December 17Dec 17 53 minutes ago, lazygringo said: Mosley and Livingstone are a wash. Not overly impressed with either. Moore was not 100% and seldom-used until our offensive explosion in the SHSU game. He averaged 3 catches for 44 yards on the year. He will be missed dearly.
December 17Dec 17 2 hours ago, lazygringo said: People forget how horrid our offense was until Deandre Moore returned and started bailing Arch out on drives. He catches nearly everything, plays very smooth, and keeps the chains moving. I don't give a shit what he's like off the football field. He was the glue guy when we needed it most this season. Pretty sure Moore did have a concussion early in the season then missed the following game. I'm too lazy to look up game threads but people were happy he was back when he made a tough catch to give Arch confidence despite the poor throw. Hate that this forum craps on any player as soon as they leave and all of sudden the player is a diva and worthless. Just found an article about his return game. https://ontexasfootball.com/news/articles/deandre-moore-jrs-return-from-injury-has-injected-texas-with-confidence-energy-on-offense-r2429/
December 17Dec 17 Popular Post Y'all turning on a very solid player for us simply because he's declaring for the draft is not a good look. We should want the best for him.
December 17Dec 17 11 hours ago, horn4life said: I always wonder what makes kids try to go pro a year too soon? Who is in their ear telling them a pretty decent season in college, is what NFL scouts have a difficult time finding? Did Moore make some clutch catches this year? Yep sure did. But Enough to make real bank in the NFL? Probably not, unfortunately. Then I think about two things. 1) Moore is already getting a decent check at Texas. 2) A season with a more seasoned QB a nd another year of development might get top NFL money, (If you can ball out like an NFL player in college) With NIL I understand less and less jumping a year too soon. And truly wonder which Uncle, mom, brother, sister, cousin, girlfriend, mistress, wife, MIL, SIL, BIL thinks they can get some of your NFL money, who is advising you on jumping to the NFL? Moore didn't come here to play no skool
December 17Dec 17 15 minutes ago, 6th Street said: That doofus almost cost us the Kentucky game by running out of bounds That was Kwame Cavil dummy
December 17Dec 17 8 minutes ago, lazygringo said: Y'all turning on a very solid player for us simply because he's declaring for the draft is not a good look.
December 17Dec 17 11 minutes ago, GTJ1982 said: Pretty sure Moore did have a concussion early in the season then missed the following game. I'm too lazy to look up game threads but people were happy he was back when he made a tough catch to give Arch confidence despite the poor throw. Hate that this forum craps on any player as soon as they leave and all of sudden the player is a diva and worthless. Just found an article about his return game. https://ontexasfootball.com/news/articles/deandre-moore-jrs-return-from-injury-has-injected-texas-with-confidence-energy-on-offense-r2429/ That’s great, but it a contemporaneously written article about how his return lifted up the offense against Sam Houston State. He was healthy for the rest of the year, did the offense (specifically the wrs) keep that momentum going for the rest of the year, buoyed by his presence back in the room? No, no they did not. Truth is we would have dog walked Sam with or without him. And to be clear, many in the fan base were crapping on him well before he left. He got plenty of crap for his late in the offseason renegotiation that was mainly based on his status as the only experienced returning WR and not on being any type of special talent. The season certainly showed that he’s not that.
December 17Dec 17 Author 2 hours ago, lazygringo said: Moore is definitely not day 1 pick but should go late on day 2 or early on day 3. Moore if goes to NFL now is maybe late Day 3 or more likely UFA... He better wise up and find another college gig for 2026. Btw I also previously heard the same 2025 NIL crap Moore pulled as mentioned above by @someguy (Moore threatened to transfer near the end of the portal window last year and leveraged a pay bump) I'm glad Texas didn't elect to have Moore return for 2026 -- really hope we find a much more explosive WR to replace him.
December 17Dec 17 19 minutes ago, lazygringo said: Y'all turning on a very solid player for us simply because he's declaring for the draft is not a good look. We should want the best for him. Solid is a good descriptor. Nobody should be losing sleep over this loss or building a shrine to his midness.
December 17Dec 17 20 minutes ago, lazygringo said: Y'all turning on a very solid player for us simply because he's declaring for the draft is not a good look. We should want the best for him. No one is turning on him. The opinions on Moore have been pretty consistent around here all season - by and large a disappointment considering how much he's earning. I'm still convinced you're mistaking him for Mosley.
December 17Dec 17 34 minutes ago, UncleSonny said: That was Kwame Cavil dummy I think he’s still running his forty yard dash
December 17Dec 17 No one is turning on him. The opinions on Moore have been pretty consistent around here all season - by and large a disappointment considering how much he's earning. I'm still convinced you're mistaking him for Mosley.Why would I confuse a very reliable veteran player in Moore for a for a mid-level newcomer in Mosley? If Arch was better to start the year and Moore was healthy his numbers would be fantastic.
December 17Dec 17 1 hour ago, lazygringo said: Y'all turning on a very solid player for us simply because he's declaring for the draft is not a good look. We should want the best for him. He’s the 4th best receiver on this team at best. Stop it
December 17Dec 17 2 hours ago, Tex48 said: Is Wingo confirmed coming back next year? i fucking hope not.
December 17Dec 17 The Georgia game is hazy because it ended so terribly but I recall Moore catching a kickoff on the goal line and forgetting he isn’t niblett. Basically got tackled by the first guy he came in contact with and that drive started from the 10 down 3 possessions I believe. That’s not a aww shucks he was trying real hard moment, that’s a veteran being a moron in a huge moment. The days of being sentimental over average football players just because they wear burnt orange is over. Next man up, next better man up actually.
December 17Dec 17 5 minutes ago, immamac said: i fucking hope not. Same was surprised we haven’t heard anything about him
December 17Dec 17 Probably because he’s our most explosive player on offense Edited December 17Dec 17 by Hank_Hill
December 17Dec 17 1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said: Probably because he’s our most explosive player on offense Yeah I thought sark was a pos that couldn’t develop players, now we want the best ones to transfer?
December 17Dec 17 53 minutes ago, immamac said: i fucking hope not. 47 minutes ago, Tex48 said: Same was surprised we haven’t heard anything about him Come on guys. You look like regards right now. Edited December 17Dec 17 by Dbeasy
December 17Dec 17 The only reason I would be excited for Wingo to be gone is it would mean we broke the bank for an absolute baller WR1. OL and RB are much bigger needs so I don’t see it happening unless we’re getting truly crazy for Arch’s last season.
December 17Dec 17 43 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said: Common guys is the new idoit or pre Madonna. That’s regarded
December 17Dec 17 a stud WR will increase the production of 1 WR. a stud OL will increase the production of all WRs.
December 17Dec 17 12 hours ago, Red Five said: Someone saying incredibly, objectively incorrect things in a very confident manner will always be hilarious. It's basically Ron Burgandy. Ahhh DeAndre Moore, the Longhorns finest receiver!
December 17Dec 17 10 hours ago, lazygringo said: Why would I confuse a very reliable veteran player in Moore for a for a mid-level newcomer in Mosley? If Arch was better to start the year and Moore was healthy his numbers would be fantastic. From mistaking one WR for another, very poorly interpreting who's play was best to blaming Arch for the failures of a WR, you've gone full circle on the idoit logic train in a single post. Fantastic work!
December 17Dec 17 Dude. Mosley was injured to start the season, then replaced Moore at the #2 spot starting with the OU game. You are taking crazy pills.
December 17Dec 17 10 hours ago, lazygringo said: Why would I confuse a very reliable veteran player in Moore for a for a mid-level newcomer in Mosley? If Arch was better to start the year and Moore was healthy his numbers would be fantastic.
December 17Dec 17 @lazygringo I was looking for more practiced eyes. Should we pool our Lockett and Ffrench NIL, let them walk, and sign Ryan Williams as our WR2?
December 17Dec 17 2 minutes ago, Bevo said: @lazygringo I was looking for more practiced eyes. Should we pool our Lockett and Ffrench NIL, let them walk, and sign Ryan Williams as our WR2? You mean as our WR1?
December 17Dec 17 If Johntay Cook wasn’t such a jackass, I wouldn’t have to read the last two pages of nonsense and our season would probably go well into January.
December 17Dec 17 2 hours ago, DaggerHorns said: If Johntay Cook wasn’t such a jackass, I wouldn’t have to read the last two pages of nonsense and our season would probably go well into January. nah, still lose to tOSU, Georgia, and Florida.
December 17Dec 17 11 hours ago, Dbeasy said: Come on guys. You look like regards right now. Production per $ has to be involved now. If it was just lol free dude plays football, yeah keep Wingo. He gives up on plays too much and falls down when someone looks at him wrong in open space. That isn't "top 10 WR in the country money" worthy. He's not even top 5 in the SEC from a pure statistical standpoint and he's 56 in the country when you look at all conferences. He's good, but he's not GREAT. He currently gets paid GREAT money. Other people who got paid GREAT money - Xavier Worthy, Matthew Golden. He's categorically not the same as them on the field, potential wise I would say he's equal or close.
December 17Dec 17 4 minutes ago, immamac said: Production per $ has to be involved now. If it was just lol free dude plays football, yeah keep Wingo. He gives up on plays too much and falls down when someone looks at him wrong in open space. That isn't "top 10 WR in the country money" worthy. He's not even top 5 in the SEC from a pure statistical standpoint and he's 56 in the country when you look at all conferences. He's good, but he's not GREAT. He currently gets paid GREAT money. Other people who got paid GREAT money - Xavier Worthy, Matthew Golden. He's categorically not the same as them on the field, potential wise I would say he's equal or close. Production per $$ will slowly get adopted and it is going to hurt recruits. I am already to the point that I want the staff to go after 1 high end RB a year (stop with the 2 sh!t) and 2 WRs. Save the spots and money for the portal. Big game hunt at the skill positions in recruiting and backfill in the portal. Over recruit at positions of scarcity in the portal, OL and DL. Texas should get a legit GM, someone with NFL experience. NIL is basically your salary cap and you need to look at return on capital at the macro and micro levels.
December 17Dec 17 14 minutes ago, Codaxx said: Production per $$ will slowly get adopted and it is going to hurt recruits. I am already to the point that I want the staff to go after 1 high end RB a year (stop with the 2 sh!t) and 2 WRs. Save the spots and money for the portal. Big game hunt at the skill positions in recruiting and backfill in the portal. Over recruit at positions of scarcity in the portal, OL and DL. Texas should get a legit GM, someone with NFL experience. NIL is basically your salary cap and you need to look at return on capital at the macro and micro levels. yep, but guess what? Recruits don't matter. No one is playing for free including recruits. If you can't play out of HS then fuck off and go show that you are awesome somewhere else and then get paid in year 2. It's harder for the developmental positions, but I imagine the bulk of the P5 is going to be more heavy with mature players who have been proven than young guys poppin' off very soon.
December 17Dec 17 14 hours ago, lazygringo said: Why would I confuse a very reliable veteran player in Moore for a for a mid-level newcomer in Mosley? If Arch was better to start the year and Moore was healthy his numbers would be fantastic.
December 17Dec 17 1 hour ago, immamac said: Production per $ has to be involved now. If it was just lol free dude plays football, yeah keep Wingo. He gives up on plays too much and falls down when someone looks at him wrong in open space. That isn't "top 10 WR in the country money" worthy. He's not even top 5 in the SEC from a pure statistical standpoint and he's 56 in the country when you look at all conferences. He's good, but he's not GREAT. He currently gets paid GREAT money. Other people who got paid GREAT money - Xavier Worthy, Matthew Golden. He's categorically not the same as them on the field, potential wise I would say he's equal or close. Of course production per $ has to be considered. Did he deliver the required ROI? Without knowing the numbers I’d guess no. BUT, it wasn’t all his fault. The OL and QB was also an issue. And he should get better. And he’s still a highly highly talented receiver who did have moments of excellence. You don’t run that off, UNLESS the NIL demands are out in left field.
December 17Dec 17 Some 995 smoke that Endries might be declaring. I hate that there are at least two threads for roster talk, one here and one in the recruiting forum, but I get it.
December 17Dec 17 25 minutes ago, bschoolprof said: Some 995 smoke that Endries might be declaring. I hate that there are at least two threads for roster talk, one here and one in the recruiting forum, but I get it. @immamac do your job!
December 17Dec 17 I can call his dad, but I legit think he's undecided. He wants to go, he needs a good grade.
December 17Dec 17 1 minute ago, immamac said: I can call his dad, but I legit think he's undecided. He wants to go, he needs a good grade. Tell him that you will withhold that sweet sweet burnt ends paycheck if he doesn't tell you.
December 17Dec 17 Just now, Vertigo said: Tell him that you will withhold that sweet sweet burnt ends paycheck if he doesn't tell you. I'm doing that anyway. We are switching to Baseball Pitchers.
December 17Dec 17 32 minutes ago, bschoolprof said: Some 995 smoke that Endries might be declaring. I hate that there are at least two threads for roster talk, one here and one in the recruiting forum, but I get it. I am not as worried about TE. I think there is serious talent in that room receiving wise. What they lack in the room is an in-line TE. That isnt Endries.
December 17Dec 17 5 minutes ago, Codaxx said: What they lack in the room is an in-line TE. I guess you just forgot spencer shannon was on the roster.
December 17Dec 17 28 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said: @immamac do your job! 24 minutes ago, immamac said: I can call his dad, but I legit think he's undecided. He wants to go, he needs a good grade. lulz - I at first thought you meant thread merging.
December 17Dec 17 15 hours ago, Hank_Hill said: The only reason I would be excited for Wingo to be gone is it would mean we broke the bank for an absolute baller WR1. OL and RB are much bigger needs so I don’t see it happening unless we’re getting truly crazy for Arch’s last season. With no salary cap we should be outspending every school.
December 17Dec 17 13 minutes ago, bschoolprof said: lulz - I at first thought you meant thread merging. I meant thread merging. @immamac Also your auto correct is fucking up mt posts and making people think I’m dumb
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