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African leaders descended into bomb shelter during #Russian attack on #Kyiv, reports Reuters.South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, Zambian President Hakainde Hichilema, Senegalese President Macky Sall, Comoros President Azali Assoumani, Egyptian Prime Minister Mostafa…

African leaders descended into bomb shelter during #Russian attack on #Kyiv, reports Reuters.

South African President Cyril Ramaphosa, Zambian President Hakainde Hichilema, Senegalese President Macky Sall, Comoros President Azali Assoumani, Egyptian Prime Minister Mostafa Madbouly and Ugandan Foreign Minister Jeje Odongo are visiting Kyiv today.

Before the attack, the African delegation visited #Bucha.

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#65453
28 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

At this point would anyone be surprised if Russia launched cruise missiles at themselves?

I'm not kidding here, but I legit thought about what would happen if they set of a tactical nuke in Belgorod.  I honestly don't know, because that's so stupid, the rest of the world would just be baffled.  That having been said, they are so ridiculous I don't think we can rule it out as at least a possibility.  

#65454
7 hours ago, Slacks said:

I know I'm going to get the hatred, but if that was enough to stop an aggressor, wouldn't every war end with 'children' marked everywhere in the territory?

I mean, it would be like Frank's. 

Not saying that's what it was, but how does that work in war? 

The question you should be asking yourself is why did Russia target the building. There was no military objective associated with the building. The answer is because it had children in it and Russia wanted to cause human suffering. 

#65455
After Chechen troops arrived in the Bilhorod region, they refused to take up positions on the border areas. They only plan to control the situation and not fight with any insurgent forces.Another TikTok confirmation.
Furthermore, and also very important, Sweden announced that it will start training Ukrainian pilots on the JAS 39 Gripen fighter jet. https://t.co/AlwS3NdMlR

 

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The question you should be asking yourself is why did Russia target the building. There was no military objective associated with the building. The answer is because it had children in it and Russia wanted to cause human suffering. 

Same answer for why they kept bombing maternity wards and other hospitals. They're fully on board for genocide.

#65456

Are we going to have makeshift air squadrons with gripens, vipers, (super?) hornets, and fulcrums all together?

eta: wasn’t France going to give them some mirages also?

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#65458
Video of what a mine clearance operation looks like in real combat conditions. As said, M58 MICLIC is used. Zaporizhzhia front. https://t.co/5bvAkB5nbu

 

#65459
10 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

Flown by Poles, Canadians, Brits, Ukrainians, Germans, Swedes and Americans?

At least the maintenance manuals for the gripens will be pictorial so anyone can do it. 

#65460
18 hours ago, Rimbo said:

 

That there is what you call a two-fer.  They lost a Senior Lieutenant and a radar installation in one fell swoop

#65461
9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

At least the maintenance manuals for the gripens will be pictorial so anyone can do it. 

Fly by IKEA instead of fly by wire?

#65462
27 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Are we going to have makeshift air squadrons with gripens, vipers, (super?) hornets, and fulcrums all together?

Beggars can't be choosers. Yes. They'll take less than ideal British and French fighter jets, too, so no need to limit it to just those. 

The problem is, the Swedes have already said they can't really afford to give up any of their Gripens. They could always change their mind. The Gripen would be the most effective plane according to experts I trust, for Ukraine in their current situation. They were basically developed from the ground up to fight Russia under the exact kind of circumstances Ukraine now faces. VERY mobile small footprint maintenance platform. Less than ideal runway situations (can land/take off from roads, short runways with debris). The basic idea is to keep a defensive air force in the air even while Russia is bombing the ever living crap out of usable runways. 

Basically it's Gripens, then Hornets, then Vipers in terms of what's best for Ukraine. But the F-16s are the most numerous, and the most likely to be exported in numbers. Also, that's probably the mid term future for Ukraine after they win this war until they've earned the trust to operate 5th generation fighters, which is a ways off.

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#65463
I know I'm going to get the hatred, but if that was enough to stop an aggressor, wouldn't every war end with 'children' marked everywhere in the territory?
I mean, it would be like Frank's. 
Not saying that's what it was, but how does that work in war? 

I’ll start with this - I hope you don’t have a newsletter.

What sets Russia apart in this scenario is they don’t give a shit - bomb and destroy everything.

If the US was involved and saw this, they would already have intel proving the building served or did not serve military applications and would react accordingly.

Russia has zero strategy at this point - from the top down it’s a hot mess. Charlie strong and Steve Patterson could add some leadership to that group.
#65464
47 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Video of what a mine clearance operation looks like in real combat conditions. As said, M58 MICLIC is used. Zaporizhzhia front. https://t.co/5bvAkB5nbu

 

My little brother mailed the metal crate that one of these came in back from Afghanistan to make a grill out of or something like that. The whole thing was pretty much just covered in postage stamps.

#65465
1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

I'm not kidding here, but I legit thought about what would happen if they set of a tactical nuke in Belgorod.  I honestly don't know, because that's so stupid, the rest of the world would just be baffled.  That having been said, they are so ridiculous I don't think we can rule it out as at least a possibility.  

You have to throw hyperbole right out the window with these imbeciles. 

Only Mexican soccer fans and MAGAts approach this level of stupidity.

#65467
17 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

Charlie strong and Steve Patterson could add some leadership to that group.

Is the war being fought in Kansas?  Because maybe not.

Edited by Macanudo

#65468
45 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Beggars can't be choosers. Yes. They'll take less than ideal British and French fighter jets, too, so no need to limit it to just those. 

The problem is, the Swedes have already said they can't really afford to give up any of their Gripens. They could always change their mind. The Gripen would be the most effective plane according to experts I trust, for Ukraine in their current situation. They were basically developed from the ground up to fight Russia under the exact kind of circumstances Ukraine now faces. VERY mobile small footprint maintenance platform. Less than ideal runway situations (can land/take off from roads, short runways with debris). The basic idea is to keep a defensive air force in the air even while Russia is bombing the ever living crap out of usable runways. 

Basically it's Gripens, then Hornets, then Vipers in terms of what's best for Ukraine. But the F-16s are the most numerous, and the most likely to be exported in numbers. Also, that's probably the mid term future for Ukraine after they win this war until they've earned the trust to operate 5th generation fighters, which is a ways off.

Some other nations have allowed America to patrol their skies with kicass American F35 Shitbirds.  Any chance Sweden could be convinced of the same?

#65469
pic.twitter.com/OMXpNoDIzB

Apparently it can carry 6 of the PG-7 bombs at a time.

pic.twitter.com/F3oS7kEgy7

 

#65470
50 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Beggars can't be choosers. Yes. They'll take less than ideal British and French fighter jets, too, so no need to limit it to just those. 

The problem is, the Swedes have already said they can't really afford to give up any of their Gripens. They could always change their mind. The Gripen would be the most effective plane according to experts I trust, for Ukraine in their current situation. They were basically developed from the ground up to fight Russia under the exact kind of circumstances Ukraine now faces. VERY mobile small footprint maintenance platform. Less than ideal runway situations (can land/take off from roads, short runways with debris). The basic idea is to keep a defensive air force in the air even while Russia is bombing the ever living crap out of usable runways. 

Basically it's Gripens, then Hornets, then Vipers in terms of what's best for Ukraine. But the F-16s are the most numerous, and the most likely to be exported in numbers. Also, that's probably the mid term future for Ukraine after they win this war until they've earned the trust to operate 5th generation fighters, which is a ways off.

To clarify regarding the "training", a better translation from Swedish would probably be "orientation education"

 

#65471
Spain will send four Leopard 2A4 and 20 armored vehicles to Ukraine, this month, according to Spanish Defense Minister Margarita Robles.Source picture: Javi Martinez#Spain #Ukraine— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

#65472
Just now, Parliament said:

Some other nations have allowed America to patrol their skies with kicass American F35 Shitbirds.  Any chance Sweden could be convinced of the same?

I don't know. They're still trying to get into NATO (thanks Erdogan!). 

I mean, it's not an empty gesture they're willing to train Ukraine on them. I have no idea what's going to happen with Ukraine and western fighter jets in the future. I just feel confident they're going to eventually get some kind of package. WHEN that's going to happen is another question. What that will entail is another one. Which countries will be involved yet another one.

I do wonder if Congress passed another $100 billion tranche for Ukraine that we wouldn't already be seeing F-16s over there, but that ain't happening. They're going to try to make the current authorizations work for as long as possible. F-16s would put a major dent in that plan. 

This isn't really part of the conversation we're having, but I will say that in my opinion, we're doing a terrible job of justifying our involvement in Ukraine to the domestic audience. I've probably talked to about 30 people in the last few days relaying the dam explosion, Russian efforts to keep people in the path of floodwaters from evacuating, and then opening fire on evacuation centers. It's the most powerful reaction I've ever been able to generate in others in a short amount of time. We're simply not doing a good job of relaying to the average American how bestial Russia is at its core, and why they need to be stopped now. I'm sure a big part of that is to not escalate the confrontation between Russia and the US, but the downside of that is the American people see any spending on Ukraine as money that could be spent in the US, and it's not going over well. In my opinion. 

#65473
15 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Apparently it can carry 6 of the PG-7 bombs at a time.

Torbush! 

That's crazy to me. The use of drones in this war has felt to me like the introduction of machine guns to the battlefield. 

#65474
"Soldier's Heart."2 decades ago, I met a unique person at West Point. An Ivy League English Literature Professor teaching Plebes (Freshmen), Elizabeth Samet was writing a book about how cadets were facing the wars that would define their generation. 1/11
But she would also learn so much from her students...and graduates, as they wrote to her after experiencing what she had only read about in the classics.The book, "Soldier's Heart," is one of my favorites, and it holds a special place on my bookshelf as she signed it for me. 3/
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Professor Samet titled her book "Soldier's Heart" because that was one term used by battlefield physicians since the Civil War.It was used to describe soldiers w/ dizziness, shortness of breath, morose behavior, rapid heart rate & a general malaise difficult to identify. 5/

 

In combat, senses are bombarded by unpleasant sights, smells of death, cacophony of sounds, extreme cold & heat.The loss of comrades & sights of wounded friends.Fatigue is exponentially compounded by lack of sleep, heightened tensions, constant fear, poor diet. 7/

 

When I served at our Army's National Training Center in California, we did several studies on the effect of sleep deprivation on leadership decision-making.The results were sobering..Let's just say decisions after even 48-72 hours w/out adequate sleep were "affected." 9/

 

One more thing...Studies in combat show that units are more resilient & have the ability to better counter PTS, battle fatigue, or soldier's heart if they believe in what they're doing & have faith in their leaders.In this fight, only one side has that. 11/11

 

some sunshine pumping from the general

Our refusal to provide ATACMS to Ukraine in effect gives Russia safe haven for these attacks against Ukrainian civilians. I don’t know how the Administration can justify this. At least enable Ukraine to hit the Russian Navy and Air Force in Crimea. https://t.co/dtyQ27O9kq

 

#65475
"The Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed more than four companies of Russians and 53 units of equipment in the Tavriya direction"

this is 15km northwest of Tokmak. 

#65476
2 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Torbush! 

That's crazy to me. The use of drones in this war has felt to me like the introduction of machine guns to the battlefield. 

My son thinks it is more like the beginning of terminators, basically an impassive war without having to feel the pain of battle.

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#65477
1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Fly by IKEA instead of fly by wire?

I knew that my joke wasn’t an original thought, and that the internet would not let me down. 
 

 

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#65479
9 hours ago, Slacks said:

I know I'm going to get the hatred, but if that was enough to stop an aggressor, wouldn't every war end with 'children' marked everywhere in the territory?

I mean, it would be like Frank's. 

Not saying that's what it was, but how does that work in war? 

Something to remember is that this was a stage theater (like Bass Concert Hall), which is marked as a cultural center. They were using it as a bomb shelter because it holds a lot of people, and had a basement. All cultural centers are off-limits in war by the Geneva Convention. So most NORMAL countries who wage war would not use that for military purposes, so I don't think that tactic would work at say a known military compound. 

#65480
17 minutes ago, Bevo said:

My son thinks it is more like the beginning of terminators, basically an impassive war without having to feel the pain of battle.

I think the people who get killed by them are feeling the pain.

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#65482
7 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

The useless Allen wrench is the chefs kiss.

Fuckers strip quicker than a Russian widow. 

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#65483
THE DRAFT US NATIONAL DEFENSE BILL INCLUDES $80.0 MILLION FOR ATACMS FOR UKRAINE

 

#65485
1 hour ago, SL Xpress said:

This isn't really part of the conversation we're having, but I will say that in my opinion, we're doing a terrible job of justifying our involvement in Ukraine to the domestic audience. 

I 100% agree.

#65487
1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

I follow a few people who teach Ukrainian on Twitter. Today the word was Asshole. Russian's are Mudaks   

She's into Mudaks, Dino.  What can I tell you?  

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#65488
Presentation of a new russian car at Sankt Petersburg economic forum.Impressive! #RussiaIsCollapsing #StandWithUkraine
In a series of coordinated attacks, Ukrainian forces have breached several Russian defensive positions and captured key settlements in the northern flank of Bakhmut, paving the way for further advances.https://t.co/sqwZyESvTp

 

Edited by KYHorn

#65489
Khodakovksy said last week that Russian forces captured a Canadian-made system used to locate the position of UAV operators. He expresses concern because of the system's capabilities.https://t.co/sxm3uQO17H
Reuters: Ramaphosa said that international investigations on alleged abuses in the Ukrainian city of Bucha should be allowed to go on, and that it was important to listen to what both Russia and Ukraine had to say.

 

This is a major pro Kremlin account and this is absolutely hilarious. They got this line ready only for Ramaphosa to then contradict them.

 

Edited by KYHorn

#65490
⚡️The Sejm of #Poland approved a resolution supporting #Ukraine's membership in #NATO https://t.co/FMC4hGcMtQ

 

#65491
3 hours ago, Bevo said:

My son thinks it is more like the beginning of terminators, basically an impassive war without having to feel the pain of battle.

The vatniks in the trenches would disagree.

#65492
Russian be like: respect your commander and give him a toilet bowl (stolen from a Ukrainian private house).
#65493
Belgium will hand over the 15th package of military aid to Ukraine, which will include M113 armored personnel carriers, the Ministry of Defense of Belgium reports
Around 21.00 in the Donetsk direction, the Ukrainian Air Force destroyed an enemy Ka-52 attack helicopter

 

#65496
1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Russian be like: respect your commander and give him a toilet bowl (stolen from a Ukrainian private house).

Ukraine should drop them from drones on their heads. 

#65497
Canada will build a combat capable brigade of 15 Leopard 2A4M tanks including personnel and equipment The Canadian Defence Ministry predicts that the tank contingent will be fully deployed by the fall

Fuck the UAE

Mohammed bin Zayed called Vladimir Putin a friendPutin responded by praising the UAE's economic modelThe MBZ-Putin relationship which crystallized over common views of the Arab Spring and political Islam remains firmly intact

 

#65498
1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Russian be like: respect your commander and give him a toilet bowl (stolen from a Ukrainian private house).

Now that would have been a perfect occasion to drop a grenade from a drone 😀

Dammit, missed it by that much

Edited by Dilligas
Inka beat me to it

#65499
4 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Canada will build a combat capable brigade of 15 Leopard 2A4M tanks including personnel and equipment The Canadian Defence Ministry predicts that the tank contingent will be fully deployed by the fall

Fuck the UAE

Mohammed bin Zayed called Vladimir Putin a friendPutin responded by praising the UAE's economic modelThe MBZ-Putin relationship which crystallized over common views of the Arab Spring and political Islam remains firmly intact

 

Meanwhile the USAF flied overflights for his country who is scared of Iran. 

 

#65500
I think that the whole world is proud of him," Moshe Reuven Azman said in a comment to an UNIAN correspondent. The Chief Rabbi of Ukraine also said that there are no neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

 

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