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#50051
25 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

From the article: 

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The TRLG-230’s use by Ukraine also comes at an opportune time as Russia has started to reportedly outrange the HIMARS by deploying its own Tornado-S MLRS to the frontlines.

While the Russian Tornado-S has a significantly longer range of 120 kilometers, the Turkish TRLG-230 has unmatched precision owing to a laser seeker mounted on the nose of the projectile.

Besides, the transfer of this laser-guided system will help ease the burden on Washington, which has supplied dozens of HIMARS and is being warned about its depleting stockpiles.

Give. Them. ATACMS. 

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  • AUS-97HORN
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    For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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#50052
19 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

From the article: 

Give. Them. ATACMS. 

gotta be honest, having the 120km distance is pretty much almost all they need to have to hit any russian command and control anywhere in Ukraine other than the southern portion of Crimea and Sevastopol

and it also allows them to start fucking up every single Russian base in range as well, which is a lot of them.

#50054
20 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean, yeah, it kind of would be a shame, actually. At least if they sunk the grain. We're toeing the line of a famine in most 3rd world countries in the next few years with this way and Russia's bullshit. I get your intention, but man blowing up grain would be a pretty shitty side effect. 

Now, if we know those ships are empty...

Yeah. As much as I hate seeing them profit off stolen grain, it’s still needed all around the world. Those shipments are technically saving lives, or at least delaying famine down the line.

#50055
4 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

gotta be honest, having the 120km distance is pretty much almost all they need to have to hit any russian command and control anywhere in Ukraine other than the southern portion of Crimea and Sevastopol

and it also allows them to start fucking up every single Russian base in range as well, which is a lot of them.

It's the new Russian MLRS that has the 120 Km range...not the Turkish one. 

#50057
16 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

It's the new Russian MLRS that has the 120 Km range...not the Turkish one. 

we dont read here on Surly.... we assume.  hur dur

#50062
1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

 

Just FYI, I'd be very skeptical of anything sourced from eurasiantimes. It is not a reliable news site. 

#50064
52 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

gotta be honest, having the 120km distance is pretty much almost all they need to have to hit any russian command and control anywhere in Ukraine other than the southern portion of Crimea and Sevastopol

and it also allows them to start fucking up every single Russian base in range as well, which is a lot of them.

You read that wrong. The Russians have 120km range. This Turkish system has a 70km range.

#50065
2 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

You read that wrong. The Russians have 120km range. This Turkish system has a 70km range.

But what is that in pounds and ounces?  Talk American, goddammit!

#50066

Fuck if I know.How bout this...the Turkish system has a little more than half the range of the Russian system, both of which have a longer range than HIMARS sans ATACMS.

 

Edit: Ironically, I got confused on KM and miles. HIMARS appear to have a slight range advantage over the Turkish system

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#50072
13 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Fuck if I know.How bout this...the Turkish system has a little more than half the range of the Russian system, both of which have a longer range than HIMARS sans ATACMS.

 

Edit: Ironically, I got confused on KM and miles. HIMARS appear to have a slight range advantage over the Turkish system

The advantage of the Turkish system is the ability to hit moving targets via laser guidance vs pre-programmed GPS coordinates. However, since it is laser guided, I believe it is needs a spotter for the laser designation (Turkey appears to expect it to work in concert with the TB2). Next year the US is supposedly fielding the Precision Strike Missile to enable HIMARs and M270 to engage moving targets. Only thing I've seen is that it will have a "multi-mode seeker." I presume this means the ability to identify a target without requiring an active laser spotter, but I don't know for sure. 

#50081
38 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

as dogshit as the russian ATC are, that crash was well over 90% a direct result of the insistence of the Polish pilots to keep forcing a landing in shitty weather at an airport that they had never been to before that was more of a miltary base than a civilian airport, which lacked a lot of the extra lighting a normal airport would have.

poland literally put all their proverbial eggs in the same basket (plane), with their entire senior military leadership, their President along with most of his entire cabinet all being on the same plane.    they effectively decapitated their entire generation of leadership in 1 crash.

#50082

Negged soccer spray not for the content (Apple does need to get right with Jesus on China) but for trying to derail this thread with his pet issues.

#50083
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

But what is that in pounds and ounces?  Talk American, goddammit!

120 km is roughly 600 furlongs, or approximately 24,000 rods.

You're welcome.

#50084
53 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

as dogshit as the russian ATC are, that crash was well over 90% a direct result of the insistence of the Polish pilots to keep forcing a landing in shitty weather at an airport that they had never been to before that was more of a miltary base than a civilian airport, which lacked a lot of the extra lighting a normal airport would have.

poland literally put all their proverbial eggs in the same basket (plane), with their entire senior military leadership, their President along with most of his entire cabinet all being on the same plane.    they effectively decapitated their entire generation of leadership in 1 crash.

This is correct except it wasn’t the pilots insisting to land in Smolensk. It was President Kaczynski demanding, via the Commander in Chief of the Polish Air Force, that they land. 

#50086
2 hours ago, MillerEP said:

 

Orban is holding this money hostage because the EU recently decided to freeze about 13 billion euros in cohesion and recovery funding after Orban failed meet some rule of law milestones. So he’s blackmailing the EU with Ukrainian blood. 
 

A true piece of dick, and especially dickish because Hungary is absolutely a beggar state with its hand out to Brussels. 

#50087
49 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

what is that in Hands? 

God damn you. Was just looking up the conversion before I saw your post. Have some rep. 

And fuck Russia.  

#50088

I refuse to translate the measurement to hands because I don't support King Henry VIII and his wicked ways.

#50089
23 minutes ago, utee94 said:

I refuse to translate the measurement to hands because I don't support King Henry VIII and his wicked ways.

Do you even handbra, bro?

#50091

Where are our experts with shitting themselves?  Need to see more of this in the public forum.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/vladimir-putin-falls-down-stairs-and-soils-himself-claims-suggest/news-story/4da8667ecd4e6b21c871617f08f5959b

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Vladimir Putin is reported to have slipped and tumbled down several stairs at his official residence. The Russian president, 70, was supposedly helped to a sofa by bodyguards as his personal doctors rushed to assist him.

The account is the latest from a Russian Telegram channel named General SVR which regularly suggests the warmonger is suffering from multiple health problems not disclosed by the Kremlin.

The alleged fall led to bruising of his coccyx but also highlighted problems from “cancer of the gastrointestinal tract”, it was claimed.

 

Despite this alleged incident, Putin was able to attend and speak at a young scientists conference in Moscow on Thursday.

According to the account, Putin was walking downstairs when he “stumbled and fell to his back, after which he fell on his side and slid down a couple of steps”.

“The incident took place in front of the president’s bodyguards, who reacted quickly and rushed to Putin’s aid.

“Three security officers helped the president to get to the nearest sofa and called the doctors who are on duty at the residence.”

The channel - which claims, without offering proof, to have sources in Putin’s entourage - said medics “arrived within a few minutes, but could not immediately examine the president”.

This was due to him suffering “oncology of the gastrointestinal tract, as a result of which he already experiences serious problems with digestion” - and the fall caused an “involuntary” reaction.

“Before the examination, the doctors escorted the president to the bathroom and helped to clean up.”

 

The report said: “After a complete examination, a bruise of the coccyx and soft tissues was diagnosed.”

Nothing critical was diagnosed and the bruising was treated with painkillers.

An investigation is to be carried out into what provoked the “fall”.

“He wears special shoes, even at home, with anti-slip coating, and the stairs in the residence are considered ‘safe’.

“As it turns out, all precautions are meaningless when nerves are at stake.”

Earlier this month the channel claimed that Putin’s health “against the backdrop of constant stress, is increasingly causing concern for doctors and [his] relatives”.

It stated that “due to cancer, Putin has serious digestive problems and has been on a strict diet for the past few months”.

He also suffers “bouts of coughing, dizziness, sleep disturbances, abdominal pain [and] constant nausea” as well as “the manifestation of symptoms of Parkinson’s disease and schizoaffective disorder”.

 

It claimed: “Putin is on medication all the time, and preparing the president for a public display is becoming increasingly difficult.

“To this should be added the increased risks in terms of personal security [due to the failures of his war in Ukraine].

“The whole complex of problems led the president to make a decision after the New Year to switch to the ‘self-isolation’ mode and spend most of the time in one of [his official] residences equipped with a so-called ‘bunker’.”

The channel claimed that “the situation at the front is such that, given the current trends, Russian troops will be forced to leave all the occupied territories of Ukraine by the summer of next year” except Crimea.

Separate media investigations disclosed that Putin is surrounded by a team of doctors including a cancer specialist when he travels.

 

#50092

This was due to him suffering “oncology of the gastrointestinal tract, as a result of which he already experiences serious problems with digestion” - and the fall caused an “involuntary” reaction.

“Before the examination, the doctors escorted the president to the bathroom and helped to clean up.”

He shat himself?  Good start.  

#50093
10 minutes ago, Gravy Train said:

Where are our experts with shitting themselves?  Need to see more of this in the public forum.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/vladimir-putin-falls-down-stairs-and-soils-himself-claims-suggest/news-story/4da8667ecd4e6b21c871617f08f5959b

 

Look, man.....I hate Putin as much as the next guy, but if "falling down and shitting yourself" is now a target on this thread, a lotta fellas here gonna be all

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#50094
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Look, man.....I hate Putin as much as the next guy, but if "falling down and shitting yourself" is now a target on this thread, a lotta fellas here gonna be all

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He's just like us! 

#50097
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Negged soccer spray not for the content (Apple does need to get right with Jesus on China) but for trying to derail this thread with his pet issues.

What the fuck are you talking about? Explain yourself.

 

 

#50099
16 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

What the fuck are you talking about? Explain yourself.

 

 

Ohh baby, say it again!

#50100
12 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Are people still flaking out about her going to raves and shit?

Nope. You're the first mention I have seen since the investigation said it was no big deal.

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