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#69351
5 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

I have been saying that since the git go. No matter how strong the Russian's attack was, this was not going to end quickly. AFU needs to take their time and hammer them when the opportunity presents.

 

 

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#69352
The EU's legislative body stressed that Belarus under Lukashenko's regime bears responsibility for crimes committed against Ukraine, particularly for the deportation of Ukrainian children.https://t.co/13ZfqIfTeA
❗️Another victory on the legal front. @ECHR_CEDH rejected Russiaʼs lawsuit against Ukraine. Let me remind you that in it 🇷🇺 claimed that 🇺🇦 was allegedly responsible for killings, abductions, forced relocations, interference with the right to vote, restrictions on the use of the…

 

#69353
14 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

What they are doing in the North isn't defensive, they intend on and are in fact attacking.  Time to hammer them.  

#69354
16 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

 

9 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I have been saying that since the git go. No matter how strong the Russian's attack was, this was not going to end quickly. AFU needs to take their time and hammer them when the opportunity presents.

Yep to both of these.  While we long for a rapid breakthrough and collapse (and it's still in the cards, just not anytime soon), we're firmly in the "let's WALK down there, and fuck ALL of 'em" stage.  Russia's defeat, if it is to come, will look like most defeats: very slowly, and then all at once.  We are still in the "very slowly" phase, and will be for some time, because Russia's military resources are large in number, and as noted repeatedly, "quantity has a quality all its own."  A million men armed with sharpened sticks is still a million men.

#69355
Just now, BamaATL said:

What they are doing in the North isn't defensive, they intend on and are in fact attacking.  Time to hammer them.  

i agree.  it's the overall tone of 'these guys are a joke' that bugs me.  we might have half a million more deaths in front of us.  pickett / battle of the bulge etc analogies that imply a larger context of 'last gasp' are off base.

#69357
35 minutes ago, Parliament said:

How well will Ukraine's kickass new cluster munitions work on these Russian troop concentrations once they start moving?

Better than their old cluster munitions. Wait, they did not have any! 

#69358
1 hour ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

russia is excellent on d.  now they are playing defense.  lot of wishcasting on how the amassing of additional troops for russia means russia is doomed.  we are in for a long haul, gentlemen.  

I mean, the Ukrainians are correct that we're asking them to fight in ways that we never would. The article saying how we're disappointed that Ukraine isn't thundergunning their way through the Russians while lacking air superiority and artillery ammo kinda shows the disconnect between expectations and the tools we've given them to succeed.

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#69359
It seems like UA forces have crossed the "river" in Kam'yans'ke.The "river" is more like dry ditch, but it has still been the divider between troops since RuAF tried to cross it during the winter. . https://t.co/TMQGZt7b74

 

#69360
1 hour ago, Nivek said:

I am not an IT guy, but maybe block outgoing emails to certain addresses/countries or rather limit them to only verified ones?

 Office Space Case Of The Mondays GIF

This isn't the problem. This control is already in place. The issue is all of the inbound emails from non-military email systems.

 

#69361

Neither the Battle of the Bulge nor Pickett's Charge ended their respective wars.  WW II went on for six more months in Europe, and involved hard fighting the whole time.  The Civil War lasted almost two more years after Pickett's Charge/Gettysburg, and involved many more horrific battles.

I don't think that anyone is saying that crushing the Russian offensive in the north will end the war, although things could happen where it could.  It's more likely that it will further deplete Russian resources and give Ukraine a better chance to win the war and end it earlier than they otherwise might.  We'll have to be patient and see.

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#69362

The key thing to understand about Russia’s maybe offensive is that it represents a desperation move from a nation that no longer has a clear path to victory as it defined victory for itself. Even if it is “successful” there is no end game here that gives Putin the win he envisioned in February 2022. This desperate scrabbling over square kilometers is deeply stupid from the Russian side, while tragically necessary from the Ukrainian side since it is their land and their people. 

#69363
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Roman Abramovich are mediating talks to repatriate Ukrainian children taken to Russia – the issue that got Putin indicted for war crimes by the ICC.story with @NastyaStognei @ChristopherJM @HenryJFoy @SameralAtrush @adamsamson https://t.co/yUvnIyti8H

 

 

#69364
with some really striking data courtesy of @xtophercook

 

How #counteroffensive is going? Our new report from the frontline between donetsk and zaporizhzhya oblast. With #marines, @slidstvo_info anf of course @Kolian_Pastyko https://t.co/9CaUT5UAQR

 

 

 

#69365

Are they really excellent on defense or are they just built to stall the limited warfare capabilities of Ukraine?    

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Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Roman Abramovich are mediating talks to repatriate Ukrainian children taken to Russia

Seems like the introduction to Taken 4 starring Liam Neeson.

#69369
6 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Seems like the introduction to Taken 4 starring Liam Neeson.

Fuck, I think they are on Taken 5 now.

#69371
36 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Roman Abramovich are mediating talks to repatriate Ukrainian children taken to Russia – the issue that got Putin indicted for war crimes by the ICC.story with @NastyaStognei @ChristopherJM @HenryJFoy @SameralAtrush @adamsamson https://t.co/yUvnIyti8H

 

 

Well I didn't see SA entering the discussion that way. Good on them.

#69372
1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Well I didn't see SA entering the discussion that way. Good on them.

SA isn't doing a damned thing that isn't good for SA.  I have serious doubt about the intentions and the possibility of results based on who's involved. 

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#69373
24 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Well I didn't see SA entering the discussion that way. Good on them.

SA is trying to outbid the ruskies for the white girls. 

#69375
⚡️ American cluster ammunition has already arrived in Ukraine and will soon be ready for use. This was announced by the commander of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Colonel-General Oleksandr Syrskyi in an interview with the BBC. According to the mass media,…
⚡️ The US will soon provide Ukraine with a new package of military aid worth $1.3 billion,

 

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#69377
1 hour ago, Bevo said:

Fuck, I think they are on Taken 5 now.

"At some point, you’d have to wonder if he’s just a bad parent."

#69378
⚡️ Ukrainian pilots will start training on F-16 aircraft in Denmark in August, says the Vice President for International Relations of "Lockheed Martin".The pilots will not leave for Romania until the end of 2024.👉 Follow @Flash_news_ua
⚡️The 14th meeting of the contact group on the defense of Ukraine in the "Ramstein" format has begun.The head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, made an opening speech.👉 Follow @Flash_news_ua

 

#69379
⚡️Achieving quick results during the offensive is now "practically impossible," said the commander of the Ground Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi in an interview with the BBC. He explains this by densely mined territories and a large number of russian strongholds.👉 Follow…
Pavlivka, Donetsk Oblast, Ukrainian forces from the 72nd Mechanized Brigade hit a Russian ammunition dump held at the city community center.

 

#69380
South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said Russia threatened him with war if Putin was detained on an International Criminal Court warrant."Russia has made it clear that the arrest of President Putin would be a declaration of war against Russia. The ICC itself expressed…

^lol, I think that S Africa is making it up looking for a loophole, however If this is true and Russia did tell S Africa that it'll be an act of war if they arrest Putin, then that's hilarious they'll threaten their "ally"

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#69382
3 hours ago, F250 said:

This isn't the problem. This control is already in place. The issue is all of the inbound emails from non-military email systems.

 

Is there not a bandpass type filter to weed out everything that doesn't fit certain criteria?

#69383
3 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Neither the Battle of the Bulge nor Pickett's Charge ended their respective wars.  WW II went on for six more months in Europe, and involved hard fighting the whole time.  The Civil War lasted almost two more years after Pickett's Charge/Gettysburg, and involved many more horrific battles.

I don't think that anyone is saying that crushing the Russian offensive in the north will end the war, although things could happen where it could.  It's more likely that it will further deplete Russian resources and give Ukraine a better chance to win the war and end it earlier than they otherwise might.  We'll have to be patient and see.

2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The key thing to understand about Russia’s maybe offensive is that it represents a desperation move from a nation that no longer has a clear path to victory as it defined victory for itself. Even if it is “successful” there is no end game here that gives Putin the win he envisioned in February 2022. This desperate scrabbling over square kilometers is deeply stupid from the Russian side, while tragically necessary from the Ukrainian side since it is their land and their people. 

It's complete desperation - probably thinking if they can open up something, they can try and sue for peace and/or freeze the lines.  Russia could gamble on a big counter-counter-offensive in the north, but if the lines through Melitopol are cut off and Crimea is opened up to Ukraine, I think Putin just shoots a bunch of missiles and drones at Ukrainian cities while ordering all of those troops up north to get down to Crimea/Melitopol.

And hell, Russian planners are probably not even thinking about the Kerch Bridge - they are so rooted in the mindset of "this is what we would do, so of course it's what Ukraine would do" that they don't have the creativity of Ukrainians cutting supply lines in the south, forcing the Russians to divide their massed forces.

#69384
57 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

^lol, I think that S Africa is making it up looking for a loophole, however If this is true and Russia did tell S Africa that it'll be an act of war if they arrest Putin, then that's hilarious they'll threaten their "ally"

Lest we all forget, it was Russians that joined with the Nazis to invade Poland, and the only Warsaw Pact countries that were invaded (Czechoslovakia and Hungary), were invaded by the Russians, and it was Russians who were killing Latvians when the Soviet Union started breaking up in the early 90s.

If you can count on one thing, it's that the Russians will turn on their allies in a heartbeat.

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#69385
14 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Sadly enough, this was actually accurate.  I think the last guy didn't emerge from the jungle in either Indonesia or the Philippines until 1972.  Imagine hiding out for 27 years after the war was over, yikes.  

I totally get it, I'm married too.

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#69387
Lest we all forget, it was Russians that joined with the Nazis to invade Poland, and the only Warsaw Pact countries that were invaded (Czechoslovakia and Hungary), were invaded by the Russians, and it was Russians who were killing Latvians when the Soviet Union started breaking up in the early 90s.
If you can count on one thing, it's that the Russians will turn on their allies in a heartbeat.

They don’t have allies. They have subjugated client states. Or if they can’t subjugate, they tolerate as long as necessary. For example, the West during WWII. That good will lasted all of five seconds after Hitler was dead.
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#69389

Never forget

Invariably, there are going to be innocent casualties in a war.  However, this is the result of indiscriminate warfare perpetuated by the Russians.  Child deaths are particularly horrid to me because they never got the chance to make choices in life.  I also feel sense of sorrow for any Russian children that might have been killed in this fucking mess, because they too never got a chance to make choices.  In the end, it reinforces my hatred of Putin and his gang that caused this to happen.  We all have choices to make, and leadership of anything that seems to value nothing of innocent lives deserves death.  May he burn in hell.  

#69390
5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Roman Abramovich are mediating talks to repatriate Ukrainian children taken to Russia – the issue that got Putin indicted for war crimes by the ICC.story with @NastyaStognei @ChristopherJM @HenryJFoy @SameralAtrush @adamsamson https://t.co/yUvnIyti8H

 

 

known civil rights stalwarts, all

#69391
5 hours ago, Nivek said:

Are they really excellent on defense or are they just built to stall the limited warfare capabilities of Ukraine?    

 

4 hours ago, Kdub said:

I'm gonna with the latter on that one.

 

4 hours ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

the latter, but since that's the reality we are in, there isn't much difference. 

Y'all should go reread Phillips O'Brien's piece I linked above. He addresses this.

tldr: Your expectations are not in touch with reality; things are going very well right now

#69392
3 hours ago, MillerEP said:
South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said Russia threatened him with war if Putin was detained on an International Criminal Court warrant."Russia has made it clear that the arrest of President Putin would be a declaration of war against Russia. The ICC itself expressed…

^lol, I think that S Africa is making it up looking for a loophole, however If this is true and Russia did tell S Africa that it'll be an act of war if they arrest Putin, then that's hilarious they'll threaten their "ally"

Yasinuvata... BAVOVNA 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

 

With friends like these...

#69394
5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
with some really striking data courtesy of @xtophercook

 

How #counteroffensive is going? Our new report from the frontline between donetsk and zaporizhzhya oblast. With #marines, @slidstvo_info anf of course @Kolian_Pastyko https://t.co/9CaUT5UAQR

 

 

 

When we visited Armenia, our diplomat friend pointed to all of the high-end cars on the road -- lots of Mercedes SUVs, BMWs, etc.  Which seems unusual for a pretty poor country.  He explained that vehicles are THE status symbol in Armenia, and status symbols are important.  So...all of the totaled Mercedes, Audis, etc. from Europe that are salvage-title POS's after being wrecked?  They get fixed up and sent to Armenia.  Because a half price salvage title BMW is still a BMW to all of your neighbors.  Thus, Armenia already had established an apparatus for getting a shitload of used/wrecked western vehicles there.  Not surprising that they'd be flipping some for profit.

Would be much cooler if they put some 90 day delayed fuse bombs under the hood of them, though.

We should help them do that.

#69395
BREAKING:2000+ Wagner troops have entered Belarus together with 362 military vehicles.Source: Hajun

Russia launching cruise missiles from the Black Sea again.

Launches of Kalibr cruise missiles from the Black Sea have been recorded. Go to shelters.

 

#69396
2 hours ago, Nivek said:

Is there not a bandpass type filter to weed out everything that doesn't fit certain criteria?

It's pretty common for the military to require encryption when dealing with non-military organizations but something like that usually doesn't get put in place unless it's going to be a regular exchange of emails because it's a pain in the ass.

If something as basic as PGP is used those mistyped emails sent to Mali wouldn't be an issue. The challenge is all of this requires work on the other side at every organization and it's damn near impossible to enforce outside of sending a best practice notice. Even then that wouldn't address all of the one-off type emails from civilian organizations.

#69398
4 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
BREAKING:2000+ Wagner troops have entered Belarus together with 362 military vehicles.Source: Hajun

Russia launching cruise missiles from the Black Sea again.

That seems weird. Russia must be replacing Lukashenko soon.

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#69399
17 hours ago, F250 said:

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I was curious when that episode of Gilligan's Island aired. It was January 9, 1965.

When that aired, there were still four Japanese holdouts playing advanced Where's Waldo-san. 

 

#69400
50 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

When we visited Armenia, our diplomat friend pointed to all of the high-end cars on the road -- lots of Mercedes SUVs, BMWs, etc.  Which seems unusual for a pretty poor country.  He explained that vehicles are THE status symbol in Armenia, and status symbols are important.  So...all of the totaled Mercedes, Audis, etc. from Europe that are salvage-title POS's after being wrecked?  They get fixed up and sent to Armenia.  Because a half price salvage title BMW is still a BMW to all of your neighbors.  Thus, Armenia already had established an apparatus for getting a shitload of used/wrecked western vehicles there.  Not surprising that they'd be flipping some for profit.

Would be much cooler if they put some 90 day delayed fuse bombs under the hood of them, though.

We should help them do that.

Did he also point out to you the roaring market in paying off local petty bureaucrats at the DMV for desirable license plate prefixes and suffixes? So you pay crazy for 777 A777 and somewhat less but still cash for 543 B215.

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