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#69701
15 hours ago, MillerEP said:

^I'm always suspect of those videos, mostly because the Ukrainians wrap themselves up in blue, yellow, or green tape. These don't, are laying weirdly, no obvious signs of trauma/blood, and are too bunched up. Screams fake to me.

 

14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, so many of the videos of Ukrainians show them with the tape, that when I don't see said tape, I assume they are Russians.

 

16 hours ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

So this is a net zero (always negative in war cause war)? Ukrainian soldiers capturing a few orcs and fucks supposedly killed the good guys. Who won the battle? 

Honestly, I misread it and thought it was Russian losses from their counter attack. I wouldn't have posted if I had read it correctly.

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#69702
The President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky during a Phone Call today with NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg is reported to have directly requested that NATO assist Ukraine in creating and protecting a “Shipping Corridor” in the Black Sea that will allow the continuation…

 The President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky during a Phone Call today with NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg is reported to have directly requested that NATO assist Ukraine in creating and protecting a “Shipping Corridor” in the Black Sea that will allow the continuation of the Black Sea Grain Initiative. 

 

Text of tweet below. Seems like this would be a huge deal if it happens:

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has agreed to convene a meeting of the newly formed Ukraine-NATO Council at the request of President Zelensky. Alliance spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said that the meeting will be held on Wednesday at the ambassadors’ level to "consult on the latest developments and discuss Ukrainian grain transportation through the Black Sea". 

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has agreed to convene a meeting of the newly formed Ukraine-NATO Council at the request of President Zelensky. Alliance spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said that the meeting will be held on Wednesday at the ambassadors’ level to "consult on the…
Russian Defense Officials have stated that a Ukrainian “Kamikaze” Drone Attack this morning against the Krasnogvardeysky District of Central Crimea caused Severe Damage to an Arms and Oil Depot used by the Russian Black Sea’s Fleet; as a result of the Explosions and subsequent…

 

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#69703
BREAKING:Lukashenko tells Putin:"The Wagner soldiers have started harassing us, they say they want to go to the West, on a trip to Warsaw” 🇵🇱
Lukashenko came to see Putin.He showed a new map from which "the offensive is prepared". Now it's a map of Poland.
A lot of military equipment appeared in the camp of PMC "#Wagner" in #BelarusSatellite images of the former military unit in the village of Tsel published by the Washington Post.The images show that hundreds of military vehicles and equipment have been placed in the camp. The…

 A lot of military equipment appeared in the camp of PMC "#Wagner" in #Belarus

Satellite images of the former military unit in the village of Tsel published by the Washington Post.

The images show that hundreds of military vehicles and equipment have been placed in the camp. The images from July 16 did not show such a large number of weapons at the base. Observers record a significant increase in the military presence in Tsel.

Lukashenka's "Defense Ministry" reported earlier that the "Wagnerians" had started training the military. And not only in Tsel, but also at the training ground near Brest near the border with #Poland, where the mercenaries together with the Belarusian army are holding joint exercises this week.

 

And to round out Luka's clownish and deranged comments:

⚡️ Lukashenko: “The transfer of Ukrainian lands to Poland is unacceptable, if Western Ukraine asks for help, we will provide”omg💀

 

#69704
21 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
13 minutes of battle footage subtitled in English.Ukrainian soldiers from the 3rd Mechanized Battalion of the Separate Presidential Brigade storming a Russian trench, killing 5 enemy soldier and taking 1 prisoner.https://t.co/BTzgVrTVpn

 

This is why Russian propagandists in the occupied territories of Ukraine are considered legitimate targetsAnyone who participates in reloading guns, rides on military vehicles, has no identifying marks, but carries a weapon becomes a combatant.The video shows Sergei Zenin, a…

 

That 2nd video & caption precisely describe why Vietnam War veterans collectively have an undying hatred for Hanoi Jane Fonda.

Edited by Armybrat

#69705
💪🏻🇺🇦 A convoy of M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and Leopard 2A6 tanks break through the occupants' defense!TG: https://t.co/Mu0ATsW69W

 

DeepState released satelite images of Oktyabr'skoye airfield in occupied Crimea which was recently attacked by Ukraine, destroying large amounts of ammunition.
#69706
Russia is preparing for attacks on energy facilities, Ukrainian intelligence says. Deputy head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications, Vadym Skibitskyi, said that the Russians are carrying out recon to identify the state of the energy system and identify objects.
Last night, Russia fired 17 cruise missiles and 2 ballistic missiles from the occupied Crimean peninsula and from the Black Sea. Many of those Russian-made weapons are - as usual - of low accuracy, especially the X-22 which was used to blow up the apartment block of Dnipro, few…— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

 

 

#69707
19 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

If true, it’s a pretty big and important shift in policy.

Ukraine Situation Report: U.S. Now Pushing To Deliver F-16s “As Fast As Possible”https://t.co/XZqWU9im6R

 

Way over a year late.

#69708

 

BREAKING:After the Friday prayer, thousands of Muslims left their mosques in Moscow for an illegal protest march against the raids of Russian security services against mosques in recent weeks.Nearly 15% of Moscow’s population is Muslim (1 million) https://t.co/bnXEp9qq7U

 

 

#69709
1 hour ago, statsman said:

Not all news is good news. 
 
Minefields, fortifications and Russian air power have combined to largely block big advances by Ukrainian troops in their offensive
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraines-lack-of-weaponry-and-training-risks-stalemate-in-fight-with-russia-f51ecf9?st=pxkr8l5egzcidgo&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

 My opinion? Things that could change the stalemate for the better:

-more and better weapon systems to Ukraine. 

-Russian economic/political collapse

-strategic mistakes by Russia

Things that can change it for the worse:

-Drop in US support

-Ukrainian political collapse (the economy has already collapsed)

-Ukrainian strategic errors  

The upcoming US elections will bring out our worst. 

Yeah it seems to be a contest between Russia's political stability and American political fortitude.

#69714
"This fall or winter, Ukraine also will receive U.S. GLSDB, or Ground Launched Small Diameter Bombs" @missy_ryan @karendeyoung1https://t.co/AISNel8M3z

 

#69715
"The Maldives became the second largest supplier of microcircuits to the Russian Federation after China",
"The South African government is drafting new laws that will allow foreign leaders to stay safely in the country, even if they have an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court in The Hague", - South African newspaper TimesLIVE reports

 

#69716
5 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
"The Maldives became the second largest supplier of microcircuits to the Russian Federation after China",
"The South African government is drafting new laws that will allow foreign leaders to stay safely in the country, even if they have an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court in The Hague", - South African newspaper TimesLIVE reports

 

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#69718
2 hours ago, KYHorn said:
BREAKING:Lukashenko tells Putin:"The Wagner soldiers have started harassing us, they say they want to go to the West, on a trip to Warsaw” 🇵🇱
Lukashenko came to see Putin.He showed a new map from which "the offensive is prepared". Now it's a map of Poland.
A lot of military equipment appeared in the camp of PMC "#Wagner" in #BelarusSatellite images of the former military unit in the village of Tsel published by the Washington Post.The images show that hundreds of military vehicles and equipment have been placed in the camp. The…

 A lot of military equipment appeared in the camp of PMC "#Wagner" in #Belarus

Satellite images of the former military unit in the village of Tsel published by the Washington Post.

The images show that hundreds of military vehicles and equipment have been placed in the camp. The images from July 16 did not show such a large number of weapons at the base. Observers record a significant increase in the military presence in Tsel.

Lukashenka's "Defense Ministry" reported earlier that the "Wagnerians" had started training the military. And not only in Tsel, but also at the training ground near Brest near the border with #Poland, where the mercenaries together with the Belarusian army are holding joint exercises this week.

 

And to round out Luka's clownish and deranged comments:

⚡️ Lukashenko: “The transfer of Ukrainian lands to Poland is unacceptable, if Western Ukraine asks for help, we will provide”omg💀

 

Wagner wants to invade Poland?  1) lol  2) think they’ll start pressing to host nukes again?

 

 

#69720

So all of NATO agrees Wagner = Russia and a Wagner intrusion is Article 5, right? If Wagner fucks around, Germany isn't gonna wanna write a strongly worded note and call it good, right? 

#69721

There may be some haggling about Wagner = Russia, but an invasion from Belarusian territory will definitely trigger Article 5 on Belarus.  Any Russian assets in Belarus would be subject to "accidental" destruction, or intentional if used to assist the invasion.  If invaded, I don't think that Poland would balk at taking out all military assets in Belarus, just to be sure.

#69723

I mean the logic he's wanting is to accept is that while he won't send troops into Ukraine despite Putin's desperate pressure, he is totally willing to send them to attack Poland?

jennifer lawrence ok GIF

#69724
Two noname alcoholics and a propagandist discussing on live Russian TV whether to preserve Odesa or not. Decided on only keeping the Opera house and destroying everything else.

 

 

#69726

We are the good guys, defending the Orthodox Church. Don't believe us? Watch us blow up your church. 

The Kasperiv icon of the Mother of God considered to be the patroness of Odesa was pulled from under the rubble after the Russian terrorist attack damaged the Transfiguration Cathedral. The Kasperiv icon is a historical treasure and the most famous Christian shrine in southern…

 

#69727
4 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

BREAKING:After the Friday prayer, thousands of Muslims left their mosques in Moscow for an illegal protest march against the raids of Russian security services against mosques in recent weeks.Nearly 15% of Moscow’s population is Muslim (1 million) https://t.co/bnXEp9qq7U

 

 

well... i guess we know where the next wave of mobiks will come from

#69728
⚡️Italy offered Ukraine assistance in restoring the Transfiguration Cathedral in Odesa.This is reported on the website of the Italian government."The attacks in Odesa, the deaths of innocent people, and the destruction of the Transfiguration Cathedral have deeply affected…
German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall promises to provide Ukraine with 300,000 rounds for Gepard anti-aircraft systems that help shoot down Shahed kamikaze drones, Bild reported on July 22.https://t.co/nz4ZmH8xQ5

 

#69729
⚡️Ukraine has regained about 50% of the territory seized by russia, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces' counteroffensive will not be quick.This was stated by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Reuters reports."It's not going to happen in the next week or two. I think we're…
⚡️25 architectural monuments were damaged by russian terrorists overnight in Odesa, –– Odesa Regional Military Administration reported.Among them are buildings of the XIX-XX centuries. Documentation continues, experts are working on the ground. 👉Follow@Flash_news_ua

 

#69730
7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

well... i guess we know where the next wave of mobiks will come from

Uhhh, that's already where they've been coming from.

#69731
Russia is dismantling the rubble of #Mariupol brick by brick and moving it to a landfill just outside of town. Residents claim furniture, clothing, and even human remains can all be found there.

Russian soldiers finally go home ☺

#69732
38 minutes ago, MillerEP said:
⚡️Ukraine has regained about 50% of the territory seized by russia, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces' counteroffensive will not be quick.This was stated by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Reuters reports."It's not going to happen in the next week or two. I think we're…
⚡️25 architectural monuments were damaged by russian terrorists overnight in Odesa, –– Odesa Regional Military Administration reported.Among them are buildings of the XIX-XX centuries. Documentation continues, experts are working on the ground. 👉Follow@Flash_news_ua

 

Is that with or without ATACMS and F16s?

#69733
2 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

  If invaded, I don't think that Poland would balk at taking out all military assets in Russia, just to be sure.

fify

#69735
6 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

What can F-16s do that Ukraine can’t do with MiGs they have?  

My guess is volume. I don't remember off the top of my head but feel like they just don't have many aircraft. 

#69736
7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

What can F-16s do that Ukraine can’t do with MiGs they have?  

Part of the issue is that they don't have many MiGs left. There are plenty of F-16s available to Ukraine.

#69737
30 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

What can F-16s do that Ukraine can’t do with MiGs they have?  

Not die spectacularly with ease.

#69738
40 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Part of the issue is that they don't have many MiGs left. There are plenty of F-16s available to Ukraine.

And the F-16s can haul and shoot nearly anything in the NATO inventory.  Good to have that capability.

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Speling is imprtnat.

#69742
1 minute ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

The F-26 came after the F-22, but before the F-35

The F-28 is underrated.

Maybe we could send a shitload of these mini-A10's. They build them in Olney.

 

#69743
“Russian troops are trying to advance towards the Oskil river to create a buffer zone around Luhansk oblast. Heavy battles are fought but we are on the defensive,” Serhiy Cherevaty said, spokesman for the Eastern Group of forces.

 

"On the left bank of the Kherson region, a counter-battery fight is currently underway," Spokeswoman Nataliya Humenyuk from Operational Command South said in a statement. "Our military is trying to clear a certain territory, which they will then be able to take over without…

 

 

#69744
Ukraine has begun using American cluster munitions in the field and is doing so effectively, according to the White House.https://t.co/009W6alud8
Sounds very plausible indeed. https://t.co/qDrXHZRKpk

We really need to give Ukraine weapons without these silly restrictions. Let them decide how to use them.

#69745
The Polish Army could reach Minsk as fast as Prigozhin could reach Moscow https://t.co/T15EaR3CRy
I rest my case. Epic fail from the US in not providing ATACMs. The Biden administration must reverse course, this is about Ukrainians dying. There’s a moral argument here. https://t.co/t8tvIBAKFC

 

#69746
2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:
Ukraine has begun using American cluster munitions in the field and is doing so effectively, according to the White House.https://t.co/009W6alud8
Sounds very plausible indeed. https://t.co/qDrXHZRKpk

We really need to give Ukraine weapons without these silly restrictions. Let them decide how to use them.

They don't know how to use them. They are new. I am sure there are some US Advisors somewhere in the EU providing guidance. That is how it usually works. 

That is why the training Ukraine is getting is so damn important. 

And for the record, I wish we would embed advisors into their Command and Control groups. SF dudes would love to fuck up Russia! 

#69747

Damn this is well done. Fuck Russia. Blowing up cities for an oligarchs ego. 

Mayor of Odesa Gennadiy Trukhanov addresses Russian terrorists.Very powerful clip! Ukraine will win!#Odesa #Ukraine #RussiaIsATerroristState #RussianWarCrimes #RussiaIsANaziState #RussiaUkraineWar #Russia

 

#69748
5 hours ago, Parliament said:

So all of NATO agrees Wagner = Russia and a Wagner intrusion is Article 5, right? If Wagner fucks around, Germany isn't gonna wanna write a strongly worded note and call it good, right? 

4 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

I think the Wagner cunts are planning to invade northern Ukraine. This polish invasion bullahit is just their lame attempt at counter stategery.

Could be trying to open another front in the north of Ukraine, trying to dilute the pool of available troops for the Ukrainian counter-offensive, but damn, that place is heavily mined, there's actually a solid amount of Ukraine forces along the border (active-duty and equivalent to our National Guard/Reserves) that have had 500 days to train and prepare.  It'll be a slaughter.

Russia's biggest problem right now is the flow of NATO weapons into Ukraine.  The dude is ex-KGB. I could see him doing everything possible, up to running Wagner troops up to the Polish border (but not crossing it), to try and make NATO forces think that they have to hold on to their stockpiles in case he tried to invade Poland/Lithuania, as well as make the NATO civilian population try and pressure their leaders to hold back from Ukraine in case Russia does something.

Thankfully, NATO leaders realize that if Russia is defeated in Ukraine, he wouldn't be able to do anything elsewhere against NATO, but I could see Putin believing that he's able to slow down the amount of weapons/ammo flowing into Ukraine.  Russia isn't fully tapped out, and they still have some weapons/ammo flowing in from Iran, but it's got to scare the shit out of them that NATO's military industrial capacity is truly ramping up.

 

Edited by atomheartbevo

#69749

There is also still a chance of Anschluss 2.0 - Lukashenko and Wagner create dangerous conditions along the Polish/Lithuanian border, Lukashenko goes to Moscow, hat-in-hand, asking to join with Russia because NATO is scary.

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#69750
5 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

There may be some haggling about Wagner = Russia, but an invasion from Belarusian territory will definitely trigger Article 5 on Belarus.  Any Russian assets in Belarus would be subject to "accidental" destruction, or intentional if used to assist the invasion.  If invaded, I don't think that Poland would balk at taking out all military assets in Belarus, just to be sure.

Poland standing on the other side of the border right now looking at Belarus.

 

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