November 26Nov 26 Damn that is a big fire. HONG KONG (AP) — A fire spread across seven high-rise apartment buildings in a Hong Kong housing complex, killing 13 people and leaving others still trapped, in the city’s worst blaze in years. Nine people were declared dead at the scene and four others who were sent to the hospital were later confirmed dead, authorities told reporters. At least 15 others were injured, and about 700 people have been evacuated to temporary shelters. The raging fire sent up a column of flames and thick smoke as it spread quickly on bamboo scaffolding and construction netting that had been set up around the exterior of the housing complex in Tai Po district, in the New Territories. Records show the housing complex consisted of eight buildings with almost 2,000 apartments housing about 4,800 people. AP Live. https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-highrise-fire-tai-po-cf40065101b2b6f8ac7bc43d9f228022
November 26Nov 26 Oh-ho-ho-ho Oh-ho-ho-ho Everybody was firefighting Those flames were fast as lightning In fact, it was a little bit frightening
November 26Nov 26 Well, I'm sure Hong Kong has the most up-to-date and safety-oriented building codes, so this could have been much worse.
November 26Nov 26 4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said: Well, I'm sure Hong Kong has the most up-to-date and safety-oriented building codes, so this could have been much worse. Spoiler
November 26Nov 26 Author 36 confirmed deaths. Over 250 missing per CNN. More from BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2emg1kj1klt Edited November 26Nov 26 by InkaUtexas
November 26Nov 26 2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said: Bamboo scaffolding seems .. unwise. It is favored in India too. Pics from my personal experience.
November 26Nov 26 2 hours ago, The Ace of Aces said: Bamboo scaffolding seems .. unwise. Only ever had a one-night layover in HK but that shit is everywhere in Thailand too. I wouldn't want to have to trust it.
November 26Nov 26 Just now, Jimbaround said: Bamboo is actually very strong, but the problem comes when they use old bamboo.
November 26Nov 26 Author 4 hours ago, InkaUtexas said: 36 confirmed deaths. Over 250 missing per CNN. More from BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2emg1kj1klt 44. 279 missing per BBC update.
November 26Nov 26 2 minutes ago, Jimbaround said: Bamboo is actually very strong, but the problem comes when they use old bamboo. more flammable than steel though /noalexjones https://www.reuters.com/world/china/hong-kong-inferno-puts-spotlight-risky-bamboo-scaffolding-2025-11-26/
November 27Nov 27 14 hours ago, InkaUtexas said: 44. 279 missing per BBC update. What do you think is the potential for this to spread into civil unrest?
November 27Nov 27 About as much as the last two times it happened there. Or when it happened in England. And again in Dubai. And again in China. And in Taiwan.
November 27Nov 27 Author 1 hour ago, KYHorn said: What do you think is the potential for this to spread into civil unrest? There will be inquiries, some will get punished, etc, but nothing major. Three execs from the maintenance company already under arrest and finger pointing has begun. Scaffolding caught fire, the netting was not fire retardant, and there was Styrofoam being used to install new windows. Death toll over 65, almost 300 still missing. This according to the BBC. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2emg1kj1klt
November 27Nov 27 16 hours ago, Jimbaround said: Bamboo is actually very strong, but the problem comes when they use old bamboo. My old wood is also a problem.
November 27Nov 27 As much polluting as they do, they can't produce metal scaffolding? What's a few more emissions if it means residential towers won't burn? Reads like they expect some sort of fire rating on bamboo, which im sure it does when its just cut, they could soak it in fire retardant, but by the time you get into that and all the other safety issues, wouldn't you rather burn some coal and spit out some metal? Looks like they arrested the cleaning staff at the construction co. Headquarters. Problem solved, everyone go home.
November 28Nov 28 9 hours ago, Dewey said: As much polluting as they do, they can't produce metal scaffolding? What's a few more emissions if it means residential towers won't burn? Reads like they expect some sort of fire rating on bamboo, which im sure it does when its just cut, they could soak it in fire retardant, but by the time you get into that and all the other safety issues, wouldn't you rather burn some coal and spit out some metal? Looks like they arrested the cleaning staff at the construction co. Headquarters. Problem solved, everyone go home. They don't care about pollution, or worker safety, or really much else except the cheapest possible option.
November 28Nov 28 Author Hong Kong — The number of people killed in the devastating Hong Kong apartment complex fire has risen to 128 with as many as 200 missing, officials said Friday, as authorities announced eight more arrests over the blaze.
November 28Nov 28 Author It gets worse. WTF? There will be some public executions. It is China. Fire alarms in all eight buildings of the complex were “not functional,” officials found during inspections carried out after the blaze, according to Director of Fire Services Andy Yeung. It was not clear if the alarm system was operational on the day of the fire, though residents previously told CNN their building alarm did not ring. https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/28/asia/hong-kong-fire-toll-intl-hnk
November 30Nov 30 I wonder if this is somehow related to Hong Kong's upcoming elections. It was just a few years ago they banned and arrested all pro-democracy candidates and made it so only those aligned with Beijing could run for office.
November 30Nov 30 I’m not a student on geopolitical happenings, but I am on fire behavior, building construction, and all things previous history with regards to significant conflagrations. This is quite par for the course in just about everywhere outside of the US, Canada, and to a lesser degree England. I wouldn’t put much into an idea that this was anything other than multiple entities cutting corners and having finally catch up to them.
December 1Dec 1 Author HONG KONG (AP) — The death toll in Hong Kong’s apartment complex blaze rose to 146 on Sunday as investigators discovered more bodies in the burned-out buildings. A steady stream of people placed bouquets of flowers at an ever-growing makeshift memorial at the scene of the disaster, among the worst in the city’s history. https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-apartment-complex-fire-9b466e2965d71cc21fe3bce5ad863f74
December 2Dec 2 On 11/27/2025 at 8:57 AM, miguelito said: Incredible picture: It's incredible that "only" 146 people have been declared dead. That looks horrible and nightmarish. Just awful.
December 3Dec 3 Author A 1-year-old was among 159 killed in Hong Kong apartment fires. 30 others remain missing https://apnews.com/article/hong-kong-tai-po-fire-highrise-a82446d3ade61c71c1915f29d89cb35c HONG KONG (AP) — The death toll of Hong Kong’s high-rise apartment blaze rose to 159 on Wednesday, as authorities arrested six people on suspicion of deactivating some fire alarms during maintenance work at the housing complex. In addition to the scaffolding issue, residents and officials have said that some fire alarms in the buildings failed to sound when the fire broke out, though it was not clear how widespread that problem was within the complex. Police said Wednesday that six people who allegedly deactivated some fire alarms at the housing complex during the renovation works were arrested on suspicion of making false representation to the fire services department.
December 3Dec 3 On 11/30/2025 at 5:09 PM, Herbie Hancock said: I’m not a student on geopolitical happenings, but I am on fire behavior, building construction, and all things previous history with regards to significant conflagrations. This is quite par for the course in just about everywhere outside of the US, Canada, and to a lesser degree England. I wouldn’t put much into an idea that this was anything other than multiple entities cutting corners and having finally catch up to them. Americans don’t realize just how cheap life is elsewhere
December 3Dec 3 4 minutes ago, bullzak said: Americans don’t realize just how cheap life is elsewhere We don't have to look far to see the Aggie CEO of Blue Bell knowingly selling listeria tainted ice cream to hospitals.
December 3Dec 3 33 minutes ago, bullzak said: Americans don’t realize just how cheap life is elsewhere 100%. Specifically in China and India. I was in Hong Kong about 12 years ago, and was in a very nice hotel on the 87th floor, I had a great view of the city. Right across from me were workers building an even taller high rise, and they had bamboo scaffolding going all the way to the top. I asked some of the team I was consulting with: "that looks dangerous, is that stable, do the lashings break and have people ever fallen?" and their response was shocking to me. They said: "Oh yeah, all the time. Every week a couple of the workers fall to their deaths, but it's no big deal. We just get a few more (Chinese) mainlanders, they're lined up to come to Hong Kong." When I consulted in India, I was in an all-day meeting in a conference room. They had a guy dedicated to holding the door to the meeting room open. That was his job. All day, the whole day, holding the door open, to a meeting room mind you not like the doorman at the front of the building or anything. I asked about it later and the manager joked it was cheaper than buying a doorstop. I think about these experiences often and how thankful I am to be born and live in the U.S. We bitch and moan about stuff here but we have it so, so, so much better than 99.99999% of the world. They'd feel rich on 2% of our income.
December 3Dec 3 When we lived in the Taipei, Taiwan metro area during the late 1950s, several times we saw dead bodies under grass mats on the side of the road….obviously someone run over by a vehicle. Dad’s liaison officer explained matter-of-factly that the body would lay there until the family came to claim it. Edited December 3Dec 3 by Armybrat
December 3Dec 3 3 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said: asked about it later and the manager joked it was cheaper than buying a doorstop.
December 3Dec 3 4 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said: When I consulted in India, I was in an all-day meeting in a conference room. They had a guy dedicated to holding the door to the meeting room open. That was his job. All day, the whole day, holding the door open, to a meeting room mind you not like the doorman at the front of the building or anything. I asked about it later and the manager joked it was cheaper than buying a doorstop. Yep. "underemployment" is the term. When I was in India years back I had an entire entourage. I had like 6-7 people. Carrying bags. Holding doors. Unpacking clothes. Checking you in to your room in the actual room. The hotels were as opulent as I've ever stayed in. Get a few hundred yards from the hotel, and there's a dude with no legs begging for scraps.
December 3Dec 3 4 hours ago, bullzak said: Americans don’t realize just how cheap life is elsewhere Gary Glitter did. But he’s not American.
December 4Dec 4 16 hours ago, BabaYaga said: Yep. "underemployment" is the term. When I was in India years back I had an entire entourage. I had like 6-7 people. Carrying bags. Holding doors. Unpacking clothes. Checking you in to your room in the actual room. The hotels were as opulent as I've ever stayed in. Get a few hundred yards from the hotel, and there's a dude with no legs begging for scraps. The company I was working with put me up at a place called the Leela Palace. I think it was literally an old palace...several acres of compound ringed by 30 foot stone walls. Every day I was picked up by a driver to take me across town to the client. Just like you said, as soon as you pulled out of the compound and drove a quarter mile, there was a square city block of burning trash. That thing was on fire the entire week I was there, just smoldering. 😳
December 4Dec 4 Few pics I took when I was in HK back in 2012-ish. Not sure if same place as burned, but looks like it.
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