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#71151
6 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

 I don’t think he sat down and tried to link all those posts.  And I absolutely value his input on this thread, due to his wealth of knowledge about the politics of the countries involved.  He greatly contributes to our  knowledge of the situation.

My God this board has gone soft.

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    For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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    I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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#71152
40 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Blaming it on women, booze or drugs usually works. In this case, though, I would go with russian bots.

I’m an Aggie and that’s kind of a built in excuse to do something stupid if I’m not an asshole about it. 

#71153
6 hours ago, elfenix said:

it's not a tech glitch, it's that surly will embed a whole timeline if you link to a twitter profile instead of an individual tweet.  it's worked that way for years. 

anyway, nsiap:

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In an act of pure desperation to bolster the crumbling Russian Ruble the Russian Central Bank dramatically raised the key interest rate to 12% (up from 8.5%). This extraordinary increase lays bare how dangerous the plunge of the Russian currency (and inflation) for Russia has…— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

#71154

 

(Almost) Instant Karma is gonna get ya. Russia today, after a dam collapsed.

 

No explosion this time. A dam collapsed north of Vladivostok, Russia.

 

#71155
East of Robotyne. A Lancet hits a Stryker APC of the 82nd brigade. Looking at the footage it seems the Stryker continues to move after it was hit, and that’s the reason Russians cut the footage. First time a Stryker is seen so close to the front.
Footage from the 3rd separate assault brigade.“Regrouping of the assault units during the assault. Contact with the enemy at the shortest possible distances and clearing every "hole" in the new positions taken.”

 

#71156
Since Merdan's threats, I have received dozens more. These people think that I will stop exposing vatniks by threatening me and my imaginary family. Now Merdan is playing the victim card, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. Below are some threats I've received.1/3
And to think that these are probably regular people, some with families and children.Oh, and this is not Merdan's first death threat rodeo - he has threatened to slit people's throats before and has been convicted for it.3/3

 

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#71157
In Mykhaylivka, in temporarily-occupied Zaporizhzhya region, a dispute broke out between Khadyrovites and Dagestanis during the filming of a Russian propaganda video. The fight escalated into a battle. More than 20 occupiers were killed and 40 wounded on both sides.1/2

 

#71159
1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I’m an Aggie and that’s kind of a built in excuse to do something stupid if I’m not an asshole about it. 

Well, speaking of aggy, apparently Russian troops just need to "hold on for another month" and if they lose, well obviously they just ran out of time.

There are so many posts like this in recent days, rus mil bloggers are working overtime trying to cover the situation. You can’t repost enough of them here. It’s actually shunned by the govt so bloggers must keep reminding readers of why revealing this info is valuable- to… https://t.co/whztlmEb0d

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#71160
17 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:
Since Merdan's threats, I have received dozens more. These people think that I will stop exposing vatniks by threatening me and my imaginary family. Now Merdan is playing the victim card, it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. Below are some threats I've received.1/3
And to think that these are probably regular people, some with families and children.Oh, and this is not Merdan's first death threat rodeo - he has threatened to slit people's throats before and has been convicted for it.3/3

 

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#71161
14 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, speaking of aggy, apparently Russian troops just need to "hold on for another month" and if they lose, well obviously they just ran out of time.

There are so many posts like this in recent days, rus mil bloggers are working overtime trying to cover the situation. You can’t repost enough of them here. It’s actually shunned by the govt so bloggers must keep reminding readers of why revealing this info is valuable- to… https://t.co/whztlmEb0d

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Also very aggy of them to play the victim card and describe the shelling of ammunition depots and warehouses as “terrorism”.

#71162
Shoygu unexpectedly declared that Russia has not used cluster munitions yet, which is a strange thing to say considering that Russian reporters have been talking about using this weaponry from the first day of war. Perhaps Shoygu is threatening to use these munitions against…

Shoygu unexpectedly declared that Russia has not used cluster munitions yet, which is a strange thing to say considering that Russian reporters have been talking about using this weaponry from the first day of war. Perhaps Shoygu is threatening to use these munitions against civilians? That sounds like something he would do.

#71163
19 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:
Shoygu unexpectedly declared that Russia has not used cluster munitions yet, which is a strange thing to say considering that Russian reporters have been talking about using this weaponry from the first day of war. Perhaps Shoygu is threatening to use these munitions against…

Perhaps Shoygu is threatening to use these munitions against civilians

Pretty sure they have been doing that, too, since the beginning of the war.

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#71164
Just now, DDD Dad said:

Pretty sure they have been doing that, too, since the beginning of the war.

Yeah, but it could be openly announcing that they are going to do it.  Which is dumb as fuck, but it's Russia.

#71165
Despite a recent statement by Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu that the task of the "special military operation" is to release Russian soldiers from Ukrainian captivity, not all Russian pows want to be exchanged: "Some prisoners ask the Ukrainian authorities to delay their…

Despite a recent statement by Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu that the task of the "special military operation" is to release Russian soldiers from Ukrainian captivity, not all Russian pows want to be exchanged: "Some prisoners ask the Ukrainian authorities to delay their exchange until after their military contracts have expired so that they are not compelled to fight again. A few ask not to be returned at all" - The Economist.

The full article is here: 

https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/08/13/how-russian-prisoners-of-war-see-putins-invasion

 

 

 

#71166
2 hours ago, The Dog said:
In Mykhaylivka, in temporarily-occupied Zaporizhzhya region, a dispute broke out between Khadyrovites and Dagestanis during the filming of a Russian propaganda video. The fight escalated into a battle. More than 20 occupiers were killed and 40 wounded on both sides.1/2

 

It gets better:

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In the temporarily occupied village of Mykhailivka, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, a conflict between units of the Russian army has occurred.

Source: National Resistance Center of Ukraine

Details: Reportedly, on 12 August, the Russian propagandists arrived in the village of Mykhailivka in the Vasylivskyi district of Zaporizhzhia Oblast to shoot a news piece about the "great contribution" of a top official from the Kadyrovites fighters to the reconstruction of Russia-occupied territories in Ukraine. [Kadyrovites are pro-Russian Chechen forces led by Ramzan Kadyrov, the Chechen leader – ed.]

At about 20:00 on the same day, a verbal altercation occurred between Kadyrovites and Dagestanis from another unit of the Russian occupying forces near the Central Park of the village.

 

During the argument, one of the occupiers opened fire into the air from an automatic small arm.

During the fight, one of the participants received multiple stab wounds incompatible with life. It led to an open confrontation between the units with the use of GP-25 Kostyor under-barrel grenade launchers, offensive hand grenades and automatic small arms.

Dagestanis have reportedly won the fight.

The National Resistance Center reports irreversible losses on both sides: 20 soldiers of the Russian units were killed, and 40 more were injured.

The commander of the Kadyrovites (likely a colonel) was sent to frontline positions as a punishment 

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#71167
No more Ladas: This family of a Russian fascist killed in the invasion of Ukraine received a bicycle as an award.

Seems legit:

Shoigu's statements at the Moscow Security Conference:

  • The military resource of Ukraine is almost exhausted.
  • Russia "put an end to Western military dominance."
  • There is nothing invulnerable to Russian weapons on the battlefield today.
  • Soviet-made equipment is in many cases superior to Western equipment.
  • Russia did not use cluster munitions in Ukraine.

 

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#71168

Do we have any surly-ites that have been in active combat-more specifically someone that has driven tanks or APV’s? My question is-how hard is it to see anti tank mines? I’d imagine it’s almost impossible. We don’t have a radar or metal detecting scanner that can detect incoming mines on the ground?
 

I’m still amazed watching videos of soldiers walking around, I feel like I’d constantly be looking down for trip wires or mines. I know then get popped by the orcs. But if Dobby and other Russian convicts are laying mine fields and supposedly mapping them..I could see the maps looking like the back of a kids cereal box. 

#71170
22 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

My question is-how hard is it to see anti tank mines?

Never set foot inside a tank, but I've slept at a Motel 6. It really depends on the mine and how well it was placed. The damn thing may have been buried 2 years by now and the ground has settled. You need explosives and flails to be sure.

#71171
15 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Cluster munitions are perfect for clearing mines and orcs.

 They might incidentally reduce some mine field density but you’d never drive over a mined place because someone cluster bombed it.  50% mined is still awfully mined and I’d imagine it would take a LOT of these munitions to get something down to 50.  

#71172
45 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

Do we have any surly-ites that have been in active combat-more specifically someone that has driven tanks or APV’s? My question is-how hard is it to see anti tank mines? I’d imagine it’s almost impossible. We don’t have a radar or metal detecting scanner that can detect incoming mines on the ground?
 

I’m still amazed watching videos of soldiers walking around, I feel like I’d constantly be looking down for trip wires or mines. I know then get popped by the orcs. But if Dobby and other Russian convicts are laying mine fields and supposedly mapping them..I could see the maps looking like the back of a kids cereal box. 

My BF friend from HS was an Abrams driver with the 24th Mechanized.  His TC was in GW1 when they did the big end-around in open desert.  I've never asked specifically about mines, but he has told me how visibility for the driver is as much as art as a science.  It's not great, but you get used to the process.  The TC out of an open hatch would be your eyes and ears (think Pitt in Fury), but when you have to completely button up, it's tough.  

#71173
2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

My BF friend from HS was an Abrams driver with the 24th Mechanized.  His TC was in GW1 when they did the big end-around in open desert.  I've never asked specifically about mines, but he has told me how visibility for the driver is as much as art as a science.  It's not great, but you get used to the process.  The TC out of an open hatch would be your eyes and ears (think Pitt in Fury), but when you have to completely button up, it's tough.  

I'm aware that this tech wasn't available in the Gulf War, but it is today....do they not have multiple cameras showing the view from the vehicle at multiple angles?  I mean....my wife's freaking Hyundai has that feature, and it cost a good bit less than an Abrams.

#71174
Russians published footage of the raid on the Sukru Okan ship that was stopped in the Black Sea on its way to Izmail. As I understand, the crew of the ship first told the occupiers to go where Moskva went and only stopped after the Russians fired shots?Then the officer…
Video of Ukrainian SSO UAVs dropping munitions on a Russian Strela-10 air defense system and trucks. https://t.co/VE41wG9N2T

 

#71175
Over the past few weeks, Russian forces built new defenses near Chervonoselivka (Zaporizhzhia Oblast).These positions are less than 30 kilometers from the front line in southern Ukraine. (2/4)

 

 

Check out an interactive map and satellite imagery of Russia's defenses in and around Ukraine at the link below. (4/4) https://t.co/JGlYbCrrUE

 

 

 

 

#71176
The victims of Russian shelling of Lutsk were three workers of the #Swedish factory SKF This was reported by the company's spokesman Carl Bjernstam. SKF has about 1,100 employees in #Ukraine, the majority - at the plant for the production of bearings in Lutsk, notes Reuters.…

 

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#71178

I asked the wife about visibility in these, and while she wasn't a driver she's been in them in combat in Iraq 15 years ago (so probably comparable tech to what the Ukrainians have).  She said it was easy to tell where the IED's were, once they exploded.  Basically, while they might be able to spot mines while operating the vehicle, the truth is they are largely dependent on intel and already knowing if they were there or not.  Minefields are laid with 2 different objectives, an obvious deterrent, and then ambush.  Of course in Iraq, the insurgents used only IED attacks, so they were all ambush.   She also operated as a drive Humvees in convey's, prior to the arrival of the MRAP's, and that was more scary than anything as they weren't armored enough to really withstand an attack.  They had that stupid heat seeking rod on the hot of them, which might, key part of this might, trigger the IED but it would still maim or kill the folks in the humvee.  Big game changer with MRAPs, a much safer way if you had to be in that sort of environment.   

Now I did see where apparently due to heat from the Sun the Ukrainians are having good results using thermal cameras at dusk to spot mines via heat.  That's a big deal.  

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#71179

Complete nonsense that Russia hasn't been using cluster munitions, I've bookmarked multiple videos of them doing it, here is how many they used in just one city, Kharkiv:
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#71180
50 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm aware that this tech wasn't available in the Gulf War, but it is today....do they not have multiple cameras showing the view from the vehicle at multiple angles?  I mean....my wife's freaking Hyundai has that feature, and it cost a good bit less than an Abrams.

Dunno, but vehicles driven in the field rapidly become coated in dust and muck and I suspect anything sensitive would get stomped by a Private's boot anyway.

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#71181

Didn't see combat, thank God, but I've crewed every position on an Abrams.  Almost impossible to see mines if they are deployed correctly.  We mostly liked to operate at night since out night vision/thermal imagers were so good.  Many mines use a probe instead of pressure so that it doesn't have to be run over by tracks to explode.  They are easier to see in open ground but are more designed to be deployed in vegetation obviously.  Those are the ones that really scared us because they were designed to blow a penetrator up through the bottom of the tank.   That would usually be the end of the driver.  Running over one with a track would usually just immobilize you instead of killing you.

#71182
54 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm aware that this tech wasn't available in the Gulf War, but it is today....do they not have multiple cameras showing the view from the vehicle at multiple angles?  I mean....my wife's freaking Hyundai has that feature, and it cost a good bit less than an Abrams.

No clue - if they did, they wouldn't really help with anything even halfway decently buried.  Wife has a Hyundai also ironically, and they help parking, but not moving at speed across a battlefield.  I still think the TC is still the main guy.  What they can do is digitally coordinate with all the others in the formation and relay live footage from aerial assets above (if they have them).  

What would be super cool is the driver having the same coordinated camera helmets the F35 guys have - where the cameras overlap so you can "see through" the plane like it's invisible and you can see from all sides in real time.  

Tanks are dangerous to everyone around them.  Hard to see out of.  Hard to stop.  They attract heavier munitions which makes being around them on foot dicey.  

#71183
12 minutes ago, Felix said:

Didn't see combat, thank God, but I've crewed every position on an Abrams.  Almost impossible to see mines if they are deployed correctly.  We mostly liked to operate at night since out night vision/thermal imagers were so good.  Many mines use a probe instead of pressure so that it doesn't have to be run over by tracks to explode.  They are easier to see in open ground but are more designed to be deployed in vegetation obviously.  Those are the ones that really scared us because they were designed to blow a penetrator up through the bottom of the tank.   That would usually be the end of the driver.  Running over one with a track would usually just immobilize you instead of killing you.

My buddy said it would get so cold on coordinated maneuvers all the infantry would gather behind that jet engine and it's exhaust......meaning he's keep rotating the tank away from them and piss them all off....;)

Other stories of crossing streams that were deeper than expected with the front hatch open.  Having fish flopping around in the tank.  Taking out trees when you slide through a turn in the mud.  

But also guys getting really hurt - there was a story (not sure if true) of a driver getting killed because he was sitting high in the seat and the main gun depressing down and crushing his head/neck.

#71184
18 minutes ago, Felix said:

Running over one with a track would usually just immobilize you instead of killing you.

What about a sticky bomb?  You know, you you take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, the coat the whole thing with axel grease. now when you throw it, it should stick. its a bomb that sticks, it a "sticky bomb".

I mean, if you can think of a better way to knock out the tracks I'm all ears

#71185
52 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Dunno, but vehicles driven in the field rapidly become coated in dust and muck and I suspect anything sensitive would get stomped by a Private's boot anyway.

Dude.  The tech to deal with that has existed for decades....

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#71186
2 hours ago, KYHorn said:

During the fight, one of the participants received multiple stab wounds incompatible with life.

Sorry but that's funny

#71187
56 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Dunno, but vehicles driven in the field rapidly become coated in dust and muck and I suspect anything sensitive would get stomped by a Private's boot anyway.

Privates are more lethal than any bullet.

#71189
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm aware that this tech wasn't available in the Gulf War, but it is today....do they not have multiple cameras showing the view from the vehicle at multiple angles?  I mean....my wife's freaking Hyundai has that feature, and it cost a good bit less than an Abrams.

But the tank can withstand a palm tree falling on it.

#71190
3 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

But the tank can withstand a palm tree falling on it.

Goddamn.....your fucking memory is amazing.....AND IT PISSES ME OFF.  TOO SOON.

8 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

You misspelled Lieutenant

Don't criticize what MIA does with his privates.

Just look away, like most decent people do.

#71191
🙏 Ukraine transferred reserves to the Lymano-Kupianske direction in order to restrain the Russian advance, Cherevy .🪖 "Our fire positions have been strengthened, certain methodical recommendations have been provided, and reserves have been transferred. This made it possible…

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#71192
3 hours ago, KYHorn said:
No more Ladas: This family of a Russian fascist killed in the invasion of Ukraine received a bicycle as an award.

 

So there's a Russian version of The Onion, right?  That has to be satire.

#71194
Challenger 2 with "anti drone protective device" attached.

 

Three Bulgarians among the five accused of spying in the UK; these three for the Russian security services. https://t.co/ykOrgAVhq0

 

 

#71196
8 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Three Bulgarians among the five accused of spying in the UK; these three for the Russian security services. https://t.co/ykOrgAVhq0

 

Ah, Vasil, you were doing so well, attaching those skimmers to gas pumps, and making the waitresses give you a kick-back from their tips... but you just had to go "Big Time, Cash Moneys," dintya, dintya?

#71198
When you work with the RU occupiers and try to evacuate, don't expect any help from the Russians. And don't expect any love from your neighbors. (Look at the reactions)

^lolz, well well if it isn't the consequences of your own actions

#71199
7 hours ago, The Dog said:
In Mykhaylivka, in temporarily-occupied Zaporizhzhya region, a dispute broke out between Khadyrovites and Dagestanis during the filming of a Russian propaganda video. The fight escalated into a battle. More than 20 occupiers were killed and 40 wounded on both sides.1/2

 

The real tragedy is that this could have all been avoided with better communications.  Both sides heard the other saying they were going to rape all the locals and then a the fight ensued.  However, if they had just communicated better it would have been clear that the Khadyrovites were talking about raping the men, boys and live stock, and the Russian were talking about raping the women, young girls and elderly women.

Shame.

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