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3 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

It wouldn't be terribly surprising if his bench numbers have dropped due to him cutting weight. 

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4 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

That is surprisingly low. They way he trucks dudes I figured 20+.

His arms are toothpicks and not much bulk in his upper body, so that’s about what I would have picked for him. He just knows how to use the size/height he has and plays like a 230 lb RB. 

4 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

That is surprisingly low. They way he trucks dudes I figured 20+.

I mean trucking dudes has literally nothing to Dow with how much a guy benches. Bench is a fairly useless metric for a wr. I doubt any DBs will have success trying to jam him regardless.

1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

I mean trucking dudes has literally nothing to Dow with how much a guy benches. Bench is a fairly useless metric for a wr. I doubt any DBs will have success trying to jam him regardless.

It’s a pretty good barometer of overall upper body strength.

58 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

It’s a pretty good barometer of overall upper body strength.

The bench has very little application to his position.

LJH has never had trouble with getting jammed at the LOS or blocking, so his bench really doesn’t matter much. Especially since he posted 13. If he posted like 4, it could be an issue. And it has absolutely nothing to do with trucking people. 

Am I the only one surprised he was able to do 13 reps? His arms don't have much bulk or definition at all. Doesn't mean he's not a great football player.

Never said he wasn’t great. Never said he won’t be good at the next level. I was surprised that he didn’t put up more RB like numbers on bench. That’s all.

4 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

Never said he wasn’t great. Never said he won’t be good at the next level. I was surprised that he didn’t put up more RB like numbers on bench. That’s all.

I’m not.  He’s a wide receiver and hasn’t played running back since high school.  Hopefully that clears things up for you.

6 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

Never said he wasn’t great. Never said he won’t be good at the next level. I was surprised that he didn’t put up more RB like numbers on bench. That’s all.

I’m not.  He’s a wide receiver and hasn’t played running back since high school.  Hopefully that clears things up for you.

11 minutes ago, GlenFromTheMailRoom said:

I’m not.  He’s a wide receiver and hasn’t played running back since high school.  Hopefully that clears things up for you.

Let me clear this up for you. He took direct snaps at the goal line and excelled. I and many others were surprised that he is barely stronger than me at bench press.

#uradouche

Let me clear this up for you. I drive a truck. I have long arms. I fucked your mom on a bench. And it wasn’t hard. 

16 minutes ago, 4th and 5 said:

Let me clear this up for you. I drive a truck. I have long arms. I fucked your mom on a bench. And it wasn’t hard

Then I doubt you fucked her.

Then I doubt you fucked her.

He meant his dick. The bitch is fucking nasty.
7 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

Let me clear this up for you. He took direct snaps at the goal line and excelled. I and many others were surprised that he is barely stronger than me at bench press.

#uradouche

I mean I get what you’re trying to say, but having a strong bench has nothing to do with being effective at taking goal line direct snaps. Lower body strength, sure. But not bench. It’s one thing to be surprised at the number. But bench is irrelevant in your example. 

7 hours ago, NoRagrets said:

Let me clear this up for you. He took direct snaps at the goal line and excelled. I and many others were surprised that he is barely stronger than me at bench press.

#uradouche

Lol. Your assumed correlation between taking goal line runs/trucking guys and bench press is what’s got everyone confused. Running hard/trucking people has almost nothing to do with how much a guy benches. That all comes from the lower body.

On 3/1/2019 at 12:10 AM, Catdaddyhorn said:

Not to mention these measurements are without shoes on. He's essentially a 6'5" WR on the field. 

Well then, if Kyler Murray is 5’10” in his bare feet , then he’s 6’1” with his elevator cleats on the field.

4 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Well then, if Kyler Murray is 5’10” in his bare feet , then he’s 6’1” with his elevator cleats on the field.

How tall are you in your stilletos?

Damn, that’s a lil’slower than expected 

Edited by Nope

Yea he’s not moving up the draft today like he thought, should of came back and had a monster year and he would of made more money..  I also say this for selfish reasons lol

LJH looked down after running the poor times in the 40....

Hope he can turn it around in other drills... Might still be a 5th or 6th rounder and gets picked by a quality team with great WR/TE coaches.... Sometimes a player's career is better when drafted lower if they go to the right team.

Just now, tx 3 putt said:

is he headed to UFA ?

 

I think he'll get a Day 3 if he performs well in drills and puts up a good shuttle time. He'll need to have a great Pro Day as well.

I expected a high 4.6 at his playing weight. He slimmed down and pretty much ran a 4.8. He's definitely a day 3 guy now.

He's gonna have to pull a sub 4 shuttle to even have day 2 be a possibility.

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

I expected a high 4.6 at his playing weight. He slimmed down and pretty much ran a 4.8. He's definitely a day 3 guy now.

He's gonna have to pull a sub 4 shuttle to even have day 2 be a possibility.

Day 3 maybe 5th Rd at best...... crazy to think, but LJH could go undrafted

Edited by LTtxfan

Speed and strength have never been his game. Effort is what he’s about. Hopefully he gets a shot on a decent team. 

9 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

very poor pre draft training ?

Well... he was slow before the season, he was slow during the season, so I'm not totally shocked that he's still slow. 

I figured he could break 4.7 but I don't think he was any faster during the season than he was today. I can't think of any DBs he outran to a spot in 2019. 

1 minute ago, Magus Ossis said:

Very late pick by Pats or UFA imo.

Agree with your assessment.... Just please not the Patriots...

the bright side is that a guy with that speed can dominate in our offense.

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Well... he was slow before the season, he was slow during the season, so I'm not totally shocked that he's still slow. 

I figured he could break 4.7 but I don't think he was any faster during the season than he was today. I can't think of any DBs he outran to a spot in 2019. 

He didn't play at 210 at Texas though.

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