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Didn't see a thread for this, but know people have seen based on the other thread.

Saw it last night. Went in with my Leo banner for best actor after seeing One Battle but will concede to Timothee. If he wasn't dating a Kardashian, I'd be a bigger fan, but oh well.

Thought the movie was stressful but enjoyable. I haven't seen Uncut Gems, but did see Good Time, and I've heard all the Safdie movies carry this similar anxious tone.

Bobby Hill's daughter was excellent and quite easy to look at.

Loved the 50s setting with 80s music. It doesn't make sense but worked well.

#2

I’ll say I’m not the biggest fan of the anxiety infused films. But it really does snatch you and takes you for a ride.

Timmy been my dawg since the king.

He killed it.

#3

Loved this. I may like it more than One Battle After Another, which is probably my other favorite movie of the year (and of course probably leading the best picture conversation). It had a lot of the pace and anxiety of the other Safdie movies but to me it wasn't as nerve wracking - even in some of the scenes where things got pretty dicey, I think having this anchored in ping pong somehow keeps it from Good Time or Uncut Gems (or If I Had Legs I'd Kick You, for that matter) anxiety. I already want to watch it again. Chalamet was great, Odessa was great, Tyler the Creator was great, Kevin O'Leary was actually great. Such great casting.

I don't know exactly what I was expecting from this movie, but this wasn't it. I made the comparison in the other thread (movie you just watched) between this and Inside Llewyn Davis, where it's almost a similar format and topic just with Marty being young, energetic, and optimistic where Llewyn is tired, bitter, jaded, and I kinda like that comparison. It also feels Lebowskiesque to me, although of course less overtly comedic. But it is calling me back to rewatch it in that same way, to try and catch the details from each little episode, find the little nuggets in the dialog, watch the action unfold.

Mild spoilers/plot discussion -

One of the things I can't decide how I feel about is Marty's direction at the end. He is a piece of shit throughout the whole movie - almost none of the "bad guys" in the film have done anything wrong really. Even Abel Ferrara was being wronged by Marty at every step. And Marty the character absolutely believes the horrible line he gives Odessa about how his life is burdened with purpose where hers is not - that sums him up and explains how he can so easily use everyone around him. And the movie ends with him promising to never leave and meeting his child (and of course it begins with the conception of his child). When I was watching the movie, my thought was... of course he'll continue to be a piece of shit, he'll abandon her and the kid to pursue his ambitions. He'll send little Marty Jr ping pong paddles for Christmas. But here he is having this moment. But, sitting with it for a bit longer, I'm less sure that's exactly where his character goes. I mean honestly I'm sitting here in judgment of this character, but I've gone through my own arc that has had a lot of similarity and where I did change, I did grow, I did evolve. Sobriety was my main catalyst for that change, but fatherhood accelerated it and certainly can have that effect.

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We've seen that Marty is competent and has potential outside of a sport that will never be as big as he dreams it is going to be. Even as he's being a piece of shit, I think he cares on some level about other people - just, he cares about them less than his ambition. He seems like he has a real friendship with Tyler the Creator. He beats Odessa's husband. He stands up for his dumb friend with the orange balls. The moment when he's yelling at him and Odessa for them both to stop talking to each other like that - what a great moment, and of course he's trying to control the situation to his end but I think he's also feeling protective of them both. Maybe it doesn't ultimately matter which way Marty goes, we're just seeing this snapshot of this guy with this dream leading up to this pivotal moment.

Anyways, curious where the end left other people.

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