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#61351
7 minutes ago, Mullet Free said:

This makes no sense to me. Of course the online correspondence of the commander of his top paramilitary unit reaches him. I'm not sure why you would think that wasn't the case.

Because Prigozhin would be dead.  He's directly trashed Russian leadership and the Russian military, and blamed them for deliberately killing Russians.  Putin sees what his underlings pass up to him - he doesn't use the internet himself (doesn't trust it).

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#61353

More truth

from one of his retweets: "they mobilized hundreds of thousands and threw a jaw-dropping amount of armored vehicles into a furnace for this [the miniscule Russian 2023 gains]. sheer insanity, a military gone mad"

I keep trying, and I can’t recall anyone else in history who was so ridiculous whining over a failed war of conquest and who was so pathetic trying to play a blameless victim of a grand global conspiracy.Putin is a joke, and this is indeed the most idiotic war ever.

 

#61354
50 minutes ago, Mullet Free said:

This makes no sense to me. Of course the online correspondence of the commander of his top paramilitary unit reaches him. I'm not sure why you would think that wasn't the case.

Of course it doesn't make sense to you, GRUHorn. Lets say, people think it is the case, because every single intelligence report for the past 2 years on the subject lays out that Putin only gets good news from subordinates, because he shoots the messengers. Think...3 Day War. Ukrainians will welcome Russian soldiers with open arms, the 2014 annexation and results notwithstanding. He doesn't use the internet, he doesn't really use his own cell phone. He insists on paper reports. And he's made misstep after misstep after misstep.  Obviously he's well informed! That's why he tells you to push Crypto!

#61356

The Storm Shadow is air-launched. Ben Wallace says they are already in Ukraine and so assuming they’ve figured out how to integrate them onto AFU MiGs. ATACMS would still be pretty fucking nice. 
 

#61357
2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Of course it doesn't make sense to you, GRUHorn. Lets say, people think it is the case, because every single intelligence report for the past 2 years on the subject lays out that Putin only gets good news from subordinates, because he shoots the messengers. Think...3 Day War. Ukrainians will welcome Russian soldiers with open arms, the 2014 annexation and results notwithstanding. He doesn't use the internet, he doesn't really use his own cell phone. He insists on paper reports. And he's made misstep after misstep after misstep.  Obviously he's well informed! That's why he tells you to push Crypto!

You don't think Shoigu is going to inform Putin about Prigozin's rants?

#61358
4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The Storm Shadow is air-launched. Ben Wallace says they are already in Ukraine and so assuming they’ve figured out how to integrate them onto AFU MiGs. ATACMS would still be pretty fucking nice. 
 

IIRC the Brits said the holdup was that the integration was what they had to figure out before sending and then announcing so I'd assume they have figured it out.

#61359
3 minutes ago, texastough said:

You don't think Shoigu is going to inform Putin about Prigozin's rants?

It sounds like a great idea to get Prigozhin out of the way, right up until VVP asks “tell me, Seryozh. Is what he’s saying true?” 
 

Strong 1930s vibes at this point where everyone figured out that even passing “good” news to Stalin just gets him thinking about you. 

#61361
Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

It sounds like a great idea to get Prigozhin out of the way, right up until VVP asks “tell me, Seryozh. Is what he’s saying true?” 
 

Strong 1930s vibes at this point where everyone figured out that even passing “good” news to Stalin just gets him thinking about you. 

Fair but I guarantee he has FSB and other intel reporting on the military (and on eachother and everyone else for that matter). I am skeptical that Putin is truly in the dark about this stuff.

#61362
2 minutes ago, texastough said:

Fair but I guarantee he has FSB and other intel reporting on the military (and on eachother and everyone else for that matter). I am skeptical that Putin is truly in the dark about this stuff.

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#61363
2 hours ago, BamaATL said:

More on the storm shadow cruise missiles being in play, which apparently they are.    

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/britain-supplied-ukraine-with-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-cnn/

According to this, they are already in play.  Tech below:  Designed for precision strikes on stationary targets well behind enemy lines with a sophisticated warhead design.  

 

They gonna be allowed to strike targets inside Russia?

#61364
17 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The Storm Shadow is air-launched. Ben Wallace says they are already in Ukraine and so assuming they’ve figured out how to integrate them onto AFU MiGs. ATACMS would still be pretty fucking nice. 
 

It is actually in the video that was posted. The Czech Republic modifies Mig-29s to launch them.

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#61365

Relevant because Turkey. Erdogan is in serious trouble. Also, one of the opposition candidates dropped out which increases the possibility that Kilicdaroglu could get 50% and avoid a runoff:

"Erdogan may lose the presidential election already in the first round" - Reuters According to the polls, the current president of Turkey, Erdogan, is supported by 43.7%, and his main rival Kemal Kilicdaroglu - 49.3%.

 

#61366
they would have a hard time taking out the bridge. its a bridge system of at least 4 lane systems. what they could hope for is to hit another fuel train like last time to "help along" the issues.

or just hit the locomotive and stop the train and block the tracks.

#61367
10 minutes ago, The Dog said:
they would have a hard time taking out the bridge. its a bridge system of at least 4 lane systems. what they could hope for is to hit another fuel train like last time to "help along" the issues.

or just hit the locomotive and stop the train and block the tracks.

I've linked them before, but this YouTube channel of DCS Combat Sim folks have put out a LOAD of videos about the Ukraine War that were later proved out to be possible IRL! Including using Storm Shadow to hit the Kerch bridge. 

There's a whole-ass playlist of the Ukraine conflict and it's been surprisingly on-point predictions and analysis after literally flying the mission themselves

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#61368
14 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Relevant because Turkey. Erdogan is in serious trouble. Also, one of the opposition candidates dropped out which increases the possibility that Kilicdaroglu could get 50% and avoid a runoff:

"Erdogan may lose the presidential election already in the first round" - Reuters According to the polls, the current president of Turkey, Erdogan, is supported by 43.7%, and his main rival Kemal Kilicdaroglu - 49.3%.

 

Reading wiki, it seems like Mr. Killidaraku is a cool guy.

#61370
PRIGOZHIN PLAYING WITH FIRE 🔥 Prigozhin released a “poll” today asking “for whom would you vote in the presidential elections?”Putin: 42.5%Prigozhin: 39.7%Prigozhin should avoid windows and Moscow tea parties.
⚡️Representatives of Ukraine, Turkey, the russian federation and the UN did not reach an agreement on the extension of the "grain agreement" at the end of the two-day meeting, the Ministry of Defense of Turkey reported.

 

#61371
Ukraine played the long game. they've been quietly offering good money online for Russian tank parts, especially electronics. underpaid Russians in charge of overseeing mothballed tanks cashed in, and when the war started Russia found out that most of their tanks were inoperable.
Ukraine played the economic warfare card against systemic Russian military corruption with this tank part scam.⬇️Corruption that Western defense & intelligence analysts pretended did not exist, career reasons.1/ https://t.co/01KTceEU4e
I absolutely 💘 it when smart people read history and draw the correct lessons rather than look for confirmation of the stupid 💩 bias their superiors believe in.3/3

 

#61372
2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Of course it doesn't make sense to you, GRUHorn. Lets say, people think it is the case, because every single intelligence report for the past 2 years on the subject lays out that Putin only gets good news from subordinates, because he shoots the messengers. Think...3 Day War. Ukrainians will welcome Russian soldiers with open arms, the 2014 annexation and results notwithstanding. He doesn't use the internet, he doesn't really use his own cell phone. He insists on paper reports. And he's made misstep after misstep after misstep.  Obviously he's well informed! That's why he tells you to push Crypto!

 

1 hour ago, texastough said:

Fair but I guarantee he has FSB and other intel reporting on the military (and on eachother and everyone else for that matter). I am skeptical that Putin is truly in the dark about this stuff.

I saw a report recently about Ukrainians attempting to give Russia their soldiers' dead bodies so they could be properly identified and buried. They told them they had thousands of them in specific locations and could use the Red Cross to help facilitate the transfer. The Russians (don't know at what level) declined because it was impossible to them that there would be that many dead. They said there were only dozens dead based on their records from those locations. 

It further speaks to how their system can create a rot that spreads quickly up and down the chain of command, which is then compounded by misinformation that they themselves start to believe. 

#61373
⚡️Japan will allocate $1 billion to Ukraine's neighboring countries to help them accept refugees,
Also an important detail: Wallace made clear that the International procurement programme the UK manages that is currently seeking deep strike capabilities for Ukraine is a separate endeavour from the Storm Shadow donation. https://t.co/YZYxw8NhMU

^Yessss...Moore!

#61375
4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

More on the storm shadow cruise missiles being in play, which apparently they are.    

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/britain-supplied-ukraine-with-storm-shadow-cruise-missiles-cnn/

According to this, they are already in play.  Tech below:  Designed for precision strikes on stationary targets well behind enemy lines with a sophisticated warhead design.  

 

 

10 minutes ago, MillerEP said:
⚡️Japan will allocate $1 billion to Ukraine's neighboring countries to help them accept refugees,
Also an important detail: Wallace made clear that the International procurement programme the UK manages that is currently seeking deep strike capabilities for Ukraine is a separate endeavour from the Storm Shadow donation. https://t.co/YZYxw8NhMU

^Yessss...Moore!

Interesting note in the CNN article:

A Western official told CNN that the UK has received assurances from the Ukrainian government that these missiles will be used only within Ukrainian sovereign territory and not inside Russia

I guess there might be a Ukrainian side of the bridge they can hit? It also removes the possibility of hitting most of the airfields mapped here:

3 hours ago, The Dog said:
For no reason at all, here's a map of Russian airbases within 250km of the current Ukrainian border.

 

 

#61376
RUSSIANS FLEEING⚡️ ⚡️ ⚡️ Russian news 🇷🇺 reports that Russian soldiers are fleeing the northwest area near Bakhmut. Specifically, from around Ivanovskoe (Krasnoe).Keep running ‘til you reach Moscow.
This is a clear demonstration of where typical russians stand in this genocidal war against Ukraine. This video is from Germany! Each person who is walking with a Ukrainian flag is attacked and beaten by russians. Not in russia but in Germany! 1/n

 

#61377
31 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

 

I saw a report recently about Ukrainians attempting to give Russia their soldiers' dead bodies so they could be properly identified and buried. They told them they had thousands of them in specific locations and could use the Red Cross to help facilitate the transfer. The Russians (don't know at what level) declined because it was impossible to them that there would be that many dead. They said there were only dozens dead based on their records from those locations. 

It further speaks to how their system can create a rot that spreads quickly up and down the chain of command, which is then compounded by misinformation that they themselves start to believe. 

The other part of this is that a dead Russian soldier's family is suppose to receive a certain payout.  No body, no proof, no payout.  Ignorance is financial bliss.

#61378
1 hour ago, The Dog said:
Ukraine played the long game. they've been quietly offering good money online for Russian tank parts, especially electronics. underpaid Russians in charge of overseeing mothballed tanks cashed in, and when the war started Russia found out that most of their tanks were inoperable.
Ukraine played the economic warfare card against systemic Russian military corruption with this tank part scam.⬇️Corruption that Western defense & intelligence analysts pretended did not exist, career reasons.1/ https://t.co/01KTceEU4e
I absolutely 💘 it when smart people read history and draw the correct lessons rather than look for confirmation of the stupid 💩 bias their superiors believe in.3/3

 

God I love studying History. 

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#61380
2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Buying their tank components might be the best thing I’ve seen on this thread.

Brilliant.

It's pretty awesome, but did you see those two dudes get blown up while engaging in oral sex? 

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#61383
I think it's likely we are seeing UA shaping operations to force a reaction from the Russians. I find it unlikely Bakhmut direction will be the main effort of a UA offensive.

 

#61384
13 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Alternate response:

”A mouth is a mouth, especially in war.”

- Sun Tzu

Is this real? It’s not a gif… so it could be fake…..but this is the internet so….

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#61385
US accuses South Africa of supplying arms to RussiaUS has accused South Africa of supplying arms to Russia in a covert naval operation.“Among the things we noted was the docking of the cargo ship . . . 1/2
which we are confident uploaded weapons and ammunition on to that vessel in Simon’s Town as it made its way back to Russia,”“We are confident that weapons were loaded onto that vessel, and I would bet my life on the accuracy of that assertion,”https://t.co/OHzth0dbK2 2/2

 

#61386

Oh, well, that settles it. A high ranking Orc said so.

“Patriot missile defense system (MDS) couldn’t down a Kinzhal missile” per a high-ranking official from 🇷🇺 Defense Ministry.☝️Kinzhal’s velocity exceeds Western MDS specifications.@PentagonPresSec & 🇺🇸 media outlets, your reports are wishful thinking.https://t.co/XFOCxeIuK1

 

#61387
2 minutes ago, MillerEP said:
US accuses South Africa of supplying arms to RussiaUS has accused South Africa of supplying arms to Russia in a covert naval operation.“Among the things we noted was the docking of the cargo ship . . . 1/2
which we are confident uploaded weapons and ammunition on to that vessel in Simon’s Town as it made its way back to Russia,”“We are confident that weapons were loaded onto that vessel, and I would bet my life on the accuracy of that assertion,”https://t.co/OHzth0dbK2 2/2

 

Yeah, if you want to make an example of one of the remaining “BRICS” then “S” is for sure the weak link. Not a terrible idea to absolutely wreck them and then to ask the others to rethink nicely. 

#61390
⚡️ The Ukrainian Armed Forces launched an attack near Soledar and seek to encircle Bakhmut, the Kremlin's war correspondents said.According to them, Ukrainian forces with the support of several units and armored groups, each with 2-3 tanks, were able to organize a breakthrough.…
Russian reported Poddubyny talks about Ukrainian success at Soledad and other areas.

 

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#61391
29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Oh, well, that settles it. A high ranking Orc said so.

“Patriot missile defense system (MDS) couldn’t down a Kinzhal missile” per a high-ranking official from 🇷🇺 Defense Ministry.☝️Kinzhal’s velocity exceeds Western MDS specifications.@PentagonPresSec & 🇺🇸 media outlets, your reports are wishful thinking.https://t.co/XFOCxeIuK1

 

Trigonometry...how does it work? 

#61392
On 5/10/2023 at 9:46 AM, SydneyCarton said:

Japan may not be able to be in NATO, although I'm sure we could amend the charter somehow. At the same time, I'm sure NATO could unilaterally sign some form of wholesale treaty with Japan/Australia/South Korea that makes it basically the same thing. Might as well get to work on the problems in the Pacific as well, right?

Isn't that basically what SEATO was?

#61393
37 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Oh, well, that settles it. A high ranking Orc said so.

“Patriot missile defense system (MDS) couldn’t down a Kinzhal missile” per a high-ranking official from 🇷🇺 Defense Ministry.☝️Kinzhal’s velocity exceeds Western MDS specifications.@PentagonPresSec & 🇺🇸 media outlets, your reports are wishful thinking.https://t.co/XFOCxeIuK1

 

They just confirmed it then 

#61397
Mike @KofmanMichael and I wrote about the upcoming Ukrainian offensive and what comes afterwards. Although Ukraine will likely make gains, this offensive is unlikely to end the war. Western countries need a plan for supporting Ukraine for a long war.https://t.co/E9VpyB8Lie

 

#61398
"Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing distracting strikes against the Kursk, Bryansk and Belgorod regions" - GirkinFalse flag, remember this please 👍🏻

 

#61399
18 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Mike @KofmanMichael and I wrote about the upcoming Ukrainian offensive and what comes afterwards. Although Ukraine will likely make gains, this offensive is unlikely to end the war. Western countries need a plan for supporting Ukraine for a long war.https://t.co/E9VpyB8Lie

 

I'm not buying it. As Ukraine takes most of its territories back, the CSTO countries are going to create problems for Russia and Russia will fall.

#61400
4 hours ago, texastough said:

You don't think Shoigu is going to inform Putin about Prigozin's rants?

You're focusing on one specific thing. The other poster implied that of course Putin is extremely well informed. In all things. Because of course he must be, despite years or proof otherwise for all to see. This isn't the same as some underling power struggle and one whispering shit in Putin's ears. 

1 hour ago, KYHorn said:

 

Interesting note in the CNN article:

A Western official told CNN that the UK has received assurances from the Ukrainian government that these missiles will be used only within Ukrainian sovereign territory and not inside Russia

I guess there might be a Ukrainian side of the bridge they can hit? It also removes the possibility of hitting most of the airfields mapped here:

 

Crimea is Ukraine. So yeah. 

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