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#72451

Twitter fight between Phillips and Mark

After boneheaded comments by 'anonymous sources' & commentary by mostly uninformed who have never seen combat, there's been increasing back-and-forth about how @NATO shouldn't "lecture" Ukraine's army on anything re their offensive.IMHO, none of this is helpful. A 🧵1/13 https://t.co/FqZQ34Llp6
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It might surprise most to hear that US Commanders in combat (& training) are also provided retired generals as "senior mentors" (we call them "gray beards") who contribute to the education of generals who are doing things for the first time. And they are extremely helpful. 3/
BTW, most of their advice I took, some I didn't. But the mentoring shaped my decision-making. While I had been a soldier for 30 years, commanding several times in battle, I had never been a Division Commander in combat with all the responsibilities of of that higher command. 5
movement of forces, RSOI, operational logistics, and headquarters staff planning and wargaming in training, exercises and in combat. While GEN Zaluzhnyi is extremely talented, he has never before coordinated large scale offensive maneuver w/dozens of combat brigades. 7/
...while moving reserves to the right place, integrating newly mobilized & trained forces, overseeing humanitarian relief and movement of non-combatants out of operational areas, etc, etc, etc.While executing multiple large scale deliberate attacks with breaches on...9/
And, frankly (and perhaps most importantly), when you're the person in charge...you need some friends who are like-minded in your profession of arms. Friends who know what you're going through, who you can throw ideas at, who will give you a shot of whiskey. 11/
Some countered the early reports of a "slow start" of the UAF offensive with "this is expected for this kind of operation" (I was one of those). That offensive is now gaining momentum.Those now stoking "UAF shouldn't pay attention to NATO/US advice" may want to reconsider.13/13

 

I'd personally weigh the actual general over the academic on this particular disagreement

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#72452
Agree completely with my friend @general_ben. It is ridiculous to “trade” anything with Putin, and those suggesting this are blind to his actions over the last 2 decades. https://t.co/CzmdeTxI6n
Guess what. If you dont help Ukraine with some long-range strike, they can actually go out and try and develop it themselves. And they look to have done so. https://t.co/OwcIUnG0QM
Meanwhile, propagandists are not shying away from calling for the genocide of everything Ukrainian in Ukraine. They believe no one met them with flowers because of propaganda, and not because of mass murders.

 

#72455
So much pain. The amount of suffering russia has brought to Ukraine can’t be justified and forgiven.
Vadim Ovchinnikov, senior lieutenant and the commander of a reconnaissance platoon, told his subordinates to shoot at a family trying to evacuate from the village of Severynivka near Bucha, according to the SBU. https://t.co/4qLeEDEwQq

 

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#72457
4 hours ago, C-Man said:

The craziest thing I learned today is that Prighozin owned a catering company prior to starting Wagner. Like as recently as 2010.

Prigozhin made his fortune not really catering, but fulfilling food contracts for the Russian MoD, schools, and other government entities. He was in the restaurant business in the 1990s too. His “catering” company wasn’t really like an event firm. That’s why they called him Putin’s chef. 

#72458
On 8/30/2023 at 6:54 AM, Bevo said:

 

Every few weeks or so I'll see an officer in Futures Command. Any one of those guys could keep this board entertained for weeks. Unfortunately, I don't know what is secret vs. common knowledge so I keep it to myself. Plus, I don't ever get into specifics but keep it topical such as the future of tanks in modern warfare.

I should ask about cheap, mass produced drones. Because it does seem like that is something we are going to need to do or at least something we need to combat. And it does seem somewhat curious to me that drones could accompany stealth fighters and stealth helicopters. It seems to somewhat defeat the purpose of stealth if you increase the footprint or create multiple footprints in the sky. I imagine though that the drones would be somewhat distant from the plane so while there would be lots of things in the sky, it would be hard to get a radar lock to hit any individual drone.

And I imagine the Navy is going to have to totally re-imagine things. They are going to have to stay far away from shore. And carriers might be better off carrying a large number of smaller drones with smart bombs, missiles, and torpedoes rather than large planes with fighter pilots. Using planes as hubs and drones as the combatants is an interesting twist. It would totally change the type of planes and drones needed.

They are already flying

 

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023/03/08/us-air-force-eyes-fleet-of-1000-drone-wingmen-as-planning-accelerates/

 

 

#72459
4 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

That's how he made his wealth and got into the halls of power in Russia. Government catering contracts. The PMC stuff started after that. Because obviously your cater is the best person to put in charge of a private military you need for deniability reasons. 

More accurate to say that the halls of power got him into the (crazily successful) food supply business. He was a bit player in the world of 1990s St. Petersburg where Putin was a city official, but he got enough of a start there to get dragged along when Putin made the big jump and started surrounding himself with the old Petersburg crew and it paid off big for Prigozhin for a while. 

#72462
3 hours ago, Viper said:

I guess this explains Steven Segal too

For those who despise Steven Seagal as much as Viper and I apparently do, I humbly suggest the Space Ice channel on YouTube. The hits never stop.

 

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#72463
1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

More accurate to say that the halls of power got him into the (crazily successful) food supply business. He was a bit player in the world of 1990s St. Petersburg where Putin was a city official, but he got enough of a start there to get dragged along when Putin made the big jump and started surrounding himself with the old Petersburg crew and it paid off big for Prigozhin for a while. 

It's a bit more complex than that, and part of it includes understanding the euphamistic nature of language in Russia.  He was actually a small time convict, petty theft, etc that got caught and spent time in prison all the way back in the 70s and 80s.  Once he got out he opened a hot dog stand in St Pete, which is part of the whole chef thing circles back to.  However, he wasn't selling hot dogs, the was his laundering operation; he was a drug dealer.  Basically, he went from being sort of a small time gangster, went in the joint and came out with new skills.  Of course all this was around the time of the collapse, so then it really became the wild west.  Anyway, he went from the hot dog stand to being other business, usually in dinning and food services, in order to launder his growing enterprise.

At this point, he meets Putin, during a deal which was intended to relieve starvation in St. Petersburg, for $90 million USD, he and Putin orchestrated a fraud together to bilk this thru his food services companies.  Important to remember this part, both of these fucking guys grew up there and had ties to the community, but instead of providing the food they should have to their own community, they just stole it and said screw them.   Shortly thereafter, and if ever there is anything that sort of summarizes Russia, Putin gets elevated to Yelstin's second fiddle and the rest is history.  

The Putin's Chef thing refers to two things.  1.  Which is obvious is the food services, food contracts, and dining aspect.  2.  The other is actually referring to his ability to launder money thru said food enterprises.  

At the end of the day, Prigozhin was just a thug and a murderer.  A generally awful human being.  Fuck him.  

#72465
44 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

For those who despise Steven Seagal as much as Viper and I apparently do, I humbly suggest the Space Ice channel on YouTube. The hits never stop.

 

best steven seagal movie is air force 1. 

#72466
7 minutes ago, elfenix said:

best steven seagal movie is air force 1. 

I think you mean Executive Decision, but I feel you.  

#72467
19 minutes ago, elfenix said:

best steven seagal movie is air force 1. 

 

11 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I think you mean Executive Decision, but I feel you.  

 

Under Siege not close

#72468
7 minutes ago, elfenix said:

best steven seagal movie is air force 1. 

Leguizamo's character in The Menu is inspired by Seagal. Apparently Seagal was such a dick during the production of Executive Decision they killed off his character early and had Leguizamo's character fill in for Seagal. According to Leguizamo, Seagal is a very shitty person which I believe. So he used Seagal as inspiration for his Menu character which is a washed-up has been former movie star.

#72469
1 minute ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

 

Under Siege not close

I believe the point was, it's the one where he immediately died.

#72470
1 minute ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

 

Under Siege not close

seagal dying at the beginning > not actually seeing erika eleniak's boobs

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#72471

NASA dunking on Russia:

NASA has released a Set of Images showing the Crash Site of the Luna-25 Moon Lander of the Russian Space Corporation, Roscosmos which Crashed on the South Pole of the Moon after an Engine Failure on August 19th.

 

#72472
7 hours ago, F250 said:

Leguizamo's character in The Menu is inspired by Seagal. Apparently Seagal was such a dick during the production of Executive Decision they killed off his character early and had Leguizamo's character fill in for Seagal. According to Leguizamo, Seagal is a very shitty person which I believe. So he used Seagal as inspiration for his Menu character which is a washed-up has been former movie star.

I pray this is true.

#72473
My current take on what's going on in Robotyne. Russian forces are defending the trench system south of the town and are counter attacking towards the town. This is most likely the reason they keep claiming Ukraine have not liberated the town.

 

#72474
Successful Ukrainian FPV loitering munition strike targeting a Russian T-72B3, resulting in an ammunition cookoff.

 

The "M7 Bradley Fire Support Team" (BFIST) was spotted for the first time in the AFU 🇺🇦Instead of the "TOW" self-propelled ATGM, target identification equipment is installed, which allows it to work at a distance of up to 20 km and transmits info to artillery systems!

 

 

#72475
⚡️Intelligence Chief: Drone strike on Pskov launched from inside Russia. “We are working from the territory of Russia,” Ukrainian military intelligence (HUR) chief Kyrylo Budanov told media outlet The War Zone on Aug. 31.
Now you see me, now you don’t!Ukrainian sniper of the Bohdan Khmelnytsky Separate Presidential BrigadePhoto: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

 

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#72476
BREAKING:Greece will become a member of the Three Seas Initiative next week, expanding the alliance to 13 states.Moldova will become the second country to receive the status of “Participating Partner” after Ukraine received it last year.The Three Seas Initiative is growing!

 

Today in mine news:In Kharkiv the state emergency service inspected 6.22 hectares and destroyed 73 explosive devices.https://t.co/7H1SgKDLhH
In Ukraine, ordinary civilian drones are proving indispensable in their war effort. This week, I visited a training facility at an undisclosed location to see first hand how this 21st century tech is transforming the battlefield -- often at the hands of some unlikely pilots.

 

#72477
28 minutes ago, KYHorn said:
Now you see me, now you don’t!Ukrainian sniper of the Bohdan Khmelnytsky Separate Presidential BrigadePhoto: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

 

Got Damn... look at the size of that thing,

 

really puts John Holmes to shame.

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#72478

from pravda.ua

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Defence Intelligence of Ukraine (DIU) has posted a video of two Russian helicopters and a warplane chasing a Ukrainian drone in temporarily occupied Crimea. DIU reports that the video features a Ukrainian UAV flying near Cape Tarkhankut. Two combat helicopters and one aircraft are pursuing it at once. Quote: "Our drone left the battlefield unharmed and safely made it back to base despite the continuous fire. DIU UAVs are increasingly getting away unscathed not only after facing Ruscist [Russian] air defence but also in direct clashes with enemy aircraft."

Details: DIU states that the UAV operator commented on the situation as follows: "What a bunch of clumsy losers...".

 

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/1/7417977/

ГУР показало погоню російської авіації за дроном України в Криму

 

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what twitter doing

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#72480

Fuckers..... 

Instead of a thousand words. Margo stands in front of her school, destroyed by Russia.1st September is the start of the school year in Ukraine. For so many kids, learning is very different now.📷: taniasynia/Instagram

 

#72481
2 hours ago, Chopper said:

from pravda.ua

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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/1/7417977/

ГУР показало погоню російської авіації за дроном України в Криму

 

That chopper seems kinda close....seems like Ukraine could send up a few decoy drones, let them get "chased," and then whip them around to zip over to the chopper and blow up sending a bunch of schrapnel into the chopper.

#72482
🇺🇦 The Ukrainian military will receive Slinger anti-drone systems. This was announced by the Executive Vice President of EOS Matt Jones.Ukraine will receive 110 systems that will be equipped with the M113 and another 50 systems with a company called Praktika.
The moment a Ukrainian drone hit the Il-76 aircraft at Pskov airbase during a recent mass drone attack!Two Il-76 were destroyed while 2 others were seriously damaged. It is claimed that several more planes were also hit.

 

#72483
Southeast of Robotyne. A broken Russian tank (T-72B3?) and the dragon's teeth are visible in the direction of Verbove. The Ukrainian soldier filming this seems like he can do that unhindered which indicates it is under solid control.📍47.43297402560655, 35.89773370134289

 

 

 

#72484
BREAKING:Ukraine shot down another Russian Ka-52 attack helicopters in Zaporizhzhia today.Russia doesn’t have that many Ka-52 left by now… Every downed helicopter counts!

 

.@WSJ: Ukraine Fights to Widen Its Puncture of Russian Front Lines https://t.co/KsndQxmadI

 

 

#72485

 

Trust the ZSU!The United States understands that we are advancing:"Any objective observer of this counteroffensive, you can't deny that they have made progress now.""They have achieved some success against that second line of Russian defenses."John Kirby, NSC Spokesman

 

 

#72490
Once there is a little bit of panic, it's hard to keep track of the narrative. This Russian channel forgot they are supposed to be holding the south part of Robotyne. https://t.co/kRnpTaRktF

 

 

#72492
3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

That chopper seems kinda close....seems like Ukraine could send up a few decoy drones, let them get "chased," and then whip them around to zip over to the chopper and blow up sending a bunch of schrapnel into the chopper.

Hit the brakes and he’ll fly right into us…

kaboom

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profit

#72493
1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:
Once there is a little bit of panic, it's hard to keep track of the narrative. This Russian channel forgot they are supposed to be holding the south part of Robotyne. https://t.co/kRnpTaRktF

 

 

Is it bizarre that I read that report and my immediate thought was "oh....it's raining....that must be nice?"

#72496
8 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

I pray this is true.

 

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"I've met lots of these stars like that, maybe before they were washed up," he says. "I mean, now they're washed-up. I kind of based mine on Steven Seagal. I had a bad run-in with him. We did a movie together. It was Executive Decision. He's kind of a horrible human."

https://ew.com/movies/john-leguizamo-steven-seagal-the-menu-interview/

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I was doing this thing called Executive Decision and I was supposed to play the sergeant to his captain. The first day of rehearsal, there was the director [Stuart Baird], Joe Morton, B.D. Wong, Oliver Platt—we’re all big actors, we’re all big boys, we’re all experienced. And we start rehearsing and he came in and was like, [low, breathy voice] “I’m in command. What I say is law.” So I started, like, [snorts]. I mean, who the fuck talks like that? Who comes into rehearsal and says that shit? So I started laughing and he slammed me with an aikido elbow against a brick wall and knocked all the air out of me. I dropped to the ground, and all I could say was, [gasping] “Why? Why?” I really wanted to say that he runs like a bitch and has no hair, but I was afraid. [Laughs.] So on the days when we shot the scene where he died, I showed up so early. I wanted to see him die. It was like a fantasy.

https://www.avclub.com/john-leguizamo-on-returning-to-the-stage-and-antagonizi-1798234082

 

#72497
Anyone that’s been following Ru telegram for a while will be familiar with the Moscow Calling channel, run by war criminal Andrey Kurshin. According to Ru media, he was arrested yesterday for “spreading fakes” about the army. He was another long term critic of MOD methods.

 

Looks like Ukrainian forces are widening the Robotyne salient, driving Russian artillery further from the flanks of the advance. https://t.co/qX8Ly5WJfA
Good to see the NSC criticising the anonymous criticism of the Ukrainians. Hopefully that will end this for a bit https://t.co/PheE1ODC9N

tldr: things going well for good guys

#72498

This is a fantastic reference thread of who to go to. Many will be super familiar to this thread and its followers.

For my own reference and to direct friends to, a list of good and bad sources on the Russo-Ukrainian war. The infosphere has become cluttered with copers, grifters and propagandists, and the increasing algorithmic crappiness of Twitter means you're more likely to see them.

 

#72499
22 minutes ago, F250 said:

Geez, "What happened to Seagal" is one heck of a rabbit hole.

https://www.looper.com/22997/whatever-happened-steven-seagal/

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In 2009, Seagal's side gig became the basis for a reality show on A&E called "Steven Seagal: Lawman." ... Sadly, Seagal reportedly resigned from the force after he found himself the subject of an internal affairs investigation that, according to the Phoenix New Times, sought to uncover the truth about "allegations of sex trafficking and sexual assault." 

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In October 2017, "Inside Edition" correspondent Lisa Guerrero told The Hollywood Reporter about a 1996 audition for Seagal's "Fire Down Below," after which she said he summoned her to his home for a "private rehearsal." She declined, and the lead role she said she was promised went to another actor. Television personality Jenny McCarthy also spoke out, saying Seagal demanded she take off her dress during an audition for "Under Siege 2." 

Several more allegations later...

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It quickly became apparent that simply directing a publicist to deny alleged assaults wouldn't be enough, and Seagal went on the offensive, using an appearance on right-wing fringe conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' InfoWars network to claim he was the victim of a vast, well-funded conspiracy.  Read More: https://www.looper.com/22997/whatever-happened-steven-seagal/

He's had opportunities for a comeback.

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Sylvester Stallone's 2010 hit "The Expendables" showed that there was still a big audience out there for '80s-style action movies, as well as '80s-style action heroes. ... Stallone reportedly offered Seagal a spot in the ensemble, but he turned it down. The reason: Seagal hates one of the movie's producers, Avi Lerner, with whom he worked on several of his direct-to-video features. 

Hey, look, we've come around to being on topic again:

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...[Seagal] also came out in support of Putin's controversial intervention in Crimea. That got him dropped from a gig performing at a blues festival in Estonia. After Putin personally granted Seagal a Russian passport in 2016, the actor was banned from entering the Ukraine.... 

oh good Lord, this is getting comically evil

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But while getting served with papers over sexual misdeeds is sadly not that uncommon in the world of showbusiness, what's less common is getting sued for puppy murder. But as with so many things in life, here Steven Seagal once again breaks the mold.  

Good Lord...:

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According to Julia Sweeney, Seagal wanted to perform a sketch where he played a therapist who wants to sleep with a rape survivor.

I've left a TON of things out, and that's just the Looper article.

Damn, what a shithead.

#72500
1 hour ago, Johnny Chimpo said:

I’m slowly becoming more convinced zeihan is really a clandestine glue sniffer. 

Take a drink every time he

  • Mentions he’s inColorado
  • Makes sure and frames his videos so that you know he’s in Colorado
  • Mentions Russia as an empire
  • Mentions Russia has been invaded many times
  • Mentions that Russia needs to take geographic barriers to protect themselves from everybody else.
  • Mentions nukes

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