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#61651
Prigozhin calls for a rebellion. He called the "special military operation" a stupid war, soldiers - the only innocent ones, and the events on the frontlines - a tragedy.Will he be the one to start a revolution?

 

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    AUS-97HORN

    For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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    I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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#61652
11 minutes ago, The Dog said:
Prigozhin calls for a rebellion. He called the "special military operation" a stupid war, soldiers - the only innocent ones, and the events on the frontlines - a tragedy.Will he be the one to start a revolution?

 

You know, I'm beginning to think it might be a bad idea to put your cafeteria head in charge of a group of mercenaries, but maybe that's just me.  

#61653
4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

You know, I'm beginning to think it might be a bad idea to put your cafeteria head in charge of a group of mercenaries, but maybe that's just me.  

He will actually be careful about any tea he drinks.  Honestly didn’t have him on the bingo card for trying to start shit with Putin.  

#61654

 

Switzerland approved the supply of weapons to Ukraine, Euronews reports. Both chambers of the Swiss parliament voted for an amendment to the law on military materials. This will enable the transfer of weapons to Ukraine in the future. https://t.co/vDQ0RIsxMU
The size of the detonation, the precision of the strike, the quietness of the missile, and the use of ADM-160 MALD decoys, made it obvious that yesterday was the first use of Storm Shadow.Now Jimmy has irrefutable proof.And it's gonna get so much worse for the russians now 😄 https://t.co/nI7aECByno
1. On Friday, #Ukraine continued to advance on #Russia's flanks. In the south, Ukraine pressed further into the Russian lines. In the north, Ukraine attacked remaining entrenched Russian force near the #Khromove road. After that force was abandoned by retreating forces, Ukraine
Journalists say that Polish detectives received documents showing that Schroeder was using his positions on the boards of Russian energy companies to exert pressure on EU member states and Ukraine.
So, military analysts. We shot down an Su-34, then shot down the helicopter looking for the crew? Following that, we shot down an Su-35 then we shot down the helicopter looking for the crew...?No panic though.

 

#61655
11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

He will actually be careful about any tea he drinks.  Honestly didn’t have him on the bingo card for trying to start shit with Putin.  

it is possible that he’s going after the MOD and not Putin. 

#61658
1 hour ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

This guys up-talking kills me. Almost can't handle watching his videos.

Without his amazing big brain insights, I never would’ve known that the Chechens might have a better chance this time, now that Russia has lost all of its military supplies and troops

#61659
Initial Reports of 3M54-1 “Kalibr” Cruise Missile launches from Ships and Aircraft over the Black Sea towards Western and Central Ukraine with multiple possibly passing through Moldovan Airspace.
Russian State Media is claiming that the 4 Russian Military Aircraft which were Shot Down over the Bryansk Region were “Ambushed” by Ukrainian Air Defenses in the Chernihiv Region of Northeastern Ukraine in what was called a “Carefully Planned Operation.”
Prigozhin going full frenzy and basically calling for rebellion. The Kremlin already tried to tiptoe around Prigozhin's verbal attacks but this is too bold to be ignored, unless they want Wagner mercenaries starting to take matters in their hands.#Ukraine https://t.co/C8IFShLPNE— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

#61661

Can't all be good news, unfortunately, unconfirmed, was a fuel depot at an airport.  No word on casualties that I have seen, though I am venturing that there are least injuries.  Hopefully, just fuel, but its a big boom

 

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#61662

Twitters broke but this is good:

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16 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Can't all be good news, unfortunately, unconfirmed, was a fuel depot at an airport.  No word on casualties that I have seen, though I am venturing that there are least injuries.  Hopefully, just fuel, but its a big boom

 

 

ETA - it’s from Iran not Ukraine. Russia disinfo op (although there was a missile strike the video is from Iran)

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#61663
19 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Twitters broke but this is good:

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It’s old Soviet fuel oil that they don’t use.

They've almost lost as many colonels today as they have shot down their own aircraft.  

#61665
On 5/12/2023 at 2:50 PM, Orange&White said:

You are severely under-representing the drug and alcohol addicted Information Technology community that resides here, sir.

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#61667

Pope Francis and Zelenskyy meet. 
 

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Zelensky Meets Pope and Meloni in Italy to Bolster Ukraine’s Support

The Ukrainian president’s talks with the pope and Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni came at a potentially pivotal moment in the war against Russia, as Kyiv’s forces make advances near the key city of Bakhmut.

May 13, 2023Updated 3:38 p.m. ET
 

The pope and the president of Ukraine shaking hands. The president has a hand on his heart and is wearing military fatigues. President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine met Pope Francis in the Vatican on Saturday.Vatican Media, via Reuters

Weeks after Pope Francis bewildered the Ukrainian government with talk of a secret peace mission, President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine met Francis in the Vatican on Saturday, part of a whirlwind visit to Rome that included talks with Italy’s president and Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, both of whom offered their full support.

Mr. Zelensky’s discussions in Rome of war and peace come at a potentially pivotal moment in the fight against Russia, as Ukrainian forces make advances near the key eastern city of Bakhmut ahead of a widely anticipated Ukrainian counteroffensive, and as Germany announced its largest military aid packagefor Ukraine since the war began, saying it would provide 2.7 billion euros worth of weapons.

Italy added to that momentum, with Ms. Meloni, who greeted Mr. Zelensky warmly before a 70-minute meeting, affirming her staunch support of Ukraine’s war effort.

“We bet on the victory of Ukraine,” said Ms. Meloni, appearing next to Mr. Zelensky, whom she called her “friend” in a news conference at the Chigi Palace, the seat of Italian government, after the meeting. “Our support will be at 360 degrees for all the time necessary, and beyond.”

She said Mr. Zelensky’s decision to begin his most recent sweep through Europe in Rome — he is expected to visit Germany on Sunday — showed that Italy was a “protagonist” in the support of Ukraine, a “victim of a brutal and unjust aggression on the part of the Russian Republic.” She said Italy would continue to supply Ukraine with aid, “also military.”

Mr. Zelensky, who on Twitter had called the visit important for his country’s “approaching victory,” thanked Italy repeatedly for its assistance.

But the centerpiece, and most delicate stop, of Mr. Zelensky’s trip to Rome came as his motorcade rumbled up St. Peter’s Square and he walked through a Vatican entrance flanked by Swiss Guards and, wearing his trademark sweatshirt, shook Francis’ hand before sitting across a desk for a 40-minute meeting.

The pope has sought to position himself as a potential peacemaker in a way that critics, including Ukrainian officials, argue is counterproductive to the achievement not only of Ukrainian victory, but also of a real and just peace.

To preserve the Vatican’s traditional neutrality, Francis, while consistently expressing sympathy for the suffering of Ukrainians, has made often confusing and contradictory remarks about whether he blames President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia for the invasion of Ukraine. After recently meeting with Russian sympathizers in Hungary, the pope has sought to thrust himself into the discussion about the war’s endgame, cryptically speaking about “a mission going on now, but it is not public yet” to bring peace, adding “when it is public I will talk about it.”

Both Russia and Ukraine, overwhelmingly Orthodox, and not Roman Catholic, countries, said they had no idea what the pope was talking about. But the Vatican insisted that a peace plan was in the works. It was not clear if Mr. Zelensky’s visit was part of that plan, or resulted from the Ukrainian leader’s efforts to explain in person why such talk could be detrimental.

“I asked to condemn Russian crimes in Ukraine,” Mr. Zelensky said in a statement after the meeting with Francis, who gave him a bronze olive branch. “Because there can be no equality between the victim and the aggressor. I also talked about our Peace Formula as the only effective algorithm for achieving a just peace. I proposed joining its implementation.”

Asked afterwards on Italian television whether Francis, who had sought to stake out an equidistant position between Ukraine and Russia, could be a peacemaker between him and Mr. Putin, Mr. Zelensky said “with all respect for His Holiness,” Ukraine did not need mediators because “you can’t do mediation with Putin.” He said victory on the battlefield was essential, and coming, and saw no point in speaking with Mr. Putin, who was clearly acting in bad faith. “What are we going to talk about?”

The Vatican said only that the two men discussed the war and Francis assured Mr. Zelensky of his “constant prayer” for Ukraine and its most vulnerable, and that both men agreed on the need for continued humanitarian aid.

On Saturday, even before Mr. Zelensky’s arrival, Francis who abhors the arms trade and who has shown deep anxiety about the suffering caused by the 15-month conflict, spoke about how the war had “brought unspeakable suffering and death.” He added in a tweet a prayer for “paths of encounter and dialogue that lead toward peace, and grant us the courage to trod them without hesitation.”

Mr. Zelensky and Francis met in Rome for an official visit in 2020 before the war. But since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022, the pope has declined various invitations from the Ukrainian government to meet Mr. Zelensky in Kyiv.

Francis has stated that, in his hopes of eventually playing the role of a negotiator, he wanted any visit to Ukraine to be in conjunction with a visit to Moscow, but Mr. Putin has repeatedly made it clear that he wanted no such visit.

Francis’ openness to dialogue has also, especially in the beginning of the war, drawn criticism for assuming a neutrality that critics considered morally questionable in the face of clear Russian aggression.

There was no such ambiguity from the Italian government.

Analysts expected Mr. Zelensky to ask for more Italian military support, especially for antiaircraft weapons.

“Today we discussed our cooperation, particularly security and military cooperation,” Mr. Zelensky said at a news conference. “There are very important decisions regarding the protection of our sky.”

Ms. Meloni has remained solid in her defense of Kyiv and she warned about a widespread “propaganda” effort by Russia to distract from the fact that it had invaded Ukraine. She said that Ukraine’s independence was the only acceptable outcome, and that peace could not be attained “with surrender” by Kyiv.

She called for the withdrawal of Russian forces and the end of its aggression, which she described as “dangerous for all of Europe and all the nations of the world.”

But Ms. Meloni, who appeared next to Pope Francis on Friday at an event about bolstering the Italian fertility rate, also had to manage her neighbor in the Vatican across the Tiber River, saying that she supported the efforts of the pope, adding, “we are very happy for this initiative.”

Mr. Zelensky thanked Ms. Meloni for Italy’s role in defending Ukraine and accepting so many of its refugees.

But as Mr. Zelensky seeks to shore up concrete support of bullets, missiles and other arms for his country’s defense, he has also sought to win over the pope. Despite the pontiff having no divisions, as Stalin once famously noted, he still exercises a moral authority that Mr. Zelensky wants more clearly on his side.

Supporters of Ukraine worried that the pope’s eagerness to play a constructive role was making him a pawn of Mr. Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church, which has sought to give religious legitimacy to the invasion.

Adding to Ukrainian concerns were the pope’s kind words for Aleksandr Avdeyev, for years the Russian ambassador to the Holy See, whom he has praised in the past. On the flight back from Budapest he called Mr. Avdeyev “a great man, a man comme il faut, a serious, cultured and balanced person.”

On Saturday, the Italian newspaper Il Messaggero reported that Francis had met this past week with Mr. Avdeyev and may have given him a letter to take back to Mr. Putin. That close relationship vexed Ukraine’s ambassador to the Holy See, Andrii Yurash, who recently met with top Vatican officials to express Kyiv’s concerns that the Russian Orthodox Church was trying to gain “legitimacy” through its relationship with the Vatican for “obvious aims of Russian propaganda.”

The Vatican has actively tried to engage with both sides, working on prisoner releases and promising the Ukrainians that it would do what it could to help return children taken by Russia.

In May 2022, Francis wondered in an interview with the Corriere della Sera, an Italian newspaper, whether “NATO barking at Russia’s doors” may have “facilitated” anger from the Kremlin that led to the invasion.

On Saturday, Ms. Meloni, at least, made it clear that the Italian government saw the blame resting fully on Russia, and that the only acceptable peace was one that met Ukraine’s conditions.

“We are not so hypocritical as to call peace,” she said, anything that “resembles an invasion.”

 

#61668
10 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Russian pilots must be really shitty if they’re getting shot down by the Russian air defense

It's like the aggy spring game. 

#61670
3 hours ago, The Dog said:

Twitters broke but this is good:

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ETA - it’s from Iran not Ukraine. Russia disinfo op (although there was a missile strike the video is from Iran)

Where did you see that it was from Iran?

#61671
7 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

So somebody tell me how a full-on panic withdrawal plays out in Russia amongst the elite/propagandists…?

The coup won't be bloodless? 

Neither will the civil war and dissolution.  

All are guesses on my end, but those who can leave will flee to Dubai or quite frankly anywhere to get the hell out there.  My best guess is several republics if not many in far reaching areas of Eastern Russia will establish independence bloodlessly, and with backing from China.  Anything to west of the Urals will be ugly, and very violent.  What you have are a bunch of warlords like Kadyrov who will fight each other in factional conflicts.  Someone will attempt to centralize power in Moscow, but this will fail miserably because of the dog eat dog nature of what Putin has set up.  You will see mass starvation and an explosion of gang violence in Moscow and St. Petersburg without western aid and intervention (which may well not be possible).  Without centralized power of resources (of which Moscow and to a lesser extent St. Petersburg derives its wealth via financial control) poverty will explode in what will ultimately becomes small duchy's.  

In short the wealthy will flee or run the risk of being caught up in all this, or worse, be made dead.  Ordinary European Russians will suffer, immensely.  Asian Russians will have an opportunity to forge a new path, albeit under the sponsorship of mostly likely China.  

All of this is my best guess, and quite frankly, I'm sure I'm also wrong on at least some of it, as well as I am sure I am insanely wrong on at least some of it.  I'm not wrong on the elite and wealthy having escape plans already formulated and them fleeing.  

#61672
3 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

The coup won't be bloodless? 

Neither will the civil war and dissolution.  

All are guesses on my end, but those who can leave will flee to Dubai or quite frankly anywhere to get the hell out there.  My best guess is several republics if not many in far reaching areas of Eastern Russia will establish independence bloodlessly, and with backing from China.  Anything to west of the Urals will be ugly, and very violent.  What you have are a bunch of warlords like Kadyrov who will fight each other in factional conflicts.  Someone will attempt to centralize power in Moscow, but this will fail miserably because of the dog eat dog nature of what Putin has set up.  You will see mass starvation and an explosion of gang violence in Moscow and St. Petersburg without western aid and intervention (which may well not be possible).  Without centralized power of resources (of which Moscow and to a lesser extent St. Petersburg derives its wealth via financial control) poverty will explode in what will ultimately becomes small duchy's.  

In short the wealthy will flee or run the risk of being caught up in all this, or worse, be made dead.  Ordinary European Russians will suffer, immensely.  Asian Russians will have an opportunity to forge a new path, albeit under the sponsorship of mostly likely China.  

All of this is my best guess, and quite frankly, I'm sure I'm also wrong on at least some of it, as well as I am sure I am insanely wrong on at least some of it.  I'm not wrong on the elite and wealthy having escape plans already formulated and them fleeing.  

….and bad people will buy nuclear weapons from them during the shit. Which is why the west will intervene and help them with $$ and food in exchange for nukes. 

#61673
….and bad people will buy nuclear weapons from them during the shit. Which is why the west will intervene and help them with $$ and food in exchange for nukes. 
We need to send in Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Lee Curtis!
#61674
7 hours ago, Gatorubet said:
"Capturing Bakhmut means nothing because flanks are crumbling, the front is failing...it will lead to global tragedy for Russia" - Prigozhin continues blaming the Russian army for fleeing and leaving 5 km near Bakhmut.

Margarita said to keep that talk in the kitchen. 

How amazing would it be if we knew where he was, but we’re just waiting for him to do a live broadcast…then boom

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#61675

Putin will go to his grave knowing he destroyed Russia. 

I'm good with that. 

#61676
32 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

The coup won't be bloodless? 

Neither will the civil war and dissolution.  

All are guesses on my end, but those who can leave will flee to Dubai or quite frankly anywhere to get the hell out there.  My best guess is several republics if not many in far reaching areas of Eastern Russia will establish independence bloodlessly, and with backing from China.  Anything to west of the Urals will be ugly, and very violent.  What you have are a bunch of warlords like Kadyrov who will fight each other in factional conflicts.  Someone will attempt to centralize power in Moscow, but this will fail miserably because of the dog eat dog nature of what Putin has set up.  You will see mass starvation and an explosion of gang violence in Moscow and St. Petersburg without western aid and intervention (which may well not be possible).  Without centralized power of resources (of which Moscow and to a lesser extent St. Petersburg derives its wealth via financial control) poverty will explode in what will ultimately becomes small duchy's.  

In short the wealthy will flee or run the risk of being caught up in all this, or worse, be made dead.  Ordinary European Russians will suffer, immensely.  Asian Russians will have an opportunity to forge a new path, albeit under the sponsorship of mostly likely China.  

All of this is my best guess, and quite frankly, I'm sure I'm also wrong on at least some of it, as well as I am sure I am insanely wrong on at least some of it.  I'm not wrong on the elite and wealthy having escape plans already formulated and them fleeing.  

 

#61677
1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

So somebody tell me how a full-on panic withdrawal plays out in Russia amongst the elite/propagandists…?

Are you talking about the strategic repositioning of Soviet Russian forces to defend the Motherland from NATO?

#61679
In late January, Zelensky urged Ukraine to carry out strikes on Russia and to move Ukrainian troops to occupy "unspecified Russian border cities"The aim would be to give Ukraine leverage in diplomacy with Russia /2
Russian Telegram channels and the Wagner Group are warning of the entry of Russia's 1991 borders into the frontlinesThese revelations will fuel their contentions, while also undermining Zelensky's official opposition to striking Russia /4

 

#61680
Zelensky's level of outrage with Hungary's Viktor Orban was also revealed In a mid-February 2023 meeting with Deputy PM Yuliya Svrydenko, Zelensky proposed that Ukraine strike the Druzhba pipeline to cripple Hungary's Russian oil dependence /6
You can read more in this exclusive from The Washington Post https://t.co/5tzHyseQh6

 

#61681
Lukashenko is missing, no where to be seenlast report is that he is sick in hospital. so would the army and internal security be ok with a russian take over?they just had huge protests, is belarus ready to join europe or be part of a dying russia?thats the question.

 

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#61683
9 minutes ago, Bevo said:

 

 

 

The Washington Post gets its info. primarily from Democrats. So when I see it trying to change the image of Zelensky, I wonder whether the changed image is true or whether there is a reason to change the picture. I would say that the US wants to push back on the supply of offensive weapons such as F16s and ATACMS. Maybe they want to set the stage for a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia. Maybe, we want a bit of de-escalation as well. I think the war will end favorably for Ukraine but, I don't like this talk one bit.

In thinking about this, I don't have a problem with Zelensky saying this things or even having them explored.

1.  If I were leading a country and it was being attacked, would I have the desire to attack that country back?  Yep

2.  If mercenaries were killing my soldiers and citizens and I had a chance to fuck them up on another country's soil would I consider it?  Yep

3.  If my neighbor was openly undermining support for my country in favor of the attacker and quite frankly was compromised due to oil, would I consider blowing up their access to that?  Yes I would

 

I know all if this is painting with a broad brush, and I understand the slow play on long range weapons, but to be honest, I think the Ukrainians thinking this way and even putting together plans is understandable.  They have been attacked, and their people are being murdered.  For me, all bets are off in a situation like that.  The good news, is that he was persuaded to not pursue these objectives in order to get munitions and weapons, which shows him to be rational.  

Our objective, and NATO's as a whole, is to keep the peace but support a war.  That's sort of fucked up to be honest, but given all the circumstances is understandable.  At the same time, that means Ukraine and its objective (mainly to survive and win) won't always align in a nice and pretty way.  Theirs is a struggle for existence, while ours is a struggle for stability (right, wrong or indifferent).  Those two things are always going to be congruent.  

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#61684

If all of these reports are true I would say Zelensky is acting in the best interests of his country. 

Can't imagine being in his position of constantly having to lick the balls of western leaders to save his country.

Forced to play politics while children are being slaughtered, and "adopted" by the enemy.

Jfc. 

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#61686
1 hour ago, Bevo said:

The Washington Post gets its info. primarily from Democrats. So when I see it trying to change the image of Zelensky, I wonder whether the changed image is true or whether there is a reason to change the picture. I would say that the US wants to push back on the supply of offensive weapons such as F16s and ATACMS. Maybe they want to set the stage for a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia. Maybe, we want a bit of de-escalation as well. I think the war will end favorably for Ukraine but, I don't like this talk one bit.

On the one hand, the US would love to see Russia knocked way the hell down, Putin out of power, and somebody like Navalny quickly taking over and transitioning Russia to a a nation not obsessed with recreating the Soviet Union and exploiting its smaller neighbors.  It would stabilize Europe, which is our largest trading partner, and frees up resources we have committed there that would better be utilized elsewhere, and clears our plate to focus on the Chinese, and arguably might benefit us in the Middle East and would definitely help in Africa.

On the other hand, I'd imagine that the spooks in the CIA, DIA, etc., are scared shitless that if things develop too fast and Russia's military in Ukraine completely collapses, and Putin's hold on power collapses, then instead of somebody like Navalny "peacefully" coming to power quickly and stabilizing the country, there's going to be a dozen Kadyrov's and Prigozhins fighting each other.  There could be somebody (oligarchs looking to reclaim their fortunes? or military officers) taking over nuke bases/weapons and selling them off to the highest bidders as well, and we'll end up with one or more Yugoslavia-like situations in some of the outer republics, maybe a few Azerbaijan vs Armenia flare-ups, China moving into Siberia, etc., all of which would also complicate the nuclear issue.

There's no way we'd have the ability to secure Russia's nukes.

It's a nightmare scenario that could spawn a dozen new Tom Clancy books.

Russia has a history of things rapidly falling apart, but the one time it happened when they had nuclear weapons, it was fairly peaceful (outside of some dead Baltic residents the Russians killed) and they were able to keep their nukes secured. 

If Russia implodes now, there's no way it's peaceful.

I'm in the camp that wants to see Ukraine curb-stomp Russia, but I wonder if Washington is scared shitless that Russia will fall apart and those nukes won't be easily secured.  Counterpoint: Putin is paranoid and the nukes are secured in just a few locations with highly-loyal/stable security personnel.  The last thing he needs it a Chechen getting one and driving a truck into Moscow with one.

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#61690

Ukraine's water drones have improved considerably....the funny thing is, this could be misinformation (I doubt it, but you never know) and it would still force the Russians to devote resources to protecting against it, and probably limit the movement of their ships.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/05/innovative-submarine-drone-is-ukraines-new-weapon-against-russian-navy/

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Ukraine is becoming known for using unconventional naval vessels against the Russian Navy. It's 'maritime drones', which are robot boats loaded with explosives, have helped shape the war in the Black Sea. Now a new maritime drone has been revealed, one which operates like a small submarine.

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One of the new weapons on show when Brave1 was officially launched is of particular interest from a navy perspective. It is a small robotic submarine, the Toloka TLK-150 maritime drone.

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But the resulting void in ythe northern Black Sea is far from being a Ukrainian lake. The Russians can still operate there to launch missiles, or to support ground operations if the need arrives. And Ukrainian vessels, even the small USVs, can be picked off by Russian aircraft. So it is perhaps natural that Ukraine is developing robotic submarines, known formally as uncrewed underwater vehicle (UUV).

Ukraine-Toloka-TLK-150-maritime-drone.jp

 

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The TLK-150 is the first indigenous UUV revealed. The design is unconventional, showing its homegrown nature. It has larger stabilizers than other UUVs and much wider spaces propulsors (propellers). This may not be a bad thing, and it shows that it is not a mere copy of anything going before. This small weapon complements the now famous uncrewed surface vessels (USVs) which already threaten the Russian Navy in its main base at Sevastopol.

 

#61691

 

Also, the Ukrainian defenders shot down 3 russian reconnaissance UAVs type "Orlan-10", destroyed 2 reconnaissance drones type "Zala", 4 "Lancet" kamikaze drones, and 5 drones of unidentified type.
The Ukrainian units hit 4 areas of concentration of russian soldiers, russian MLSR at the firing position, 2 air defense equipment, 2 ammunition depots, as well as 2 EW stations.👉 Follow @Flash_news_ua

 

#61692

Additional info about the Storm Shadow

BROACH is a two stage 450 kg (2000 lb) warhead with a shaped charge explosive to punch a hole into armor, concrete etc., followed by a semi-armor piercing stage that will penetrate down that hole deeply into a hardened target or concrete structure.11/
The three highest priority targets for such a Storm Shadow warhead are the Kerch Straits Railway Bridge followed by the eastern and western Crimean Peninsula isthmus railway bridges.  Destroying those three bridges simultaneously will cause a 'systemic shock' to 13/

 

...in the event of the impending Ukrainian Offensives.Additionally, if the Ukrainians are smart and aim their Storm Shadows for bringing down the Kerch bridge section over the Azov sea ship channel entrance.  They may be able to stop freighter transits for however long15/

 

#61693

The competing narratives are interesting here 

 

Information about Bryansk 👀This is not Russian air defense 😏Our special operation :)We tricked the Russians into sending more help to the already downed helicopters, lol 👌🏻 Fantastic work 🇺🇦Apparently this is just the beginning, the Black Sea Fleet better get ready! 😶
Russian Telegram channels are pointing to Ukrainian MANPADS or sabotage behind the linesIt is important to remember that Ukraine does not publicly acknowledge operations on Russian territory and often belatedly acknowledges them in occupied Crimea
The Russian command post in Klishchiivka, south of Bakhmut, has been struck. The Russian MoD admits the death of Colonel Vyacheslav Makarov and Colonel Yevgeny Brovko.Russian mil-bloggers also claim that the commander of the 124th brigade has been killed, plus around 20-40 KIA.— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

Additional info on that strike. I don't know anything, but that seems really close to the front lines

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#61695
49 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Additional info about the Storm Shadow

BROACH is a two stage 450 kg (2000 lb) warhead with a shaped charge explosive to punch a hole into armor, concrete etc., followed by a semi-armor piercing stage that will penetrate down that hole deeply into a hardened target or concrete structure.11/
The three highest priority targets for such a Storm Shadow warhead are the Kerch Straits Railway Bridge followed by the eastern and western Crimean Peninsula isthmus railway bridges.  Destroying those three bridges simultaneously will cause a 'systemic shock' to 13/

 

...in the event of the impending Ukrainian Offensives.Additionally, if the Ukrainians are smart and aim their Storm Shadows for bringing down the Kerch bridge section over the Azov sea ship channel entrance.  They may be able to stop freighter transits for however long15/

 

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On 5/12/2023 at 5:11 PM, The Dog said:

 

 

On 5/12/2023 at 5:21 PM, atomheartbevo said:

I'm mesmerized. That feels like some kind of 60s lounge music/emcee selling me on a weapons system.

 

On 5/12/2023 at 5:54 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Same, and I don’t have the slightest damn clue which rep selection is the most correct choice. 

the correct choice was completing the rep cycle

#61699

My favorite air combat sim folks have got ya covered if you're wondering what Storm Shadow's (probable) capabilities are

Ukraine is gonna sweep the leg on russia's logistics and really powerfully shape the battlefield to their advantage.

 

Not to mention, Ukraine is making extensive use of MALD drones to make it even harder to detect and intercept the actual threat

 

Edit: these guys did also test Patriot v Iskander a couple months ago and found that Patriot could do the job. Then we see it happen in reality. Crazy stuff that a heavily modded videogame is able to get such an accurate result 

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BREAKING:Poland’s Defense Minister @mblaszczak just announced that Poland’s first HIMARS units will arrive from the US tomorrow.🇵🇱🇺🇸
Good map showing Ukrainian gains around Bakhmut (which are not that large to this point). They seem to be making their supply lines more secure, and trying to force the Russians to commit more forces to try and hold their positions. https://t.co/qBVGbfvnYW

 

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