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#61851

Quickly approaching the time where Wagner completes the offensive and likely hands over responsibility of defending it to the regular army so that they can be blamed when it falls.

Footage itself shows how Ukrainian artillery targets Wagner units.

 

Map Source: @Deepstate_UA

 

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    For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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#61852
3 hours ago, troph said:

Good read but he doesn’t really say why Ukraine will push Russia all the way back. 

Hertling's guesses have proven to be better than many folks' facts.

He has more or less predicted the war to this point based on his experiences as the head of US forces in Europe, having seen both the Ukraine military and Russian shitshow firsthand.

#61853
7 hours ago, Rimbo said:
My Washington Post subscription allows me to share access to great journalism. Check out this gift article, at no cost to you.Read here: https://t.co/OuOa959f7N

 

That's a great article.

If I had omnipotent power over everything that's written and said in the west about the upcoming offensive, I would make it so people were consistently downplaying the objectives that could be achieved with the upcoming counteroffensive. It does Ukraine very little good to talk about how successful it's going to be, even by someone as knowledgeable and prescient as Mark Hertling. In some ways even especially by him. I don't have that power, and there is some good served by giving out a positive narrative about Ukraine's capabilities and Russia's deficiencies. It's just in my opinion that whatever good is done by buoying spirits in the West as we wait for it to transpire are not as beneficial as lowering expectations so that what Ukraine does accomplish is seen as a spectacular success, whatever that is. 

But that's just me.

I'll also say in reading that article it made me wonder if Douglas MacArthur wrote a similar letter prior to his landings at Inchon. Probably not. 

#61854
5 hours ago, Rimbo said:
Media: @MarkHertling to @wolfblitzer: "A #Ukrainian commander, General Zaluzhnyi, can do two things right now: pick the time and pick the place" of Kyiv's offensive. "Once he picks it, he's going to go full force. Some of the things we're seeing now will pale in significance."

 

More Hertling, for those too lazy to read his op ed piece.

It takes like 30 seconds. It's not some kind of deep dive. People love to complain about how long my posts are. I do not understand the perception that reading takes so much time and energy. Or that skipping over it is such a chore. 

Not really attacking your post, because it's relevant. It just constantly shocks me at how relevant it is. 

#61855
54 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

It takes like 30 seconds. It's not some kind of deep dive. People love to complain about how long my posts are. I do not understand the perception that reading takes so much time and energy. Or that skipping over it is such a chore. 

Not really attacking your post, because it's relevant. It just constantly shocks me at how relevant it is. 

Well, the added bit in the CNN blurb is "Some of the things we're seeing now pale in significance." That's an interesting sentiment that wasn't in the Op Ed.

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#61856
They also say they shot down 3 ISR UAVs, including an Orlan and a, cough, Supercam. Clearly, Russia launched a diversity of missiles and drones from different directions to try to confuse Ukrainian air defenses. 2/

 

#61857
Russia’s FSB is raiding train and bus stations in Crimea The crackdown on pro Ukraine partisan activity intensifies
This is likely to be a flashpoint issue at the G7 summit where Narendra Modi is an inviteeConcerns are growing that India, the top oil importer from Russia, is reselling Russian diesel fuel into European markets

 

#61858
#Ukraine wants to receive 40-50 F-16 fighters from its partners, Politico reports citing an adviser to the Minister of Defense of Ukraine.
Russia's defense spending increased by 282%, Reuters writes. In January and February 2023, Russia spent $26 billion on defense, which is 282% more than in the same period in 2022. https://t.co/sMgblYB7Z1

 

#61860
7 hours ago, Dahobbs said:
There is some speculation on a possible hit on a Patriot battery near Kyiv. Key points:First, while that’s entirely possible, Patriots, like every missile, do fail, sometimes spectacularly right on launch (see example below). So a flash of light or something near a battery…

 

 

Was coming to post this. Hopefully not destroyed and I’d not expect perfect clarity on this. 
 

If true, my first concern is loss of life and second concern is if it will be replaced. This would be a classic reminder that the enemy gets a vote and that sending things to a war means they may get lost. But we’d be learning SO much about how adversaries would target our AD in the future. 
 

A deployed Patriot battery has a massive footprint and blasts TONS of radiation. They’re really hard to hide. 

#61861

Also— a full Patriot battery deployed spreads out over a square kilometer and several vehicles. So an open ? on as to what exactly was “got”’ if anything. A radar would be a worse than a launcher. 

#61862
17 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Also— a full Patriot battery deployed spreads out over a square kilometer and several vehicles. So an open ? on as to what exactly was “got”’ if anything. A radar would be a worse than a launcher. 

The video that showed the "destruction" wasn't very convincing. There is a single flash after the launcher appears to stop firing. However, the flash is pretty consistent with the flash that occurs with a defensive missile launch. My best guess is that it was either a missile launch failure or a missile being launched in a direction that the camera doesn't see. We also have no way of knowing if it was a patriot battery. At either rate, it really didn't seem like an explosion from a target being destroyed. Kinzhal and kalibr have a large warheads. 

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#61863
2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Russia’s FSB is raiding train and bus stations in Crimea The crackdown on pro Ukraine partisan activity intensifies
This is likely to be a flashpoint issue at the G7 summit where Narendra Modi is an inviteeConcerns are growing that India, the top oil importer from Russia, is reselling Russian diesel fuel into European markets

 

Looks like Arun Kumar Singh is gonna be in the market for a new super yacht.

 

https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/corporate/story/retired-bpcl-chairman-arun-kumar-singh-appointed-ongc-head-355522-2022-12-07

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#61865

 

Ukraine hit Russia's Seshcha airbase 150 km north of border with drone attackLaunch site for Russia's Shahed suicide drones fired at Ukrainian citiesVitally important RU An-124 heavy transport plane likely damaged#Ukraine #UkraineRussiaWar️ #Russia https://t.co/UXAN44yBu5

Aww shit. The Russians have proof (!) of the destroyed Patriot and even seem to have hit a HIMARS

 

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#61868
6 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Is the HIMAR launching timber? 

"They're already out of regular HIMARS missiles and are resorting to trees!" -Russians

#61870
2/ The Russian prisoners' rights group 'Russia Behind Bars' has published an interview with a man identified as Alexander Gadzhiev. He says that prisoners who do not follow orders face "zeroing out" (being killed) or "plus three" as punishments.

 

4/ A Wagner contract is supposed to be for six months, following which the convict is released and given a pardon for his crimes. Earlier this year, the Russian government banned Wagner from recruiting more prisoners from Russia's penal colonies.
6/ Gadzhiev and his colleague Eduard Stanislavovich Zakhtsyk, a convicted murderer, were reportedly captured by the Ukrainians at Ivanivske near Bakhmut on 11 May (in the blue area of the map below).

 

7/ The two men say their unit had "colossal" losses. Zakhtsyk says that out of a squad of 600 men, 120 remain alive. "They send us there like meat. We are not valued. We are, as it turns out, expendable material," complains Gadzhiev. /endSource:https://t.co/kuv0pZCqb3

 

#61871
47 minutes ago, troph said:

Yeah just would have liked deeper analysis but then to  earlier points ain’t nobody got time to read that.

It's 11 paragraphs. It literally takes as long as reading one page of a Surly thread.

#61874
2 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

Taking out oil infrastructure in Russia...

That's the plot that kicked off Tom Clancy and Larry Bond's Red Storm Rising novel, which saw the Soviets attacking NATO and trying to take over part of the Middle East.

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#61875
Weapon systems that impressed the world in the last year:🇺🇸HIMARS / GMLRS🇺🇸Patriot PAC-3🇩🇪IRIS-T🇸🇪🇬🇧NLAW🇺🇸Javelin🇫🇷CAESAR🇩🇪PzH 2000Weapon systems that made the world laugh:🇷🇺Su-34🇷🇺Su-35🇷🇺Iskander🇷🇺Kinzhal🇷🇺Pantsir🇷🇺T-90🇷🇺S-400¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

#61877
1 hour ago, troph said:

Yeah just would have liked deeper analysis but then to  earlier points ain’t nobody got time to read that.

Sometimes I like to kick back and read an in depth analysis then sometimes I'm just looking for Stephen A Smtih to scream a hot take at me. 

Depends on the hangover.

#61878
The russian ministry of defense's press service is more powerful than most countries' armies.russia doesn’t even need an army to conquer the entire world; its state media and MoD spokesperson konashenkov are more than adequate.

 

#61879
4 minutes ago, The Dog said:
The russian ministry of defense's press service is more powerful than most countries' armies.russia doesn’t even need an army to conquer the entire world; its state media and MoD spokesperson konashenkov are more than adequate.

 

Weird that Russia's MOD doesn't know that the Kinzhal is not a hypersonic glide vehicle at all. It is a ballistic missile. The only hypersonic glide vehicle Russia has is (allegedly) the Avangard. 

#61880
5 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Weird that Russia's MOD doesn't know that the Kinzhal is not a hypersonic glide vehicle at all. It is a ballistic missile. The only hypersonic glide vehicle Russia has is (allegedly) the Avangard. 

I'm pretty sure "Hypersonic Glide" is a Radiohead song.  I'm not sure, because I don't get Radiohead.  Like, at all.

#61882
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm pretty sure "Hypersonic Glide" is a Radiohead song.  I'm not sure, because I don't get Radiohead.  Like, at all.

Close...it's actually a Funkadelic song.

#61884

I realize there’s a war going on, but Zelenskyy’s cultivated this look of being straight off the front, with khaki’s and a sweater/sweatshirt when he travels to other countries. Put on a suit man, you can still be President of a country at war while wearing one. Baby rant over…

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#61885
5 minutes ago, GoPokes83 said:

I realize there’s a war going on, but Zelenskyy’s cultivated this look of being straight off the front, with khaki’s and a sweater/sweatshirt when he travels to other countries. Put on a suit man, you can still be President of a country at war while wearing one. Baby rant over…

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#61886
2 hours ago, GoPokes83 said:

I realize there’s a war going on, but Zelenskyy’s cultivated this look of being straight off the front, with khaki’s and a sweater/sweatshirt when he travels to other countries. Put on a suit man, you can still be President of a country at war while wearing one. Baby rant over…

Bad take, imo. It's important in its messaging and symbolism- to those in his country who are suffering and for whom life is dramatically different than it was 400+ days ago, and to others around the world as a reminder that Ukraine is still a country under attack and in desperate need of assistance. A suit doesn't send that message- it says "good as new" and "business as usual".

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#61887

I don’t know what constitutes a hypersonic missile, but right now wiki calls it hypersonic and says it’s claimed top velocity is Mach 10-13. 
But I didn’t bother to follow the citing on the page so…

 

and here’s a Reuters article calling them hypersonic 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/air-defence-systems-repelling-attacks-ukraine-early-tuesday-officials-2023-05-16/

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#61888
Meanwhile in Russia: Scott Ritter asserts, "I went to prison for 3 years because of what I believe in."

He went to prison for three years because he exposed himself over the internet to somebody (a cop) who repeatedly identified themselves as a 15 year-old.

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#61890
36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm pretty sure "Hypersonic Glide" is a Radiohead song.  I'm not sure, because I don't get Radiohead.  Like, at all.

 

34 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Close...it's actually a Funkadelic song.

You're both wrong.

It's a lube for special operations that was being developed by @NowThis.

#61891

I'm thinking the Patriot "system" that was destroyed was a single missile that got in front of their missile which is exactly what it was supposed to do.

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Meanwhile in Russia: Scott Ritter asserts, "I went to prison for 3 years because of what I believe in."

Yeah.  As in "I believe I'd like to fuck a minor."

What a huge piece of shit.

#61896
Russian servicemen who record videos with gratitude to volunteers supporting them with equipment are sent to the frontline without artillery support, the Russian channel "Dva Mayora" tells. State secret protection service considers volunteer help discreditation of the Russian…

 

#61897
3 hours ago, troph said:

Yeah just would have liked deeper analysis but then to  earlier points ain’t nobody got time to read that.

 

I think it's more the case that:

1. if he knew specifics, OpSec requires him not to share, and

2. He's already spent the last few years pounding home the point that he's seen both these armies up close and personal, and that, plus his training and experience, is what leads him to his conclusions.

UA is well trained, well led, well supplied and above all, highly motivated. Orcs are the opposite of these, to an extreme.

He's also made the point that this is why democratic regimes are more powerful militarily than authoritarian ones.

 

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Is that a parody account or a moron propagandist?

 

Who can tell any more?

 

1 hour ago, The Dog said:
The russian ministry of defense's press service is more powerful than most countries' armies.russia doesn’t even need an army to conquer the entire world; its state media and MoD spokesperson konashenkov are more than adequate.

 

Overnight all Russia peace cruise missiles successfully intercepted evil, imperialist air defence missiles they were absolutely aimed at.Any damage caused by their debris is thus Kiev & its Western backer's fault.
Love my Irish tankies. They look at Ukraine, with its large, nuclear armed eastern neighbor that has violent, imperialist & brutal history of conquest against it, whose language they don't respect & still decides "those are the good guys in all this" https://t.co/1tgf1byWxs

☝️and more from Darth Putin because he's been absolutely on fire today

#61898
Day 447 of my 3 day war. Last night spent several hundred million dollars to prove even my best missiles suck against Western air defense. I remain a master strategist.

 

Interesting sign that the Russians are worried…their bots/trolls no longer feel they can say Ukrainian successes like last night didn’t happen, they try to weaken that narrative by saying things like ‘I heard the Patriots were destroyed though’…..it’s all a little too desperate

 

Do not believe *anything* until the Kremlin denies it™️ https://t.co/Tq7HqSXj9T

 

Within days, Ukrainian forces liberated about 20 km² north and south of Bakhmut. Meanwhile, Russians are making some advances in the city itself, destroying it with artillery and bringing in units of professional paratroopers, according to 🇺🇦Dep Def Minhttps://t.co/qtWVw2Vl7v

 

#61899
BREAKING: Ukraine says that it has regained 20 square kilometers of territory around Bakhmut
The Ukrainian Defence Ministry did acknowledge that Russian paratroopers are advancing inside BakhmutBut Russia's ability to hold those advances without the flanks is doubtful

 

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#61900
1 hour ago, GoPokes83 said:

I realize there’s a war going on, but Zelenskyy’s cultivated this look of being straight off the front, with khaki’s and a sweater/sweatshirt when he travels to other countries. Put on a suit man, you can still be President of a country at war while wearing one. Baby rant over…

You have historically shitty takes about pretty much everything. Take a lap.

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