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#66001
3 minutes ago, Saint Austin said:

I can't possibly imagine Russia leaving without a fight. Crimea seems immensely more important to them than the comparatively backwoods Donbas.

It's also in a precarious spot with limited fresh water, the ability to resupply under threat, and only one or two egress points also increasingly under threat. 

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#66002

Video of the counter offensive. 

"Ukrainian military stormed positions near Krasnohorivka in Donetsk region for the first time in the ATO" According to a number of military sources, the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to take positions that had been under the control of the "DPR" for 9 years.

 

 

#66003
1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Tough to live in a place without fresh water.

I wonder what else they might have in store in terms of scorched earth tactics on their way out?

I see lots and lots and lots of upper-deckers.

#66004

The catfighting is getting pretty ugly lol

Girkin: Prigozhin is lying, attempting to recruit all "angry patriots" to his side (that is, away from Girkin). Russian oligarchs desire to surrender, not conquer Ukraine.https://t.co/wicgsRPQHA

 

#66005
⚡The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of #Estonia reports that the 11th package of sanctions against #Russia came into force.
Ukraine’s counteroffensive is barely two weeks old but some are already branding it a failure. In reality, the offensive is just getting started. It took 3 months to liberate Kherson - this campaign is an order of magnitude largerhttps://t.co/CFnAwVx8a0

 

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#66006

I get that this is going slower than everyone had hoped, but I'm honestly feeling good with what they are doing and setting things up for.  We also know that there are several brigades waiting in the wings for the right timing.  Patience is a virtue, one I generally don't have, so I get it, but I think they are positioning themselves well by exhausting Russian supply and manpower.  

#66007
⚡️The Turkish company Baykar received license permits for the production of Bayraktar TB2 and Akinci strike drones in Ukraine.This was reported by the head of the company Haluk Bayraktar. The plant is planned to open in 2025.👉 Follow @Flash_news_ua
⚡️The German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall plans to deliver 20 more Marder infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine this summer,

 

#66008
Wagner VS Russian Special ForcesHERE WE GO 👀👀👀

 

#66010
6 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

How Russian would it be to upper deck a toilet and then steal said toilet?

That's probably a more developed and reasoned question that what will actually wind up happening.  It will be far dumber.  

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#66011
To Putin and his generals - "If you up the ante, this way (use of a tactical nuclear weapons or cause a nuclear disaster), all hell will break loose on you, 10 x greater than it is today," @LindseyGrahamSC

tldr, you blow up zaporizhzhia, you trigger article 5

#66013
34 minutes ago, The Dog said:
Wagner VS Russian Special ForcesHERE WE GO 👀👀👀

 

Man, I don't know whether it's a bad translation by Google or if the Russians really do talk in circles where you have to almost divine their meaning. But if the OP in that tweet is correct, then I'm all for it.

#66014
Earlier today, Ukraine struck Henichesk in southern Kherson Oblast (again). Russian tg channels reported that the "winery had been hit". Sat images of an abandoned winery near the train station showed military fortifications. It's possible that Ukraine have struck a logistics hub

 

#66015
4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Man, I don't know whether it's a bad translation by Google or if the Russians really do talk in circles where you have to almost divine their meaning. But if the OP in that tweet is correct, then I'm all for it.

Glad I’m not alone there. It’s like they’ve been programmed to talk in code, which I assume they have. 

Now a Russian mail order bride is a lot less appealing to me. I have enough “lady just say what you mean” issues with my American wife. Can’t even imagine what that’s like with a Russian bride.

#66016
27 minutes ago, Rimbo said:
To Putin and his generals - "If you up the ante, this way (use of a tactical nuclear weapons or cause a nuclear disaster), all hell will break loose on you, 10 x greater than it is today," @LindseyGrahamSC

tldr, you blow up zaporizhzhia, you trigger article 5

Point of order, this is only a resolution they’re proposing. It would still need to go to a vote. But even then, it’s not binding. It’s just meant to send a message that the US Senate believes it triggers Art 5

#66017
As expected the Russians put up a pontoon bridge within 24 hours from the Chonhar bridge being hit. I expect the Russians to prepare multiple places for pontoon crossings. https://t.co/wejz6iTikw
Russian sources claim that Ukrainian forces are only 1.5km from Robotyne and have advanced.“Our aviation practically did not work.” Is Russia starting to feel the pain of the downed Ka-52 helicopters?

 

#66018
2 hours ago, Saint Austin said:

I can't possibly imagine Russia leaving without a fight. Crimea seems immensely more important to them than the comparatively backwoods Donbas.

I can't either, but then they will be running low on water and will not be able to evacuate if more of the transportation/bridges are hit, and they may prefer to pull their forces out ala Dunkirk rather than lose them because they are surrounded and can't be resupplied/reinforced and start running out of water/gas/etc.

But I can't imagine that though - Putin leaving Crimea willingly.  I mean, on paper, it's a rational thing to do - pull your people out before you lose them and their vehicles, but Putin is not rational.

1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

I get that this is going slower than everyone had hoped, but I'm honestly feeling good with what they are doing and setting things up for.  We also know that there are several brigades waiting in the wings for the right timing.  Patience is a virtue, one I generally don't have, so I get it, but I think they are positioning themselves well by exhausting Russian supply and manpower.  

I keep reminding people that the first Gulf War's air campaign lasted over a month before we started moving troops in, and we had nearly 2,000 aircraft, and sorties were being run 24/7.

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#66019
BREAKING ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡Prigozhin said that the Russian Armed Forces launched a missile attack on the Wagner PMC camps."A huge number of our comrades died, we will decide how to respond to this atrocity" - Prigozhin

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#66020
Just now, The Dog said:
BREAKING ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡Prigozhin said that the Russian Armed Forces launched a missile attack on the Wagner PMC camps."A huge number of our comrades died, we will decide how to respond to this atrocity" - Prigozhin

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#66022
5 minutes ago, The Dog said:
BREAKING ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡Prigozhin said that the Russian Armed Forces launched a missile attack on the Wagner PMC camps."A huge number of our comrades died, we will decide how to respond to this atrocity" - Prigozhin

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#66024
32 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Point of order, this is only a resolution they’re proposing. It would still need to go to a vote. But even then, it’s not binding. It’s just meant to send a message that the US Senate believes it triggers Art 5

In these situations clear communication is key

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#66025

Wish I had more insight for y’all on Prigozhin and what he and Wagner PMC are up to. I felt I had a good grasp on them and what they were in relation to the Russian state before the full invasion. But the war and their use and metamorphosis in Ukraine has clearly changed things.

None of the Russia hands I know or follow are comfortable making concrete pronouncements, either. So….enjoy the fireworks and dead orcs.

 

❗️Prigozhin "declares war on Russian Ministry of Defence".

 

#66026
Full message of Prigozhi "declaring war on the Russian Ministry of Defence:"PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped.They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we…

Full message of Prigozhi "declaring war on the Russian Ministry of Defence: "PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped. They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we will bring it back. Those, who destroyed today our guys, who destroyed tens, tens of thousands of lives of Russian soldiers will be punished. I’m asking: no one resist. Everyone who will try to resist, we will consider them a danger and destroy them immediately, including any checkpoints on our way. And any aviation that we see above our heads. I’m asking everyone to remain calm, do not succumb to provocations, and remain in their houses. Ideally, those along our way, do not go outside. After we finished what we started, we will return to the frontline to protect our motherland. Presidential authority, Government, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Rosgvardia, and other departments will continue operating as before. We will deal with those who destroy Russian soldiers. And we will return to the frontline. Justice in the Army will be restored. And after this, justice for the whole of Russia."

Russia is on the verge of a military coup" - GirkinWTF IS GOING ON 😯😯😯😯😯 https://t.co/UswLKdl0SG

 

#66028
4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Wish I had more insight for y’all on Prigozhin and what he and Wagner PMC are up to. I felt I had a good grasp on them and what they were in relation to the Russian state before the full invasion. But the war and their use and metamorphosis in Ukraine has clearly changed things.

None of the Russia hands I know or follow are comfortable making concrete pronouncements, either. So….enjoy the fireworks and dead orcs.

 

❗️Prigozhin "declares war on Russian Ministry of Defence".

 

don't worry; ppob is here to analyze for us

If I might add to this, as a total non expert on Russian politics, I can’t see how Prigozhin could make these extreme criticisms of the armed forces and even Putin without the backing of very powerful forces. He’s never seemed stupid or suicidal. There is more going on here. https://t.co/ISciItG9a7
And now he's accusing the army of attacking Wagner bases with missiles. He's obviously not afraid to make these claims against the army loud and in public. This has to be part of a deliberate campaign, but exactly who is working with him is the key thing. https://t.co/jznOSEW6jv

 

THis seems part of a well thought out campaign to have a military force in Russia for a struggle for power, and maybe at the same time to convince the west that this new faction is the best one with which to do business. It might seem angry and impulsive, but actually is canny

 

#66029
I've posted a lot of tweets with Prigozhin today.He's intensifying his criticism of Shoigu and Russian defense ministry.Putin shows no reaction to this. Ergo, Putin has his own interest in these events.Possibly, we will soon see either some new appointments or new accidents.…

 

#66031
Ukrainians wondering if this is part of a coup attempt. https://t.co/rm3Tg3jn5N

 

#66033

Prigozhin is using his words carefully. Declaring war on the “Ministry of Defense” sounds nonsensical if you’re accustomed to unity of command and government. But thus far it seems he is trying to avoid announcing an attack on Putin himself or his authority. Just Putin’s army. 

#66034
1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Prigozhin is using his words carefully. Declaring war on the “Ministry of Defense” sounds nonsensical if you’re accustomed to unity of command and government. But thus far it seems he is trying to avoid announcing an attack on Putin himself or his authority. Just Putin’s army. 

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#66035
Girkin: "A coup attempt is underway".Later: "If this isn't a fake (which it can be), the military coup has started. But if it isn't a fake, then the situation with the face-off between MoD and Wagner is out of control and needs immediate involvement by the president. If we…

 

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#66037
1 minute ago, The Dog said:
Girkin: "A coup attempt is underway".Later: "If this isn't a fake (which it can be), the military coup has started. But if it isn't a fake, then the situation with the face-off between MoD and Wagner is out of control and needs immediate involvement by the president. If we…

 

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#66039
3 minutes ago, The Dog said:
Girkin: "A coup attempt is underway".Later: "If this isn't a fake (which it can be), the military coup has started. But if it isn't a fake, then the situation with the face-off between MoD and Wagner is out of control and needs immediate involvement by the president. If we…

 

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#66043

NAFO makes some crazy shit sometimes. I swear I saw this in cut scenes from a video game in the early 2000s.

Rep. Senator Lindsey Graham warns that if #Russia detonates a nuclear weapon inside #Ukraine or destroys a nuclear facility it should be considered an attack on @NATO itself b/c of the inevitable spread of radiation to neighboring countries. The response should be "catastrophic".

  

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#66044
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During the coup in USSR in 1991, "Swan Lake" ballet was broadcast on all TV channels.

 

#66045
50 minutes ago, The Dog said:
Full message of Prigozhi "declaring war on the Russian Ministry of Defence:"PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped.They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we…

Full message of Prigozhi "declaring war on the Russian Ministry of Defence: "PMC Wagner Commanders’ Council made a decision: the evil brought by the military leadership of the country must be stopped. They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forgot the word “justice”, and we will bring it back. Those, who destroyed today our guys, who destroyed tens, tens of thousands of lives of Russian soldiers will be punished. I’m asking: no one resist. Everyone who will try to resist, we will consider them a danger and destroy them immediately, including any checkpoints on our way. And any aviation that we see above our heads. I’m asking everyone to remain calm, do not succumb to provocations, and remain in their houses. Ideally, those along our way, do not go outside. After we finished what we started, we will return to the frontline to protect our motherland. Presidential authority, Government, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Rosgvardia, and other departments will continue operating as before. We will deal with those who destroy Russian soldiers. And we will return to the frontline. Justice in the Army will be restored. And after this, justice for the whole of Russia."

Russia is on the verge of a military coup" - GirkinWTF IS GOING ON 😯😯😯😯😯 https://t.co/UswLKdl0SG

 

Do you know what I did not see a lot of in that video where Wagner says it was attacked by the Russian MOD?  Bodies of dead or injured Wagner fighters.  I only saw one, which was turned away and could have just been someone laying on the ground.  Damage shown, but no people and a few fires that looked like camp fires.  But the quote was.  "A huge number of our comrades died, we will decide how to respond to this atrocity" - Prigozhin"

Almost like the video is part of a false flag, and Wagner prepositioned for whatever goal they had and then released a video for sympathy and justification. 

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#66047

Holy shit if true:

Ukrainian "Bakhmut Demon" 😳: "The leftovers of Wagners on the outskirts of Bakhmut opened fire on the regular roads of the Russian Federation.Our assault brigades see everything, systematic strikes are now being carried out on the positions of the Russians.You would hear…

"The leftovers of Wagners on the outskirts of Bakhmut opened fire on the regular roads of the Russian Federation. Our assault brigades see everything, systematic strikes are now being carried out on the positions of the Russians. You would hear the radio broadcast of these *** now. The impression is that part of the Russian regular troops are killing their own, and it seems that part of the military is supporting Prigozhin. While it is not clear what is finally happening, it is a bloodbath"

#66048

Prighozin talks about how wrong it was for some russian oligarch to be traded for Uke POWs and Russian soldiers are left as Uke POWs. But at the same time has been crystal clear that Russian soldiers that surrender and are returned to Russia get a sledge hammer to the head.

And how does he believe Wagner can take on the Russian MOD when just a few weeks ago he made it crystal clear that Wagner cannot fight without ammunition from the MOD?

 

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