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#66501

seems like russia has complete control. 

Wagner soldiers order burgers in a former McDonald's (now called “Vkusno i Tochka) in Rostov.Civil war makes you hungry

 

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#66502
6 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

So they are expecting them to turn themselves in when they reach Moscow?   Looks like open fighting is going to have to happen at some point.  

The only person we've seen in all of this tonight, that knows what they are doing, is this street sweeper in Rostov

Lol

 

#66503
3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The last big internal crises in Russia (1991 and 1993) were pretty shambolic and confusing affairs where soldiers did a lot of milling about, a bit of shooting, and a lot of waiting but little real fighting. This is not a civil war or ethnic conflict or a Russia with real revolutionary zeal. Russian soldiers don’t really feel like shooting each other for these mafia bosses and Putin’s worst play is to publicly lose control of a situation. We’ve even seen in Ukraine that narrative is as important to him as reality. 

Setting the East Ablaze is my next read after a bio on Lafayette. 

#66504
Updates:🇺🇦 have been confirmed to be in control of a warehouse complex east of Avdiivka, previously considered to be 🇷🇺 held.

actual ukraine update here

Perimeter around the Wagner Center in Saint Petersburg being guarded by the Kremlin regime.
Russian helicopter pilots were told they would be attacking Ukrainians, not Wagner's mercenaries. Russian propagandist: "Regarding downed helicopters. The helicopters that were working on the Wagner PMC convoy, were allegedly working on Ukrainians, the task was presented to…

 

#66506
3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

treason. betrayal. internal rebellion is a threat against the country and our people Putin talks about the path of treason. The Armed Forces have been given orders, and the terrorists will be held accountable by law. 

link? 

#66507
1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Follow along with Putin here:

 

Translate Ag! Damn, we love you here, and love your job, but dammit, earn your McPutin. 

#66508

Random stuff from Rob Lee

Video from a Russian channel of a Wagner column reportedly in Voronezh oblast. The convoy includes a Z-STS and four Chekan MRAPs. https://t.co/iVZok1xCBt
The other official is Deputy Chief of the GRU/GU Vladimir Alekseev who was in charge of forming PMCs and coordinating with them for the MoD. Prigozhin clearly wanted to make a point that he isn't subordinate to a Deputy Defense Minister or Deputy Chief of the GRU. 2/
And Yevkurov is a well-know figure. He was a VDV officer and received the Hero of Russia award for the Dash to Pristina. Prigozhin clearly wants to make clear that he is a higher status than these officials, comparable to Shoigu's level.3/https://t.co/kn8N6Bh4bK

 

#66509
Putin promises to fight back:❗️Putin: "They're pushing us to a defeat and capitulation ... a strike against Russia, our people .. our actions will be BRUTAL ... everyone who consciously went on this path will take an immediate punishment ... all departments have been instructed…

Awwww yeah.

#66510

Putin looks weak as fuck, and totally incapable of controlling things around him, including small civil wars by his hand-picked chef/mercenary. 

Russians are apparently fine with a competent strong man dictator, but they want no part of a weakling. 

#66511
180 #Russian soldiers surrendered to the Wagnerites.
1/ Russia's security forces are reported to be in disarray following the attempted mutiny by the Wagner Group. It seems to have been perfectly timed for a moment – Friday night – when many personnel were too drunk to respond quickly, while others are refusing to fight Wagner. ⬇️
All Mass Events in the Moscow, Voronezh, and Rostov Regions of Western Russia have been Cancelled until further notice.
❗️Putin: The battle for the fate of our people against the West needs unity ... Thus, actions dividing our actions are a betrayal of our brothers-in-arms ... a strike to the back of our people ... like in 1917 ... when our country was divided ... We will not let this happen ...…

 

#66512

Pretty crazy how the average American is like hum ok when they hear about this.  Texts about it in a group text and the next text was about bitcoin going up lol.  Talked to some people tonight and they’re like oh, then turn conversation to the Astros.  

#66513

The aggy prof has some good stuff up, and this is a real surreal moment

At the Bugaevka border crossing in Voronezh Oblast, another 180 Russian soldiers and employees of law enforcement agencies agreed not to interfere with the actions of Wagner PMC and laid down their arms
Gunfire is heard in Voronezh

 

#66514
7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

link? 

I was doing a poor job of live blogging as I listened to the speech being translated on CNN

#66515

If you want to follow his take on Putin's speech

Putin admits that Rostov is captured by the Wagner PMC
"What we are facing now is treason. Ambitiions and personals interests led to betrayal" Now clock is ticking and we'll see for how long Prigozhin is able to survive

 

#66516
1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

I was doing a poor job of live blogging as I listened to the speech being translated on CNN

You are forgiven. We are just the night crew! 

#66517
"Prigozhin is pushing the country into anarchy and unrest, in the end there will be defeat." - Putin https://t.co/IWl7X1uhvc

 

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#66518
6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Translate Ag! Damn, we love you here, and love your job, but dammit, earn your McPutin. 

Lol. I’m on a tram listening with earbuds. The thing that stood out is his reference to 1917. I wouldn’t have brought that up, because of course 1917 ended badly for the leader that brought the country to war. He’s announced that Prigozhin is a traitor, he’s give regular Wagner troops an “out” if they cut it out now. Illusion of control— all the appropriate agencies have orders and Rostov will be blockaded. Response will be harsh. 
 

Up front he talks about how this is all external powers that are seeking to undermine Russian unity. 

#66520
1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Lol. I’m on a tram listening with earbuds. The thing that stood out is his reference to 1917. I wouldn’t have brought that up, because of course 1917 ended badly for the leader that brought the country to war. He’s announced that Prigozhin is a traitor, he’s give regular Wagner troops an “out” if they cut it out now. Illusion of control— all the appropriate agencies have orders and Rostov will be blockaded. Response will be harsh. 
 

Up front he talks about how this is all external powers that are seeking to undermine Russian unity. 

You da man! Good dad and a good Surly! Get the kids some ice cream and write it off on the tree fiddy fund! 

Boys are going to fight. Anyone who moved north is two things. One troop off the UA front and two someone who signed a contract. A lot do not understand what that means. You are in. Prediction, harsh fighting a bit further north, then an "agreement" is reached. Shogun is fucked. But it won't end there. 1917-1924 is coming. 

#66522
2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Boys are going to fight. Anyone who moved north is two things. One troop off the UA front and two someone who signed a contract. A lot do not understand what that means. You are in. Prediction, harsh fighting a bit further north, then an "agreement" is reached. Shogun is fucked. But it won't end there. 1917-1924 is coming. 

So where are we on the 1917 timeline.  I need to brush up on that part of Russian history.

#66523
Just now, atomheartbevo said:

Not going to lie, the Titanic thread leading back into this thread, been insane week.

That was fun (sadly, but this is Surly), but this is the best thread. Some damn good minds on here plus we are hoping Helo will chime in with some TikTok comments. 

 

#66524
3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

free on YouTube right now

 

I had to watch a Convoy / Mr. Billion double feature for a month when we were underway. NO MAS!!!

#66525
2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So where are we on the 1917 timeline.  I need to brush up on that part of Russian history.

Maybe February. But— we’re a ways from there, yet. 

#66526
2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So where are we on the 1917 timeline.  I need to brush up on that part of Russian history.

Depends. So 1917 was the big hit that started a bunch of shit. You had armored trains running W-E, US/UK troops in occupation. Basically Russia was in turmoil, but the focus was in the two main cities. That is why I brought up a broader timeline. 

ts

I think we are on a change in leadership. The question who wins the race for the Dacha since the boats have been seized. 

#66527

Just checked Moscow time and it’s only 10:30 am, I’m guessing the real fireworks won’t happen until later in the afternoon or tomorrow.  Pringles can’t roll up to Moscow with a rushed convoy and no plan, he has to stage for a bit.  Or that’s what a smart man would do atleast.  

#66528
Just now, Hook1997 said:

Just checked Moscow time and it’s only 10:30 am, I’m guessing the real fireworks won’t happen until later in the afternoon or tomorrow.  Pringles can’t roll up to Moscow with a rushed convoy and no plan, he has to stage for a bit.  Or that’s what a smart man would do atleast.  

He is waiting for his Orca Navy to sink the black sea fleet 

#66529
9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Not going to lie, the Titanic thread leading back into this thread, been insane week.

Now, if we could convince some Russian Oligarchs we could get them on a sub made out of carbon fiber AND they can see the titanic, now work with me here..... Southern Argentina and we can shoot some dove. We ain't going on the sub. But @Nicole44 says she can build one. 

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#66530

The big thing stopping the 1917 comparisons is the complete lack of mass interest or zeal for change among regular people. It just doesn’t exist now— and Putin has spent decades suppressing any desire for political engagement on the part of regular Russians.  Apathy helps Putin for the most part. I am doubtful that Prigozhin is the figure to awaken the soul of Kuzma Minin in the Russian peasant mass. But we shall see. 

#66531
Just now, Hook1997 said:

Just checked Moscow time and it’s only 10:30 am, I’m guessing the real fireworks won’t happen until later in the afternoon or tomorrow.  Pringles can’t roll up to Moscow with a rushed convoy and no plan, he has to stage for a bit.  Or that’s what a smart man would do atleast.  

You don't think he has a plan?  I don't know if he reaches for Moscow today, but I doubt he just launched a major military operation because he had a bad day.  

#66533
2 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The big thing stopping the 1917 comparisons is the complete lack of mass interest or zeal for change among regular people. It just doesn’t exist now— and Putin has spent decades suppressing any desire for political engagement on the part of regular Russians.  Apathy helps Putin for the most part. I am doubtful that Prigozhin is the figure to awaken the soul of Kuzma Minin in the Russian peasant mass. But we shall see. 

That and the core of the folks who might be interested the most all fled ahead of mobilization last fall.

Meanwhile, if this is true, #239543 of insane things that have happened

Wagner began to set up roadblocks in the Rostov region 👀
PMC "Wagner" took control of Rostov and Voronezh, and then headed for Krasnodar and Volgograd. No one prevents them on their way "to Moscow".Map: https://t.co/Mu0ATsW69W

 

#66534

Futurama Squinting GIF

BREAKING ⚡⚡⚡In the Oryol region, Tula and Kaliningrad, the counter terroristic operation regime has been introduced,

 

#66535
5 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Just checked Moscow time and it’s only 10:30 am, I’m guessing the real fireworks won’t happen until later in the afternoon or tomorrow.  Pringles can’t roll up to Moscow with a rushed convoy and no plan, he has to stage for a bit.  Or that’s what a smart man would do atleast.  

He hits Monday. After Church. His troops get blessed early. Theirs are in Service. 

Meanwhile assets move around the city and we will see some more fires and disruptions. If I was (what the fuck are we calling him?) I would fuck up the subways monday morning. 

Go on a ring road, straight at the Kremlin with rapid and mean troops who hate Putin. A Fuck You battalion. 

#66536

I am curious if he is going for Moscow or taking control of the Russian army.  At this point, he could completely choke off the southern half of the front.  That is some fucking leverage.  

#66538
Meanwhile, banners urging people to join Wagner PMC are being pulled down in Russian cities. - Russian media
Storm-Z fighters on the front lines say they support Prigozhin's campaign against the "rats in the rear" (commanding officers) and are ready to join if he needs them. Storm-Z consists of convicts and was originally set up by the Russian Ministry of Defense to compete with Wagner.

 

#66539
5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The big thing stopping the 1917 comparisons is the complete lack of mass interest or zeal for change among regular people. It just doesn’t exist now— and Putin has spent decades suppressing any desire for political engagement on the part of regular Russians.  Apathy helps Putin for the most part. I am doubtful that Prigozhin is the figure to awaken the soul of Kuzma Minin in the Russian peasant mass. But we shall see. 

You ain't kidding. Over the last couple of years, I've been watching those man-the-street videos on the 1420 YouTube channel. The folks who bother to answer questions seem so programmed to speak in such a way that their sentences lose all meaning, most especially if they oppose Putin's policies. Only the most brazen ones (either young or old) will clearly state their opposition.

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#66540

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That moment when you wake up and look at your phone, and you realize that this thread is 20 pages longer. 

#66541

I just hope this news is filtering to the Russians entrenched in Ukraine.  It can't be great for morale.  Hey, I might get shot by the Ukrainians, shot by wagner, or shot for treason.

#66542

Going straight for Moscow is the short but really high-risk play.  Gathering support in the south among soldiers who don’t want to go or have gone to Ukraine and seen the shit-show, appealing to nervous populations that have seen the Ukrainian strikes, and promising to do something— that is the longer play. 
 

Reminder that the Whites under Denikin held out longest and had their best success in the south. 

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#66543
1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

My mom did not take me to my soccer game cuz she had to deal with some BS in a certain nation south of Texas.

 

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

Beavis: My dad didn't slog thru the jungles of Vietnam just so you could take your kids to soccer during a coup.

Butthead: Your dad wasn't in Vietnam.

Beavis: That's what I said.

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#66544

To remember as we try to keep track of this. Our main sources are a state media that lies about everything, an MOD that lies about everything, and a mercenary warlord with his own troll farm. 

#66545

In case anyone is up for some Eastern European hipster shit while waiting for more news. Makes me miss Justine's.

 

#66547
36 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

You da man! Good dad and a good Surly! Get the kids some ice cream and write it off on the tree fiddy fund! 

Boys are going to fight. Anyone who moved north is two things. One troop off the UA front and two someone who signed a contract. A lot do not understand what that means. You are in. Prediction, harsh fighting a bit further north, then an "agreement" is reached. Shogun is fucked. But it won't end there. 1917-1924 is coming. 

Write it off? 
 

 

#66548
Prigozhin👀👀👀

 

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#66549
Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 24 June 2023.Find out more about Defence Intelligence's use of language: https://t.co/K6An5jd2B8🇺🇦 #StandWithUkraine 🇺🇦

 

#66550

 

Situation in Voronezh region - Russian media.

 

 

If Progozhin ends up in prison; Wagner will recruit him back, going full circle ⭕️

 

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