September 24, 20187 yr We have now had our 3rd dishwasher fail on us. Our fault for going cheap. Whirlpool motherboard and heating element shot. Repair guy said they are notorious for failing in less than 5 years. What ever happened to the ones we grew up with? I think my parents dishwasher lasted over 20 years. I don't want to spend over $1,000, but I do want one that will last, and that I can stick truly dirty dishes into and they will come out clean.
September 24, 20187 yr Have a Kitchen Aid Supurba that has held up for 12 or so years with no maint. It was sorta "big-box high end" when I got it, but IDK anything about how they are made today. GL!
September 24, 20187 yr My Bosch has been great. Its 4 years old with no issues. Runs very quiet. Im probably now screwed.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
September 24, 20187 yr I've got a KitchenAid at the house and a Bosch in my deer camp trailer. Both are quiet and have had no problems in 10 years. The KitchenAid is a little quieter.
September 24, 20187 yr What ever happened to the ones we grew up with? I think my parents dishwasher lasted over 20 years....A confluence of: new business theories of Planned Obsolescence, Chinese manufacturing, Gub’mint energy efficiency standards, EPA taking phosphates out of detergent (iirc). We wore a mid/high level GE out in 4 years, and it didn’t clean great. Went with high end Kitchen Aid (has motorized nozzle system) about 3 years ago and it cleans really well, no problems. Also, you have to use the good detergent in the little packets, the big box of cascade sucks since they took the phosphates out.
September 24, 20187 yr We just replaced ours 2 weeks ago. The Kitchen Aid units have been ranked tops in consumer surveys for a couple years. We had 2, and were never happy, but those were bought 10 years ago. We just bought a Bosch. Miele and Bosch are the industry leaders from all the research I just did. In the end I basically flipped a coin. Both are neck and neck in terms of cleaning, reliability and quiet operation. That was refelected in at least 4 online sources. You can not hear the Bosch running unless you stand right over it. They have a nice little feature: A small orange light appears on the floor while its running. Installed for less than a grand from Lowes, and they took the old one away. Not their top of the line model, but right there. Edited September 24, 20187 yr by Onboard 2.0
September 24, 20187 yr Author The repair guy said Bosch had the best long-term reliability. Will investigate.
September 24, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said: The repair guy said Bosch had the best long-term reliability. Will investigate. The guy who installed ours said he's had a Bosch for 10 years, and wouldn't buy another brand.
September 24, 20187 yr I have a new whirlpool that is super quiet. I can’t hear it running standing right in front of it. The cycle time is very long though. Like almost 2 hours
September 24, 20187 yr One year into Bosch 800 series. Been great so far and virtually silent. Tons of space. Only negative I’ve heard is the ones with a protruding handle instead of built in one is that the protruding handle can be knocked loose.
September 24, 20187 yr Just now, ChickenSandwich said: One year into Bosch 800 series. Been great so far and virtually silent. Tons of space. Only negative I’ve heard is the ones with a protruding handle instead of built in one is that the protruding handle can be knocked loose. Yeah, I'd rather it be a slimmer closer fitting hand, but then the panel would get scratched up by rings.
September 24, 20187 yr 9 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said: Yeah, I'd rather it be a slimmer closer fitting hand, You talking about hand-os?
September 24, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, deadshank said: You talking about hand-os? I'm married 30 years, Talk is about all I can do about hand-os...unless it's self inflicted....
September 24, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, Errestaurants said: My Bosch has been great. Its 4 years old with no issues. Runs very quiet. Im probably now screwed. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk I second this
September 25, 20187 yr We just replaced ours 2 weeks ago. The Kitchen Aid units have been ranked tops in consumer surveys for a couple years. We had 2, and were never happy, but those were bought 10 years ago. We just bought a Bosch. Miele and Bosch are the industry leaders from all the research I just did. In the end I basically flipped a coin. Both are neck and neck in terms of cleaning, reliability and quiet operation. That was refelected in at least 4 online sources. You can not hear the Bosch running unless you stand right over it. They have a nice little feature: A small orange light appears on the floor while its running. Installed for less than a grand from Lowes, and they took the old one away. Not their top of the line model, but right there.Similar story, similar choice. Very happy with choice. My brother had had the same (Bosch) dishwasher for several years, no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
September 25, 20187 yr 14 hours ago, Godzillatron said: Similar story, similar choice. Very happy with choice. My brother had had the same (Bosch) dishwasher for several years, no issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, our Bosch has been great and quiet.
September 25, 20187 yr Bosch or KitchenAid. Grab your ankles and get a higher end one. Silence is worth the money.
September 25, 20187 yr 18 minutes ago, luke duke said: Bosch or KitchenAid. Grab your ankles and get a higher end one. Silence is worth the money. Seriously, it is amazing going from a noise monster in the kitchen to absolute silence. Use to be I had to turn the TV up in the living room whenever we ran the dish washer. Now, I can be standing in complete silence at the kitchen counter and not hear the damn thing. Edited September 25, 20187 yr by Dahobbs
September 25, 20187 yr we bought a kenmore elite about 5 years ago, and the only problem we had was with the drain pump. easy fix. it's probably a rebranded lg. very silent and was a few hundred less than a smaller capacity bosch. will it last 20 years? we'll never know since the wife will probably want to redo the kitchen yet again.
September 25, 20187 yr OK, while we are on the topic. I hear people say they can put dishes in without rinsing and they are fully clean after the dishwasher runs. Is that an actual thing? I am OCD about rinsing and loading the dishwasher. Do people really NOT rinse dishes before putting in the dishwasher. If so, do they really come out spotless?
September 25, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, orange dream said: OK, while we are on the topic. I hear people say they can put dishes in without rinsing and they are fully clean after the dishwasher runs. Is that an actual thing? I am OCD about rinsing and loading the dishwasher. Do people really NOT rinse dishes before putting in the dishwasher. If so, do they really come out spotless? I always give it a quick rinse. The wife puts it in there with half a pork chop sticking out of the mashed potatoes. Edited September 25, 20187 yr by Onboard 2.0
September 25, 20187 yr The repair guy said Bosch had the best long-term reliability. Will investigate.I don’t think they have heating elements FYI. We’ve had KA in our last two houses with good results. Although it’s technically whirlpool so there’s that.
September 25, 20187 yr 56 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said: I always give it a quick rinse. The wife puts it in there with half a pork chop sticking out of the mashed potatoes. You oughta see the pork I put in your wife
September 25, 20187 yr 48 minutes ago, HiggyBaby said: I don’t think they have heating elements FYI. We’ve had KA in our last two houses with good results. Although it’s technically whirlpool so there’s that. Bosch's doesn't have a heating element for drying. But they do have a heating system for the water. That is partly how they dry the dishes (super heat the water for last rinse and let it air dry basically). https://www.bosch-home.com/us/experience-bosch/tips-and-tricks/frequently_asked_questions_answered Edited September 25, 20187 yr by Dahobbs
September 26, 20187 yr 32 minutes ago, dcbc said: Eleven years and counting on a mid grade Whirlpool. No issues. Till tomorrow.........
September 26, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said: Till tomorrow......... It was pretty cheap. Every day is a gift.
September 26, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, 52-80 said: Go Miele or go Home. Bosch is okay too Based on what I've just finished researching, it's a coin flip on those two brands.
September 26, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said: Based on what I've just finished researching, it's a coin flip on those two brands. for most consumer goods, bosch plays at the low, mid, and high end, whereas miele is almost exclusively high end. bosch is also a part of a conglomerate along with siemens, neff, thermador, so there are r&d and manufacturing sharing with those brands and probably more for partnerships/co-branding. miele remains private and is mostly, if not solely, produced in germany
September 26, 20187 yr I always give it a quick rinse. The wife puts it in there with half a pork chop sticking out of the mashed potatoes. If it’s going to be that kind of party...
September 26, 20187 yr Just now, luke duke said: If it’s going to be that kind of party... It reads a bit porno centric.....for sure
September 26, 20187 yr Based on what I've just finished researching, it's a coin flip on those two brands.I've had both and they are comparable. Both extremely quiet.
September 29, 20187 yr Doesn’t matter what you get. You’ll still get bitched at for loading it wrong.
April 8, 20196 yr bump - old frigidaire that was in the house when I bought it bit the dust. Looks like I'm probably getting a Bosch. Should I just buy from one of the big box stores and have them install, or has anyone had a particularly good experience with anywhere particular in Austin (78745)?
April 8, 20196 yr We love our Jenn Air. Really quiet and does a great job. I will be replacing the door on it, though. My youngest fell on the open door today and bent it so it no longer closes. Little fucker.
April 9, 20196 yr I bought a Bosch at Lowe’s last month. It’s terrific. I especially like the 1 hr wash cycle. My old LG took over two hours to run. This bosch gets them perfectly clean in one hour. I installed myself.
April 9, 20196 yr Looks like Bosch currently has a rebate with Lowe's for the cost of installation for an 800 series. Thinking that is my huckleberry.
April 9, 20196 yr Author We ended up getting this KitchenAid one and it looks like it's on a pretty good sale at Best Buy. We really like it. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/kitchenaid-24-built-in-dishwasher-stainless-steel/6005004.p?skuId=6005004&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=137&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1260669&ds_rl=1266837&ds_rl=1268709&ref=30&loc=KW-4319&ds_rl=1273104&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4qvlBRDiARIsAHme6otELACDHbyh0ciC8RDEZxRiE55e3aWUeNp_GT5wgqIlQGlUBcErM4EaAu6LEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
April 9, 20196 yr We ended up getting this KitchenAid one and it looks like it's on a pretty good sale at Best Buy. We really like it.https://www.bestbuy.com/site/kitchenaid-24-built-in-dishwasher-stainless-steel/6005004.p?skuId=6005004&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=137&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1260669&ds_rl=1266837&ds_rl=1268709&ref=30&loc=KW-4319&ds_rl=1273104&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4qvlBRDiARIsAHme6otELACDHbyh0ciC8RDEZxRiE55e3aWUeNp_GT5wgqIlQGlUBcErM4EaAu6LEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.dsYou gonna shitcan that when you remodel?
April 9, 20196 yr Looks like Bosch currently has a rebate with Lowe's for the cost of installation for an 800 series. Thinking that is my huckleberry.Damn you really are married.
April 9, 20196 yr We bought a Bosch recently that has the timelight feature. It projects on the floor the time remaining in the cycle and the part of the cycle it is in (wash, rinse, dry, etc.). Thing is so quiet that without that it is tough to know if it is on or not.
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