flood the zone with his stupidity. Daddy Trump would be proud.

It's cute that you've taken to calling another man Daddy. 

Just now, Foosters said:

I've visited several of those countries and the people there tell me otherwise.

Too bad your experiences don't matter. Only data. And that's the data directly from AI that has no dog in this fight. Yall seem to love AI around here. Bask in it's truth.

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

I am Chief Dirtybottom of the Nowipum Tribe.

So you are a liar. I am also bi-racial! I am 1/128th Cherokee! I even have a card somewhere saying I am part of the Cherokee nation. You are a joke of a human and deserve what you sow.

1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

Well, uh, he's not the only one, right? She openly stated her pride in being Indian. In fact, I believe she was the first or one of the first Indian senators, right? Knowing that, and nothing more, how would anyone be expected to believe that she is black? Is Trump, or you, or me, or anyone for that matter supposed to know the heritage of everyone they encounter? 

 

Now, my turn. What do make of Kamala's obvious pandering to the black crowds in Chicago with her fake southern black accent and then reverting back to her California elite accent mere hours later at a different rally? Thoughts?

I don't get it, Big Dan.

Oh fuck all the way off. Blame the headline writers who made a big deal about her being the first Indian (India) to become a US Senator. She was not the first black female US senator so that wasn't the headline. I believe, however, she was the first black female US senator from California. Again, blame the media if you must. Harris has always embraced and been proud of both her black and Indian heritage. If you weren't stupidly listening to Candy Owens (Jesus, I can't believe I even typed that BTW), you might know she went to school at a HBCU and pledged the oldest black sorority in the US.

 

8 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Agreed. The DT is not sending us their best and brightest

Which one of those morons found their way over here? Is this one of Donkey's reincarnations/socks?

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4 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Diatribe.

Allwrongquin

Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

So you are a liar. I am also bi-racial! I am 1/128th Cherokee! I even have a card somewhere saying I am part of the Cherokee nation. You are a joke of a human and deserve what you sow.

Nah, I'm legitimately Native I just feel no need to produce any evidence to strangers on the internet. Congrats on being one of my kind though.

2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I've visited several of those countries and the people there tell me otherwise.

Too bad your experiences don't matter. Only data. And that's the data directly from AI that has no dog in this fight. Yall seem to love AI around here. Bask in it's truth.

 

Double post? 

7 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

You've never been closer to a Native than your high school textbooks and it shows. Natives are predominantly conservative. Well, what's left of us after your people committed mass genocide on mine you white man.

Other than my grandmother and my great uncle you’re correct

Oh and everyone I took care of during my residency. And my residency mates who made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer

 

Somebody drank their Milo today. 

1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Too bad your experiences don't matter. Only data. And that's the data directly from AI that has no dog in this fight. Yall seem to love AI around here. Bask in it's truth.

You get that I was parroting your take on knife and hammer violence, right? That was literally your rebuttal when presented with the facts proving you wrong. That you traveled there and people there told you it was happenign.

This surely is a bit.

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Harris has always embraced and been proud of both her black and Indian heritage.

Always? You've been following her since conception? Bravo.

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