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#64901

In the absence of factual information, I'll make some up use my idle time wisely. 

My GoogleEarth map, showing main railroads in Occupied Ukraine

The NE-SW line from Volnovakha-Polohy-Tokmak-Melitopol is the critical supply line to Crimea, and basically everything Southwest of Donetsk.  Controlling any portion of the line isolates Crimea by rail, and cuts off any Russian troops to the west from supplies by rail. 

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Same map, zoomed in, showing the main roads & highways, depicting how those smaller towns are choke points of road & rail traffic across Russian occupied Ukraine. Interesting thought on the movement of Russian troops from the flooded Dnieper River. Were they moved far enough east to provide meaningful support or will they be cut off and isolated by advancing Ukraine troops? Pretty much all cultivated farmland from there to the coast, "...I'm ten years burning down the road...Nowhere to run ain't got nowhere to go."

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    For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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    I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to…

Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.

It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to Hungary and the Russian Orthodox Church.

This press conference was a mandatory condition for the removal of prisoners from the Russian Federation.

#64904

I love to see the HIMARS take out a clustered group of Russian leadership, but make no mistake- Ukrainian civilians are going to pay for it, with their lives, and tortured before dying. That’s what happened in Kharkiv and Bucha- when things start going south, they decide the locals must be helping and the Russians get real vicious. 

#64905
17 minutes ago, KYHorn said:
Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to…

Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.

It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to Hungary and the Russian Orthodox Church.

This press conference was a mandatory condition for the removal of prisoners from the Russian Federation.

The fuck is wrong with this guy?  I get he wants to march along as dictator of Hungary, but how does provoking the rest of the EU help him with that in the long run?  

1 minute ago, statsman said:

I love to see the HIMARS take out a clustered group of Russian leadership, but make no mistake- Ukrainian civilians are going to pay for it, with their lives, and tortured before dying. That’s what happened in Kharkiv and Bucha- when things start going south, they decide the locals must be helping and the Russians get real vicious. 

They're going to do that anyhow.

#64907
1 minute ago, statsman said:

I love to see the HIMARS take out a clustered group of Russian leadership, but make no mistake- Ukrainian civilians are going to pay for it, with their lives, and tortured before dying. That’s what happened in Kharkiv and Bucha- when things start going south, they decide the locals must be helping and the Russians get real vicious. 

That was a storm shadow strike (doesn't change your point).,

There aren't that many locals in the area. That's on the spit at the mouth of the Dnipro. It was a tourist area previously. 

I don't think Bucha had anything to do with partisans. The people responsible for those horrors were ordered to clear the area of human beings. Not as a reprisal, but as a strategy to sow terror and to make sure there wouldn't be any distractions. 

I'm not sure what you're referring to with Kharkiv. Russia has never occupied it. 

To me Russians are going to be vicious regardless. They abduct children. They blow up prisoners of war. They execute civilians with gunshots to the back of their heads. They blow up dams, but first make sure they've taken or destroyed every flotation device for the people who will be most impacted before they do so. Then they shoot at people who try to evacuate, and shell evacuation centers.

They target hospitals and medical personnel, even setting up traps where they can target anyone taking away the wounded. 

They destroy any cultural references to the Ukrainian people. They burn books written in the Ukrainian language. They erase any reference to Ukraine, its culture, and its people in the history taught in the occupied areas. 

They keep food from being exported. They annex territory in sham referendums, even when it's likely they might have passed with a majority vote in a legitimate one. They threaten the use of nuclear weapons indiscriminately. They purposefully risk nuclear meltdown at the nuclear power plant under their control, up to and including using it as a hostage for staging military equipment. 

They imprison their own citizens to long terms simply for not agreeing with the war. They arrest American citizens and then give them no access to the outside world. I can't remember the exact quote, but someone above in the thread stated what they can't control, fuck, or steal, they simply destroy.

I don't think destroying a building housing military personnel changes the equation much at all. 

#64908
1 hour ago, The Dog said:
This was a big one. And likely includes both high ranking officer and enlisted KIAs. https://t.co/tLZB2XBFlg

 

Anyone else notice the kicks in the first video?

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#64909
52 minutes ago, KYHorn said:
Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to…

Hungary is preparing a provocative press conference with Ukrainian prisoners of war, who were handed over to Hungary by the Russian Orthodox Church.

It is reported that the prisoners should tell about forced mobilization, bad conditions at the front, and express gratitude to Hungary and the Russian Orthodox Church.

This press conference was a mandatory condition for the removal of prisoners from the Russian Federation.

Isn't forced "parading" of prisoners of war a crime?  Or is Hungarian dickhead here off the hook because it's "voluntary"?

Fuck this guy nevertheless.

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typo

#64911
ruzzians heroically destroyed a wooden tank 🎯👌👍
⚡️Canada supports Ukraine's accession to NATO, "as soon as the conditions allow", according to the president's website.During the meeting in Kyiv, the President of Ukraine and the Prime Minister of Canada adopted a declaration in which Ottawa supported the acquisition of…

 

#64912
And all of these combined arms operations are being conducted without Ukraine having achieved air superiority, something no Western-style military, including the United States, has any experience in.

 

#64914
⚡️"The impact of the dam blown up by the russians can be traced much further in the Kherson region. Today, near Nikopol, a whole section with a railway track was damaged due to landslide," –– Ukrzaliznytsia reports. 👉Follow@flash_news
⚡️The government allocated 2.4 billion hryvnias [$68 million -ed.] for the restoration of water supply in the Kherson region, –– Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk."Access to drinking water is very important. This is the first task facing the government. And the…

 

#64915
⚡️Canada announced a new $400 million military aid package to UkraineThis was officially announced by the Canadian side during the visit of the country's prime minister to Kyiv.Mega money collection for kamikaze drones!https://t.co/pDD6gzFthmDetails of "Magyar’s Birds"…
⚡️Swedish Essity (owner of Zewa, Libresse and Libero) has announced its exit from the russian market, the company announced.The concern completely stops its activities in russia and starts selling its business assets in the country. According to Essity, the share of business in…

 

#64916
⚡️According to the Ukrainian soldiers who participated in the attack, Bradleys and Leopards showed excellent survivability and saved most of the soldiers from death, so they fulfilled their function 100%. The main thing is the lives saved. Believe in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Ukrainian forces are starting to release small glimpses of how they storm Russian positions, without disclosing much.Source: https://t.co/SUFA54sR7E#Ukraine #Counteroffensive #Zaporizhzhia #Kherson— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

#64917
15 minutes ago, MillerEP said:
And all of these combined arms operations are being conducted without Ukraine having achieved air superiority, something no Western-style military, including the United States, has any experience in.

 

 

There had to be a better way of making his point. The US isn't going to get that experience, either, because we wouldn't do such a thing. It's not a bug. It's a feature. And I don't know about the whole "no other Western-style military" thing. Is Israel not a western style military? How is he so sure no other western style military is capable of it?

I'm all for being rah rah Ukraine, but there are plenty of ways to do that without hyperbole. Not impressed. 

This is about desperation on one level. Ukraine needs to do something to prove this isn't a static war of attrition, and they can't wait for Western allies to provide enough air power to neutralize the Russian advantage in the theater of operation. They've admitted as much. So they're going in anyway. God speed.

#64920
13 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

What am I missing here?

Probably Kinburn Peninsula - orc garrison was cut off by the flooding.

 

#64921
PGM, possibly Excalibur munition, of the Ukrainian 72nd Brigade hit this Russian BM-21, triggering the missiles to fire, uncontrollably, around.Source: https://t.co/VynP65dtDT#Ukraine— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

It’s actually HIMARS

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#64922
1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

There had to be a better way of making his point. The US isn't going to get that experience, either, because we wouldn't do such a thing. It's not a bug. It's a feature. And I don't know about the whole "no other Western-style military" thing. Is Israel not a western style military? How is he so sure no other western style military is capable of it?

I don’t know if Israel could.  They have less than a quarter of Ukraine’s population and a much smaller active-duty military.  Granted, they could swell their ranks with  their reserves, but their military has, over time, changed to match up their immediate threats (and countries are not going to invade them with the nuclear thing hanging over their heads).  

1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

This is about desperation on one level. Ukraine needs to do something to prove this isn't a static war of attrition, and they can't wait for Western allies to provide enough air power to neutralize the Russian advantage in the theater of operation. They've admitted as much. So they're going in anyway. God speed.

Yep.   They have a lot of MANPADS and other more tactical AD so hopefully that’ll be enough.  

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#64923
1 hour ago, The Dog said:
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i don't get it

black sea?

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#64925
Since both sides are already reporting it, I will release the information I collected, too. There is anyway a delay of this information and therefore does not compromise OPSEC.Almost the entire forward defense line of the Russian army near Velyka Novosilka - around 20 km long -…— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

Since both sides are already reporting it, I will release the information I collected, too. There is anyway a delay of this information and therefore does not compromise OPSEC.

Almost the entire forward defense line of the Russian army near Velyka Novosilka - around 20 km long - has been wiped out. Ukrainian forces liberated Neskuchne and Novodonets'ke.

Based on Russian drone footage we know that Ukrainian forces are already operating further south, hammering Russian forces in Storozheve and the little village of Blahodatne, nearby.

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#64926

Their OPSEC has been pretty solid, but there's a pretty clear picture that they are driving through the Russian defensive lines, 1km and 2km and 4km here and there.

We already know the Russians were finished in terms of offensive/maneuverability capabilities at Bakhmut, but I'm getting a little excited/suspicious that the Ukrainians are close to truly breaking the Russians in a lot of areas - once you get past their main defensive lines, the Russians don't have the soldiers to physically project a defense-in-depth. Otherwise, if they had the numbers, they would have taken Bakhmut in the first few months, instead of taking the better part of a year, as well as not lost Kherson and Kharkiv.

For all of those defensive positions we saw in Crimea, there's a hundreds of KMs where the defenses are scant, and probably coming down to some hastily dug, shallow, narrow (narrow enough for tracked vehicles to cross) earthworks and Russian soldiers who were not soldiers until recently.

And if Russia is truly trying to prepare another mass mobilization, it's too fucking late.  They ain't getting anything back that they lose from here on out.

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#64927

Meanwhile, back further to the western end of the front.

This is it!! 🇺🇦 has smashed a 12-15km wide, up to 3km deep into 🇷🇺 defense lines on the #Zaporizhzhia front. Can they hold? Can the Russians respond? These are *THE* questions that will shape history for the remainder of my life. #ukrainecounteroffensive
Despite the enemy's escort, Ukrainian units are gradually advancing.A video from one of the #Ukrainian airborne brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.#ukrainecounteroffensive #Ukraine #UkraineWarNews #RussiaUkraineWar

 

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#64928
Rybar reporting major Ukrainian advances in the Velyka Novosilka area, with Ukrainian forces capturing Neskuchne and Blahodatne "almost without a fight", and moving on Urozhaine and Novodonets'ke.

If Crybar is saying this then the situation is very bad for Ivan.

 

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#64929

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all this gear is in Ukrainian held territory and is being repaired. The Leopard is already back in service killing Orcs.

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#64930
55 minutes ago, The Dog said:
Rybar reporting major Ukrainian advances in the Velyka Novosilka area, with Ukrainian forces capturing Neskuchne and Blahodatne "almost without a fight", and moving on Urozhaine and Novodonets'ke.

If Crybar is saying this then the situation is very bad for Ivan.

 

Matches the video posted of Ukrainian mechanized forces cruising around outside of Blahodatne https://t.co/ZHDqlQAG8r

 

#64931
Ukrainian forces pummeled a Russian artillery convoy moving south from Zapovitne, Zaporizhia Oblast with drone spotted fire, destroying multiple vehicles.
#64932
4 hours ago, The Dog said:
PGM, possibly Excalibur munition, of the Ukrainian 72nd Brigade hit this Russian BM-21, triggering the missiles to fire, uncontrollably, around.Source: https://t.co/VynP65dtDT#Ukraine— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

It’s actually HIMARS

That looked like one of those giant shotgun shell bombs with the 186,000 tungsten BBs.

CHIEF

#64933
2 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

That looked like one of those giant shotgun shell bombs with the 186,000 tungsten BBs.

CHIEF

That’s exactly what they think it was.

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#64934

Almost too good to be true, but then again, it's Russia 

 

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#64935
9 minutes ago, KYHorn said:

Almost too good to be true, hit them again, it's Russia 

 

even though they dont believe in it..

 

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#64936

 

Unconfirmed.Some interesting information was posted in the form of audio files on telegram.This is from a translated audio message. https://t.co/L4Haatx6U0
Russian lieutenant colonel Butenko was de-nazified in Ukraine.
 

 

Pro-Russian telegram accounts are reporting Ukrainian "movement" on the Kharkiv front. Waiting for further reports to collaborate. https://t.co/GaJLYvCxA9https://t.co/CdpHP2SE3a

 

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#64937

Russian convoy was targeted by Ukrainian artillery, destroying several vehicles. Looks like ammunition explosion.The convoy was near Zapovitne, Zaporizhzhia Oblast.#Ukraine #Zaporizhzhiapic.twitter.com/ABWJ1NFg5Z— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)


As part of a new aid package, Canada will transfer the confiscated Russian An-124 Ruslan aircraft to Ukraine.
#64938

A captured damaged Russian BMP-2 with a rare set of 675-SB3KDZ armor, at one of the recaptured Russian positions📹https://t.co/SNloYIvVWO


⚡Investigation: Belarus sent over 130,000 tons of munitions to Russia in first year of full-scale war.According to a Belarusian investigative project, Minsk provided Moscow with 131,582 tons of ammunition during the first year of the full-scale war. https://t.co/qeFZh4vzOX
#64939
12 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

A captured damaged Russian BMP-2 with a rare set of 675-SB3KDZ armor, at one of the recaptured Russian positions📹https://t.co/SNloYIvVWO

 

 

⚡Investigation: Belarus sent over 130,000 tons of munitions to Russia in first year of full-scale war.According to a Belarusian investigative project, Minsk provided Moscow with 131,582 tons of ammunition during the first year of the full-scale war. https://t.co/qeFZh4vzOX

 

 

Hey, how's ol' Alex doing anyhow?  Haven't heard much from him lately....

 

#64940
One of the critical axis of advances, toward Novodonetsk, appears to see some success. This is one of four I’m watching closely (no, I won’t disclose the other 3) https://t.co/vNpxypS4O5

it always warms my heart when the good guys are being cagey about what's going on... opsec is gooooooood

#64941
Me, reading about Russians saying their defenses are being nuked by war piñatas:

 

#64942

I'm assuming this is air defense doing

What is happening in Melitopol?

From hours ago

One more. Russian channels are worried about troop movement in Kharkiv region near Kupyansk. The night is dark and full of terror.👋

Couple of Russians surrendering, one or more dead Russians laying around.

Caught

 

#64944
3 hours ago, bolverk said:

Meanwhile, back further to the western end of the front.

This is it!! 🇺🇦 has smashed a 12-15km wide, up to 3km deep into 🇷🇺 defense lines on the #Zaporizhzhia front. Can they hold? Can the Russians respond? These are *THE* questions that will shape history for the remainder of my life. #ukrainecounteroffensive
Despite the enemy's escort, Ukrainian units are gradually advancing.A video from one of the #Ukrainian airborne brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.#ukrainecounteroffensive #Ukraine #UkraineWarNews #RussiaUkraineWar

 

The last minute of that long video for those that didn’t watch:

A Russian military leader says something to the effect of “I wouldn’t get too excited about any defenses we have managed to put up. This isn’t the main attack, they have 600 tanks waiting just behind the front.”

Please, please, please be an absolute slaughter.

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#64945

I'll pause Joh Wick 4 long enough to post my personal opinion on the initial Ukraine strikes.

1. Probing.. duh

2. Training: These incredibly intelligent people learn from thier mistakes. Every disabled Bradley equals 20 more coming through.

3. Every disabled armored vehicle  will be a Training session for the next guy. 

We are witnessing greatness.

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#64946
16 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

The last minute of that long video for those that didn’t watch:

A Russian military leader says something to the effect of “I wouldn’t get too excited about any defenses we have managed to put up. This isn’t the main attack, they have 600 tanks waiting just behind the front.”

Please, please, please be an absolute slaughter.

This looks wide enough to get a major mechanized force thru.  If they can get thru behind them, man o man would that be the best news.  Even if right now they can only get the rest of Kherson and East Zaporizhzhia this is a huge success.  Fingers crossed.  

#64947
4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

This looks wide enough to get a major mechanized force thru.  If they can get thru behind them, man o man would that be the best news.  Even if right now they can only get the rest of Kherson and East Zaporizhzhia this is a huge success.  Fingers crossed.  

Hey, UT had an amazing ninth inning tonight, well that has nothing to do with this, but anyways, yeah, if the Ukrainians are pulling off such big moves...and every 10 or 20 km they gain moves the HIMARS and other artillery that much deeper.

#64948
7 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Hey, UT had an amazing ninth inning tonight, well that has nothing to do with this, but anyways, yeah, if the Ukrainians are pulling off such big moves...and every 10 or 20 km they gain moves the HIMARS and other artillery that much deeper.

I mean, seriously, fuck the trees. I don't even care if it's off-topic, that was absolutelyfuckinglegendary.

"Rebuilding year," bitches.

#64949
Leopard 2A4 in Ukrainian service.

 

Czech-supplied RM-70 MRL in service with the Ukrainian 61st Mechanized Brigade

 

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#64950

No impact here, but an interesting thing for the future - US Army just unveiled the M10 Booker, which is not a light tank, but sure looks like it, and I'm curious if Ukraine had an impact on it.

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The Mobile Protected Firepower (MPF) is a U.S. Army program to procure a combat vehicle that is capable of providing mobile protected direct offensive fire capability.[1] This vehicle is considered a light tank by some sources,[2] but not according to Army officals.[3] The program is part of the Next Generation Combat Vehicle program.[4] A previous light tank development for the Army, the M8 Armored Gun System, was canceled in 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Protected_Firepower

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2023/06/10/us-armys-new-combat-vehicle-named-for-soldiers-killed-in-iraq-wwii/

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Stevon, a tank commander serving under Task Force 1-64 company commander Capt. Andrew Hilmes, was killed by enemy machine gun fire during the first thunder run up Highway 8 leading to the Baghdad International airport.

When both of the tank’s machine guns failed, Stevon laid down on top of the tank’s turret and fired at enemy forces with his own weapon, destroying an enemy troop carrier as it attempted to pass the tank. He continued to fire his weapon along an 8-kilometer route until he was mortally wounded.

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He got on top of his tank and began engaging enemy armored vehicles with an AT-4 until he suffered mortal wounds.He was initially awarded the Silver Star, which has since been upgraded to the Distinguished Service Cross.Rock of the Marne! 2|2

 

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