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1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

I'll go against the internet mob mentality and say that I don't want Sark to leave. I'm hoping the absolute turmoil of this season (some, probably most, of it his own making) turns him into a better person and coach. I'm hoping he can self reflect and make the changes required of him both personally and professionally. 

 

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6 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Sark has done a wonderful job rebuilding the program and raising the floor. Short of a full on meltdown, he's certainly earned the rigt to lead the program and try to take that last step for the foreseeable future.

That said, to me it seems obvious his flaws as a coach will hold us back from going from the top 5-10 level squads he's put together the past couple years to winning a NC, and I think last year may be the closest we ever get to a SEC title under him too (very light 8 game league schedule that will never be replicated). If some NFL team wants to give us a get out of Sark free card and we have a chance to hire someone better suited for the task at hand now, which is different from the task at hand in 2021 when Sark was hired given the stateof the program, I'd bsolutely take that.

This happens all the time in sports, by the way. Richt to Smart for a potent CFB example. Some coaches are able to work bad teams into good or even very good ones but sometimes another coach is best suited to elevate a team to championship level.

Mack won because Vince. Ed won because Burrow. Chizik because with Cam.

There are only a handful of coaches who won because they are fucking amazing coaches. Saban, old Carroll, and anyone who who coaches at tOSU are the only few who fit that category.

Luck seems to be just as important as coaching acumen. 

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To whatever degree wikipedia can be trusted, which is oftent "not much" but in this case "probably", it's pretty clear Sark was the USC QB coach and Kiffin was the OC.  Play-calling duties are more of an unknown.  As noted above, Sark takes the blame for 4th and 2 but that doesn't mean much.

7 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Mack won because Vince. Ed won because Burrow. Chizik because with Cam.

There are only a handful of coaches who won because they are fucking amazing coaches. Saban, old Carroll, and anyone who who coaches at tOSU are the only few who fit that category.

Luck seems to be just as important as coaching acumen. 

Mack and VY is a great example of my point. Mack & staff recruited VY and ultimately made the decision to stop trying to force things and "let Vince be Vince," as has been repeated so often repeated over the years.

If Sark had a 20 year old VY on the roster, do you think he'd adapt and let Vince be Vince, or would he keep trying to fit a square peg in a round hole? We all know the answer because we've seen it and continue to see it.

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1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

I'll go against the internet mob mentality and say that I don't want Sark to leave. I'm hoping the absolute turmoil of this season (some, probably most, of it his own making) turns him into a better person and coach. I'm hoping he can self reflect and make the changes required of him both personally and professionally. 

 

Odds on this are similar to hitting a home run Yankee stadium with a toothpick. Sark needs to go. Team is a decent offensive play caller away from major improvement. 

2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Lost in all this is sexton and sark either really wanted to leave or were fishing for a raise and cdc said fuck off

How fucking delusional can you be expect a raise with how this season has unfolded? Fuck off is a gentle response to that absolutely absurd request. 

45 minutes ago, South Austin said:

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Are you familiar with Brisket's timeline? I'd say odds are greater that it happens than doesn't. Because of course.

There's a big difference between Sark leaving for a job in the NFL vs being fired. Seems like a lot of people on here want him fired, which is ridiculous for so many reasons. For the Texas football program going forward, Sark should not be fired based on his performance so far. But a lot of people are wondering what a different coach might be able to maximize from these players, which accomplishes the same thing without the downsides of firing Sark. 

20 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Mack won because Vince. Ed won because Burrow. Chizik because with Cam.

There are only a handful of coaches who won because they are fucking amazing coaches. Saban, old Carroll, and anyone who who coaches at tOSU are the only few who fit that category.

Luck seems to be just as important as coaching acumen. 

*Ed won because of Joe Brady. That same LSU team was average the year before until Joe Brady got there and unlocked the actual potential

21 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Mack won because Vince. Ed won because Burrow. Chizik because with Cam.

There are only a handful of coaches who won because they are fucking amazing coaches. Saban, old Carroll, and anyone who who coaches at tOSU are the only few who fit that category.

Luck seems to be just as important as coaching acumen. 

Luck is way more important than coaching acumen or skill.

I don’t want Sark fired. Not just because it pisses me off that people get paid generational life changing money to fuck off. He took a shit approach to the entire offseason imo and it’s shown itself to be 💯 true on the field. he has not as far as I know done anything to warrant being fired whatsoever. Unless he did nothing in the offseason and was waiting around for the call from the NFL. 
 

Also, Even if people don’t like or watch the NFL it doesn’t mean that Sark doesn’t want to go there. He’s said in black and white the NFL is the pinnacle of his profession.
 

I’m mad because he took a shit approach to the offseason. Things he had done up through January 2025 were WORKING and he chucked what was working and went with an NFL pro style offseason approach.

 

We have discussed painfully his play calling in that he won’t play to the strengths of what he has to unless forced. Like break glass in case of an emergency offense: see Mississippi State 4th Quarter. Dude is talented but he created a hole for the team before the season even started. Doesn’t mean we are not capable of winning out. And he will likely take his presser today to say “fuck all you gossips and haters and surly.” Fine. 
 

I do think all the major P5 schools need to meet and push back against these ridiculous fucked up contracts. Period. It is out of control. I hope Sark can use his “break glass only in case of emergency” offense the rest of the way forward. At the end of the day, I bleed burnt orange. I care about the school, the team and the players and winning. I am not tethered to a particular HC. I’m not ready to chuck his ass out but I’m also not ready to build his ass a statue either. 
 

If the NfL comes calling for the HC job he wants  it is my assumption he will take it. Fine. 
 

also, Coach O is awesome but it doesn’t mean I want that guy. He needs a nationally syndicated show so I can watch, be entertained and turn on my close captions and watch the close caption person give up when O starts talking and spit out “… uh …” on the screen. Because that is fun. 

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14 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

There's a big difference between Sark leaving for a job in the NFL vs being fired. Seems like a lot of people on here want him fired, which is ridiculous for so many reasons. 

I’m not sure that anyone here was considering that he should be fired until this huge distraction of a story broke the morning of a conference game when our team has not been playing well. 

17 minutes ago, Vertuzzi said:

How fucking delusional can you be expect a raise with how this season has unfolded? Fuck off is a gentle response to that absolutely absurd request. 

That’s not how people like sexton think. Chaos is his ladder.   Scare tactic. CDC seemingly called his bluff

37 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

Pretty sure CTJ isn’t going to let you fuck him up the ass, as that’s what a reach around implies. 

But, does @lilMAC25 have the goddam common courtesy to do that?

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2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

I’m not sure that anyone here was considering that he should be fired until this huge distraction of a story broke the morning of a conference game when our team has not been playing well. 

If sark doesn’t want to be here then yes fire him.  Otherwise, unless you can get someone like Cignetti or Meyer I’d rather stick it out with him.  

3 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

If sark doesn’t want to be here then yes fire him.  Otherwise, unless you can get someone like Cignetti or Meyer I’d rather stick it out with him.  

There aren’t many HCs or up and coming coordinators (both NFL and college) that seem like a sure thing to fill all these vacancies. Some may turn out to be magic and the rest duds. There just are not  a lot of sure things for all these spots. 

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21 minutes ago, Vertuzzi said:

How fucking delusional can you be expect a raise with how this season has unfolded? Fuck off is a gentle response to that absolutely absurd request. 

The delusion of a Blue Blood HC knows no bounds but this was more power related than money. There are no coincidences and timing lines up perfectly after everybody and their mom called for Sark to give up play calling duties. The threat from Sark/Sexton was to let him have total control or he has gonna take his ball and go to the NFL.  

7 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

He took a shit approach to the entire offseason imo and it’s shown itself to be 💯 true on the field. he has not as far as I know done anything to warrant being fired

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There are probably three things required of Sark at this point to rebuild his relationship with Surly. It has been rocky. He's gone from "he's a genius! did you see him scheme that Bama WR wide open on a LB!" to "he's a fucking loser" to "Sark's led us out of the desert to the playoffs!" to "seven win Steve rides again" to "he's the reason we got Arch!!!" to "he's the gotdamn reason we got dipshit Arch!!!".

To heal the current state of things, based on this 31 page thread, he needs to: (1) clarify whether he actually called the 4th down play in 2005 and/or whether as associate head coach he could have overridden Lane's call and didn't; so he regrets it because he called it or regrets it because he had authority to change the call and didn't, (2) clarify if anyone in his orbit reached out to NFL teams in an effort to leave after this season, and (3) provide a DNA test for this kid in question.

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2 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

The delusion of a Blue Blood HC knows no bounds but this was more power related than money. There are no coincidences and timing lines up perfectly after everybody and their mom called for Sark to give up play calling duties. The threat from Sark/Sexton was to let him have total control or he has gonna take his ball and go to the NFL.  

And that is/was a severe miscalculation. Going to OT with Kentucky and Mississippi State is an indictment of playcalling ability, not a validation of it. 

Sark is being paid tens of millions and his NIL support is top 5 in the country. Possibly better. 

Its not that his personal life might be affecting his job performance, its that it has already affected it so much we have wasted a season. Sometimes you don't have a choice but to change your scenery. Too much has happened off the field, he needs a new gig. 

15 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

That’s not how people like sexton think. Chaos is his ladder.   Scare tactic. CDC seemingly called his bluff

If CDC called his bluff, it's due to the fact CDC already has someone in mind to replace Sark.

Kind of like he did with Pierce  when he got Schloss.  It was in the  pipeline way before aggy made their trek to Omaha.  

The issue now is how the next four weeks play out and if that guy  CDC has in mind is being pursued now by LSU, Florida and Penn State.  Do we go 4-0 or 3-1 ( the loss is respectable against UGA) and all is forgiven?  Or do we get humiliated against Vandy and the fan base and some of the BMD's are fit to be tied followed by a whipping against UGA.   That would be the point of no return IMO.   

But CDC is not going to wait around.   He put a stop to  the bleeding with baseball and basketball before it became a major wound.  The football time table is much shorter.  

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1 minute ago, BlackCat said:

Sark is being paid tens of millions and his NIL support is top 5 in the country. Possibly better. 

Its not that his personal life might be affecting his job performance, its that it has already affected it so much we have wasted a season. Sometimes you don't have a choice but to change your scenery. Too much has happened off the field, he needs a new gig. 

and the replacement for Texas is?

This is NOT the year to join the let's find a head coach lottery. Way too many vacancies and only 2 or 3 viable candidates. 

Just now, crash_davis said:

and the replacement for Texas is?

This is NOT the year to join the let's find a head coach lottery. Way too many vacancies and only 2 or 3 viable candidates. 

Agreed, but Texas has not chosen this path. Whatever happens will have been forced upon us. 

10 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

There are probably three things required of Sark at this point to rebuild his relationship with Surly. It has been rocky. He's gone from "he's a genius! did you see him scheme that Bama WR wide open on a LB!" to "he's a fucking loser" to "Sark's led us out of the desert to the playoffs!" to "seven win Steve rides again" to "he's the reason we got Arch!!!" to "he's the gotdamn reason we got dipshit Arch!!!".

To heal the current state of things, based on this 31 page thread, he needs to: (1) clarify whether he actually called the 4th down play in 2005 and/or whether as associate head coach he could have overridden Lane's call and didn't; so he regrets it because he called it or regrets it because he had authority to change the call and didn't, (2) clarify if anyone in his orbit reached out to NFL teams in an effort to leave after this season, and (3) provide a DNA test for this kid in question.

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I will also accept win out before Thanksgiving.  Beat an undefeated Aggie at home.  Then win the SEC Championships (preferably also against Aggie).  

58 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

Pretty sure CTJ isn’t going to let you fuck him up the ass, as that’s what a reach around implies. 

Oh, I don’t wanna. There are plenty of folks who are into that (giving and receiving dude on dude), I’m saying “IF THAT IS WHAT IT TOOK TO MAKE IT HAPPEN”, I’ll take (give?) one for the team. 

Does Sark still have buy-in and good relationships with players, CDC, and donors? That's all that should really matter. 

If the answer is yes, no way we should fire him.

But if he wants to take another job, let him walk. 

 

36 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Luck is way more important than coaching acumen or skill.

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36 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

If sark doesn’t want to be here then yes fire him.  Otherwise, unless you can get someone like Cignetti or Meyer I’d rather stick it out with him.  

Cignetti is 64.  I think he might jump to an SEC offer but he might not want the headache.  These days if he can get in the playoff from the B1G it is probably an easier path.  He can be king of Indiana.  There are a bunch of schools in the B1G that probably aren't gonna pony up to buy a shit ton of football players with NIL.

16 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Does Sark still have buy-in and good relationships with players, CDC, and donors? That's all that should really matter. 

If the answer is yes, no way we should fire him.

But if he wants to take another job, let him walk. 

I wonder what his assistants were thinking when that report hit their phones. 

57 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I’m mad because he took a shit approach to the offseason. Things he had done up through January 2025 were WORKING and he chucked what was working and went with an NFL pro style offseason approach.

Assuming this is true, how did having a pro style offseason approach lead to the issues we are seeing with the team?

49 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

If CDC called his bluff, it's due to the fact CDC already has someone in mind to replace Sark.

Kind of like he did with Pierce  when he got Schloss.  It was in the  pipeline way before aggy made their trek to Omaha.  

The issue now is how the next four weeks play out and if that guy  CDC has in mind is being pursued now by LSU, Florida and Penn State.  Do we go 4-0 or 3-1 ( the loss is respectable against UGA) and all is forgiven?  Or do we get humiliated against Vandy and the fan base and some of the BMD's are fit to be tied followed by a whipping against UGA.   That would be the point of no return IMO.   

But CDC is not going to wait around.   He put a stop to  the bleeding with baseball and basketball before it became a major wound.  The football time table is much shorter.  

IMO, like Mack, CDC has a list of replacements for every position.  This isstill Texas, we can get someone great. 

 

I don't know about the Sark/CDC relationship.  I just know CDC is a shrewd motehrfucker who will not give in for the sake of good will.  Sark got a raise 8 months ago.  This was a BS move by him and Seton, if it was them.

48 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

and the replacement for Texas is?

This is NOT the year to join the let's find a head coach lottery. Way too many vacancies and only 2 or 3 viable candidates. 

Remember the last year we had to find a coach when LSU also was trying to find a coach? That was fun. 

5 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

Do you remember WHO he tried to hire as DC?

 

it would have been an abomination.

Oh, I member. Yes, I member very, very well. That should have been the red flag that he was going to fuck something up, or let his ineptitude slip some more. 

54 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

and the replacement for Texas is?

This is NOT the year to join the let's find a head coach lottery. Way too many vacancies and only 2 or 3 viable candidates. 

If Texas is Texas like we say it is then it shouldn’t fucking matter what jobs are open. 

15 hours ago, Earl Haffler said:

At least we have BK in the wings if Sark jumps.

If we have BK in the wings and Sark jumps, all that leaves us with is a dead body and a guy who kills kids. 

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If Texas is Texas like we say it is then it shouldn’t fucking matter what jobs are open. 

LOL. Besides Mack and Sark, how many coaches has Texas had since Royal? How did they fare? 

Sark was an OC from Bama. Let's not act like our swinging dick can get anyone we want and that person will take over without skipping a beat. History says otherwise.

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Luck recruiting is way more important than coaching acumen or skill.

 

2 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

LOL. Besides Mack and Sark, how many coaches has Texas had since Royal? How did they fare? 

Sark was an OC from Bama. Let's not act like our swinging dick can get anyone we want and that person will take over without skipping a beat. History says otherwise.

Well that’s the problem then. We need to find a solution so actually swing our giant dick rather than just keeping it tucked between our legs. 

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

If Texas is Texas like we say it is then it shouldn’t fucking matter what jobs are open. 

I 2nd this. No coach is licking their chops to coach at this version of Florida. Results aside Herman was getting any job he wanted in 2017 and would have went to LSU if we didn't come in. 

Secondly no other program ever got close to hiring Saban away from Alabama except for Texas. Same with Meyer almost pulling Meyer from retirement in 21. 

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We need to find a solution so actually swing our giant dick rather than just keeping it tucked between our legs. 

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Given the timing, I have great doubt this was a Sexton thing.  That being said, if it came out that the Texas job was opening, teams would definitely start overpaying to lock up hires.

4 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

I 2nd this. No coach is licking their chops to coach at this version of Florida. Results aside Herman was getting any job he wanted in 2017 and would have went to LSU if we didn't come in. 

Secondly no other program ever got close to hiring Saban away from Alabama except for Texas. Same with Meyer almost pulling Meyer from retirement in 21. 

Congrats to us, we got or almost got a guy everyone wanted. Again, how'd that turn out?

Except for tOSU and maybe Bama after Saban, every school wanders the desert of shittiness for awhile until they get lucky with a coach. 

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On 10/25/2025 at 1:14 PM, boilerhorn said:

Well, there's enough of a sideshow that just about every possible outcome today would be unsurprising.

I was pretty surprised.

We're Texas! We almost got a coach that other people also did not get but at least we got close!

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

We're Texas! We almost got a coach that other people also did not get but at least we got close!

...and we still sucked.

4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

We're Texas! We almost got a coach that other people also did not get but at least we got close!

close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and college football!

1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

I don’t want Sark fired. Not just because it pisses me off that people get paid generational life changing money to fuck off. He took a shit approach to the entire offseason imo and it’s shown itself to be 💯 true on the field. he has not as far as I know done anything to warrant being fired whatsoever. Unless he did nothing in the offseason and was waiting around for the call from the NFL. 
 

Also, Even if people don’t like or watch the NFL it doesn’t mean that Sark doesn’t want to go there. He’s said in black and white the NFL is the pinnacle of his profession.
 

I’m mad because he took a shit approach to the offseason. Things he had done up through January 2025 were WORKING and he chucked what was working and went with an NFL pro style offseason approach.

 

We have discussed painfully his play calling in that he won’t play to the strengths of what he has to unless forced. Like break glass in case of an emergency offense: see Mississippi State 4th Quarter. Dude is talented but he created a hole for the team before the season even started. Doesn’t mean we are not capable of winning out. And he will likely take his presser today to say “fuck all you gossips and haters and surly.” Fine. 
 

I do think all the major P5 schools need to meet and push back against these ridiculous fucked up contracts. Period. It is out of control. I hope Sark can use his “break glass only in case of emergency” offense the rest of the way forward. At the end of the day, I bleed burnt orange. I care about the school, the team and the players and winning. I am not tethered to a particular HC. I’m not ready to chuck his ass out but I’m also not ready to build his ass a statue either. 
 

If the NfL comes calling for the HC job he wants  it is my assumption he will take it. Fine. 
 

also, Coach O is awesome but it doesn’t mean I want that guy. He needs a nationally syndicated show so I can watch, be entertained and turn on my close captions and watch the close caption person give up when O starts talking and spit out “… uh …” on the screen. Because that is fun. 

at texas having a wife who embarrasses you and the university and if he went to rehab then the reason for that make two fireable offenses based on the Texas standard. so I'm curious if you stand by your statement that he hasn't done something worthy of being fired?

These schools need to think outside the box when hiring talent.  Go find the best EA Sports CFB guy and hire him.  Just call great plays and delegate the rest to GA's.

1 hour ago, gernblansten said:

There are probably three things required of Sark at this point to rebuild his relationship with Surly. It has been rocky. He's gone from "he's a genius! did you see him scheme that Bama WR wide open on a LB!" to "he's a fucking loser" to "Sark's led us out of the desert to the playoffs!" to "seven win Steve rides again" to "he's the reason we got Arch!!!" to "he's the gotdamn reason we got dipshit Arch!!!".

To heal the current state of things, based on this 31 page thread, he needs to: (1) clarify whether he actually called the 4th down play in 2005 and/or whether as associate head coach he could have overridden Lane's call and didn't; so he regrets it because he called it or regrets it because he had authority to change the call and didn't, (2) clarify if anyone in his orbit reached out to NFL teams in an effort to leave after this season, and (3) provide a DNA test for this kid in question.

YARN | Let's let the healing begin | Good Will Hunting (1997 ...  

and verify where he was for 30 days when he was absent from junior day with receipts, gps coordinates and a lie detector test.  oh, add a hair follicle test too. 

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