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Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo

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8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I was not alive when DKR was the HC at Texas. The black bolded part is reference to the academics resenting the acclaim of the football program under DKR. When he left the HC role, there were several power struggles in the aftermath, part of which was the academic side fucking with athletic department constantly, trying to descope it, disrupt it, suffocate it, you name it. These idiots didn’t realize the importance of athletics for higher application demand and quality of applicants. May those people rot in hell. Others will have to provide better details. 

1) Dude left on his own. Burned out and hated the cheating.  

2) Others would have to explain it. 

3) Patterson allegedly had a great interview and claimed he’d happily do the dirty work of cleaning house and reducing costs. He reported into a bad/clueless regime above him. Anyone who followed the Rockets, NBA or Trailblazers knew he was going to be a complete fucking disaster. 

4) The academic regime hid behind the utilization of a search firm to hire someone and they wanted it to be a black guy that didn’t cost much. Charlie Strong checked all of the boxes. That may bother folks, doesn’t matter. That is the truth of how they looked at that role for UT at the time. The boosters were fatigued from the Saban/Jamail/Brown debacle and let it happen.

Stick around and read and follow the recruiting board and you’ll find a ton of stories about the school, programs, personalities, rivals, players, coaches, boosters, etc.  

Nice, I appreciate all the info. Admittedly, I haven’t actively followed recruiting since “Malikmas” 

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  • He's been a petulant cunt at NC over the last few months and they told him to get lost. He hasn't changed and shouldn't be anywhere around the program.  

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37 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I was not alive when DKR was the HC at Texas. The black bolded part is reference to the academics resenting the acclaim of the football program under DKR. When he left the HC role, there were several power struggles in the aftermath, part of which was the academic side fucking with athletic department constantly, trying to descope it, disrupt it, suffocate it, you name it. These idiots didn’t realize the importance of athletics for higher application demand and quality of applicants. May those people rot in hell. Others will have to provide better details. 

1) Dude left on his own. Burned out and hated the cheating.  

2) Others would have to explain it. 

3) Patterson allegedly had a great interview and claimed he’d happily do the dirty work of cleaning house and reducing costs. He reported into a bad/clueless regime above him. Anyone who followed the Rockets, NBA or Trailblazers knew he was going to be a complete fucking disaster. 

4) The academic regime hid behind the utilization of a search firm to hire someone and they wanted it to be a black guy that didn’t cost much. Charlie Strong checked all of the boxes. That may bother folks, doesn’t matter. That is the truth of how they looked at that role for UT at the time. The boosters were fatigued from the Saban/Jamail/Brown debacle and let it happen.

Stick around and read and follow the recruiting board and you’ll find a ton of stories about the school, programs, personalities, rivals, players, coaches, boosters, etc.  

Plus Charlie was the ESPN/sports media hype  pick for the next coach that deserved a shot at a blue blood type program.   He had a good year or two at Louisville that put him in that position much like Tom had a Cougar High who was also at the time an ESPN hype pick for the next big job.  

I can now say thankfully we didn’t bite a third time when Sark was hired.   But other than Urban Meyer and maybe Saban’s name coming up I can’t think of a coach from the mid majors or lower profile Power 5 that ESPN pushed as the next big hire. Credit to CDC for being deliberate when he hired Sark.   I had my doubts, but I pretty much glad those doubts were wrong.  

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2) Fred Akers, 1938–2020: A Remembrance – Texas Monthly

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When Royal retired after the 1976 season, Texas fans wanted Mike Campbell, Royal’s longtime defensive coordinator, as the next coach. Not Akers. But some at Texas—notably Allan Shivers, chairman of the UT System Board of Regents, and former chairman Frank Erwin—favored a clean break from the past. Akers represented that, sort of. He was 38 and had just led the University of Wyoming to an 8–4 season, Western Athletic Conference Championship, and Fiesta Bowl appearance. Wyoming was not a destination job for a head coach with big dreams, but Akers made it just that. “You have to figure out what you’re going to sell to kids,” Akers said. “What we figured out is that if you’re an inner-city kid, say, from Chicago, and you come to Laramie for the first time, you’re seeing mountains and natural beauty you’ve never seen before. You wouldn’t believe how many kids would be sold on us when they saw the place.”

 

"Great time for me to get out; this isn't the game I signed up for," Brown said in his final postgame news conference. "I'm leaving it better than I found it."

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15 hours ago, Steel Shank said:

"Great time for me to get out; this isn't the game I signed up for," Brown said in his final postgame news conference. "I'm leaving it better than I found it."

 

 

revenue sharing will be a huge boost to most schools 

On 12/2/2024 at 3:13 AM, tx 3 putt said:

 

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Dear 8lb 6oz baby jesus please make this happen.

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6 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

 

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Dear 8lb 6oz baby jesus please make this happen.

Is he looking for a new coed?

1 hour ago, Pimphand said:

 

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Dear 8lb 6oz baby jesus please make this happen.

 

watching the clips from edelman’s podcast, his schtick wont play in college ball 

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On 11/29/2024 at 10:01 AM, RoyalBevo21 said:

See, this is good stuff. We need more of this around here.

Can you go in more depth on the bolded above?

I'm really interested to learn more about: 

1. Darrell Royal was only 52 years old when he stepped away. Did he leave on his own or was it a “please resign or we’ll fire you” 

2. Why was Fred Akers chosen to replace him? 
 

3. How the hell was Steve Patterson ever selected as AD?

4. Was hiring Charlie Strong a rogue move by the athletics department? (The BMDs didn’t support?) I know Red McCombs hated it.

CTJ did a great job answering, but I can offer a little more…

1. Royal had two adult children die in the ‘70s. Plus, Switzer was not only cheating, not only getting away with it, but also openly taunting him, because Switzer is a true asshole. 
 
3. I heard that Oliver Luck was the leading candidate, but in his interview, he made it clear that Mack needed to retire/be retired, and that needed to happen before he started the job. Because Luck is smart. Patterson gave assurances that he would follow Powers’ lead on the matter. 
 
Powers needed that, because he was in a precarious political situation. Rick Perry was trying to put the same “reforms” on UT that were put on TAMU, and he was stacking the BoR with amenable people (a couple not even Exes, as it was getting more difficult to find UT grads to appoint that would do the governor’s bidding). 
 
Mack was failing, and was using all his political connections and relationships among UT supporters in an attempt to hang on. Powers was trying to navigate Scylla (Perry) and Charybdis (Mack) and he believed he needed an AD that would do what he (Powers) told him. Powers was the key decision maker on the AD hire. 
 
By no means do I think Powers was perfect or blameless in this, but I tend to be sympathetic to his position. I think his goals were more aligned with the university’s best interests than many of the other big players. 

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2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

watching the clips from edelman’s podcast, his schtick wont play in college ball 

I know this but it doesn't mean I don't want Belicek to not succeed Brown it would be high comedy hour.

5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Apparently ole Mack was leveraging his relationship ships with key boosters to try to hang on.  

Nooooooo! Mack?! Nooooooooo!

CTJ did a great job answering, but I can offer a little more…
1. Royal had two adult children die in the ‘70s. Plus, Switzer was not only cheating, not only getting away with it, but also openly taunting him, because Switzer is a true asshole. ..,


This right here. For the younger and uninitiated, Switzer is absolutely the worst piece of human excrement our University has ever had to deal with. Sherrill, Miles, Stoops, etc. pale in comparison. I would piss on his grave given the chance.
5 minutes ago, TxTower said:

 


This right here. For the younger and uninitiated, Switzer is absolutely the worst piece of human excrement our University has ever had to deal with. Sherrill, Miles, Stoops, etc. pale in comparison. I would piss on his grave given the chance.

 

Oh, pissing on Switzer’s grave is definitely on my bucket list. When will the fucker die?

2 hours ago, statsman said:

Oh, pissing on Switzer’s grave is definitely on my bucket list. When will the fucker die?

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3 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

Zey didn't let me leeeave on my terms!

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Maybe we read it wrong from the start, he wasn't killing himself in Florida,  he was killing the

On 12/1/2024 at 9:45 AM, General Specific said:

He had a choice, again, and for the second time, chose poorly! Some men, you just can’t reach!

So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it.

Well, he gets it.

 

 

his breakdown on the manning. cast last nigbt was pretty good. he’s going to build a nfl prep program. it’ll be interesting to see how players respond 

The question was asked "why did Fred Akers brought in to replace Darrell Royal?"  The main reason was because of his earlier ties to Texas football.  He was considered to be one of Royal's better recruiters. Matter of fact.  Coach Akers recruited a lot of the 1967 UT class that is still considered to be one of the best in the school's history. (The myth that Royal was just recruiting players to keep them from competing against him started  with this class).Coach Akers was considered to be an up and coming coach that would fit the new image of UT. He also brought in a new updated concept of defense to the equation. He also hailed from a school that absolutely hates Texas(Arkansas). While he was friends and former teammate of Barry Switzer, Coach Akers understood the meaning of the OU game.  He would never invite Barry Switzer to speak with any Teas team like Mack Brown did. one time. When Mack did that, it was like him spitting on Coach Royal's face. He knew how Coach Royal felt about Switzer.

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So a guy and a staff that has never recruited HS players are going to go to UNC and somehow just rev that program up? I just can’t picture BB dealing with an entitled 18 year old. 
 

This IMO is a terrible hire (if it comes to fruition). 

5 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

So a guy and a staff that has never recruited HS players are going to go to UNC and somehow just rev that program up? I just can’t picture BB dealing with an entitled 18 year old. 
 

This IMO is a terrible hire (if it comes to fruition). 

I agree . This could be a terrible hire for UNC. They were not wrong in getting rid of Mack though.

He's retired and fucking someone fifty years younger than him. 

At his stage in life why not just start a clinic to teach coaches how to coach or develop players?  Seems like a more fruitful use of his time instead of being a fucking head coach.

If this is ONLY about getting his son a job...yikes.

 

I absolutely love this. It’s going to be entertaining no matter the outcome.

But I do think he’ll be reasonably successful. Mack has set the bar rather low at UNC. Holding James Madison to less than 70 would be an improvement. 

Belichick sucked as a GM. And he's 72, so you're gonna be stuck with his son in 2-3 years. No thanks.

But if you're UNC I guess you don't have much to lose.

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42 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I absolutely love this. It’s going to be entertaining no matter the outcome.

But I do think he’ll be reasonably successful. Mack has set the bar rather low at UNC. Holding James Madison to less than 70 would be an improvement. 

Plus, Mack is going to seethe over this for years. You know he’s super-pissed right now. 

Belichick sucked as a GM. And he's 72, so you're gonna be stuck with his son in 2-3 years. No thanks.
But if you're UNC I guess you don't have much to lose.

So art briles is back in the mix?

I'm skeptical but it would be fucking amazing if UNC actually turns the "make Belichik say no" coaching search meme into a reality.

While we're at it, West Virginia should go get Gruden.

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On 12/6/2024 at 10:29 AM, TxTower said:

 


This right here. For the younger and uninitiated, Switzer is absolutely the worst piece of human excrement our University has ever had to deal with. Sherrill, Miles, Stoops, etc. pale in comparison. I would piss on his grave given the chance.

 

In my early days of following Texas football on the 360 boards, some article came up about Switzer and Bozworth. A poster, and I don’t remember the handle, wrote in response the very colorful position of: 

“If I were driving around a dangerous mountain curve and saw Barry Switzer and Brian Bosworth walking to get a gas can filled, I’d hit the gas and take them both out as we all tumbled into the ravine. I’d die laughing and I hope I could see their faces as we plummeted. “

I’ve stolen that premise many times since. 

4 hours ago, RC Horn said:

The question was asked "why did Fred Akers brought in to replace Darrell Royal?"  The main reason was because of his earlier ties to Texas football.  He was considered to be one of Royal's better recruiters. Matter of fact.  Coach Akers recruited a lot of the 1967 UT class that is still considered to be one of the best in the school's history. (The myth that Royal was just recruiting players to keep them from competing against him started  with this class).Coach Akers was considered to be an up and coming coach that would fit the new image of UT. He also brought in a new updated concept of defense to the equation. He also hailed from a school that absolutely hates Texas(Arkansas). While he was friends and former teammate of Barry Switzer, Coach Akers understood the meaning of the OU game.  He would never invite Barry Switzer to speak with any Teas team like Mack Brown did. one time. When Mack did that, it was like him spitting on Coach Royal's face. He knew how Coach Royal felt about Switzer.

Interesting how Texas always hires a coach who is 180 degrees different from the previous one. 

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his breakdown on the manning. cast last nigbt was pretty good. he’s going to build a nfl prep program. it’ll be interesting to see how players respond 


 

5 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

So a guy and a staff that has never recruited HS players are going to go to UNC and somehow just rev that program up? I just can’t picture BB dealing with an entitled 18 year old. 

Belichick absolutely sucked at drafting with high draft picks. 

BB succeeded as long as he did because he got the Tom Brady discount on Free Agents. (Similar to the Saban discount at Alabama.)

BB won’t be able to recruit high school 5 stars for shit, but he should crush it at 20 to 22 year-old transfers looking to go to the Belichick Finishing School for NFL hopefuls. 

He is going to run a program for 1 & 2 year upperclassmen. That’s it. He has already stated it through a variety of news sources. The longer his hiring drags out, the more interviews he gets to campaign for his new plan for a NFL Feeder college program. 

When idiots on TV talk about Charlie Weiss & others with this plan failing in the past, they are leaving out that those attempts were made BEFORE 100% Annual Free Agency.

There are a decent amount of rich UNC alums to provide NIL funding, Chapel Hill is a nice place, the girls are beautiful, and you can basically get a Masters Degree in NFL Prep from “The Greatest NFL Coach of All Time.”

This will be like Deion’s Colorado, but no high school recruiting (by Belichick himself) and all of the flashy jewelry is in the form of 6 Super Bowl rings. 
 

Don’t know if it will work, but I would expect a playoff appearance by UNC in the next 2-3 years or he steps down. 

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Remember when UNC had that whole scandal where they made fake classes for the basketball team so they could be academically eligible? BB knows UNC is willing to go there to get things done if it helps with sports.

4 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

Plus, Mack is going to seethe over this for years. You know he’s super-pissed right now. 

Thank you.  I wasn't sure how to feel about this deal if it happens.  You've clarified it for me.  Go BB!  Take UNC to success Mack never could.

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Why do I get  the feeling we'll be reading about a case of elder abuse within the next year?

I put this in another thread, but it actually belongs here.

 

13 hours ago, RC Horn said:

The question was asked "why did Fred Akers brought in to replace Darrell Royal?"  The main reason was because of his earlier ties to Texas football.  He was considered to be one of Royal's better recruiters. Matter of fact.  Coach Akers recruited a lot of the 1967 UT class that is still considered to be one of the best in the school's history. (The myth that Royal was just recruiting players to keep them from competing against him started  with this class).Coach Akers was considered to be an up and coming coach that would fit the new image of UT. He also brought in a new updated concept of defense to the equation. He also hailed from a school that absolutely hates Texas(Arkansas). While he was friends and former teammate of Barry Switzer, Coach Akers understood the meaning of the OU game.  He would never invite Barry Switzer to speak with any Teas team like Mack Brown did. one time. When Mack did that, it was like him spitting on Coach Royal's face. He knew how Coach Royal felt about Switzer.

Not say this correct but my recollection is Lorene Roger’s wanted Akers because his youth and image (as you mention) in hopes of him being another Royal.  Royal wanted his longtime assistant coach Campbell to succeed him and when Akers was chosen it created hard feelings.  Akers was able to initially over come it  by having an undefeated regular season lead by Earl Campbell but badly lost to Notre Dame in Cotton Bowl and finishing #2 in 1977.  Akers later lost to Georgia in Cotton Bowl which cost him a NC, and embarrassed by Iowa and lost to Air Force in bowl game his final season.  I’m sure there were other significant events but those are what mostly standout in my memory for his demise.

Well, there is a fine piece of information here.

The best way to make errybody completely forget about the coach you just fired is to hire a GOAT, instead of hiring Corch Potatohead.

Who knew?

3 hours ago, Tex Long said:

Well, there is a fine piece of information here.

The best way to make errybody completely forget about the coach you just fired is to hire a GOAT, instead of hiring Corch Potatohead.

Who knew?

Lord those 3 years are seared in my brain forever. just an unbelievable clusterfuck of incompetence from Univ President on down.

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