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#74001
25 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Kazakhstan has always been one of our bigger supporters.  
 

 

 

 

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Jokes aside, this is a big move for them, they don't have much in the way of shade from anywhere.  I was curious so I looked up their military capability and quite frankly they make Ukraine look like a global superpower.  The have a standing military of 100k, but that's deceiving because of annual mandatory conscription, the truth is they have a professional armed services of about 30k.  A very tiny Navy (more or less search and rescue for the Caspian Sea), an Air Force of about 60 soviet planes, non upgraded, and the rest is general Army.  

Basically, I have to think they are making a play at realigning themselves, and I have to guess with China (silk road and all that entails).  

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#74003
👀 Information has just appeared that the Russian anti-aircraft defense shot down its own fighter jet near Tokmak ✈️
‼️ Chereshnya writes that the Russians shot down their own military plane over Tokmak with an S-300 air defense system.We are eagerly waiting for a confirmation 😈#Tokmak

 

#74005
3 hours ago, Nothing To Add said:

All in on the embargo.  Maybe Armybrat can enlighten us on if countries were still trading with Germany and Japan back in the early 40's.

 

I did not know Armybrat knew Senator Prescott Bush

#74006
1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:
He’s actually smiling https://t.co/jG6Qga7psC

 

Slava Rude!

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#74008

More of the story of the Ukrainian who fell out of the boat during the operation to disable air defenses on the oil rig.

"I really wanted to live": the story of a special forces officer of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine who fell out of a boat and swam for 14 hours in the open sea. In mid-August, a fighter with the call sign "Konan" from the Artan battalion of the Defense Intelligence of…

"I really wanted to live": the story of a special forces officer of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine who fell out of a boat and swam for 14 hours in the open sea. 
 
In mid-August, a fighter with the call sign "Konan" from the Artan battalion of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine was carrying out a special operation in the Black Sea. When the Defenders were returning back, an enemy Su-24 came on their trail. Trying to evade fire, their boat began maneuvering. That's how "Konan" ended up overboard.  
 
Shortly before that, the special forces officer decided to put on a life jacket and remove all his equipment, leaving only a diving thermal suit. In 20 minutes he was already 130 kilometers from the shore.  
 
The fighter admits that at first he panicked, but decided to swim. The landmark for him was one of the gas rigs, which was located about 20 kilometers away from him.  
 
"Konan" swam despite dehydration and fatigue. Only thoughts of his family added to his strength. At one point he saw a boat approaching. There were his brothers-in-arms who had tracked him down with the help of the Bayraktar.  
 
"The first thing I did when I felt the solid ground under my feet, I wrote a message to my wife, but I still haven't told her about what happened" - said the Defender in an interview with UP.

#74009

meanwhile, in Russia…

"If you don't buy, then the prices are fine," - the Minister of Finance of russia about inflationAnd other advice by mighty rulers at the financial forum. By the way, currently in russia, the strongest acceleration of inflation since the beginning of the year is being observed.…

 

#74011
12 hours ago, BamaATL said:

It bears repeating because it's not good news.  On the one hand, it's not surprising, if anything it's sort of surprising this hasn't been done already.  On the other hand, I have to imagine being on a crew building this must be terrifying, because you are a pretty stagnant target a lot of the time.  

UKR destruction of landing craft that RU would have resupplied with is why they are doing this.  I don't expect it to go well.

#74013
5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

Ukrainian forces from the 3rd Assault Brigade destroy a Russian tank with a SMArt 155 sensor fused artillery submunition, Donetsk Oblast.

 

 

Those smart 155s are cool as fuck and worth a Google 

#74015
20 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

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How about this one?

Let's guess what country this is?

 

#74016
13 hours ago, BamaATL said:

True, but the bad news is that it signals intent to dig lines all the way to the sea and fight it out.  Even if the Ukrainians break thru in the next few weeks, the Russians are preparing for this to continue, for a long time.  

It also means that Russia is building new infrastructure for the Ukrainians when they take over.

#74017
38 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

How about this one?

Let's guess what country this is?

 

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#74018
59 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

How about this one?

Let's guess what country this is?

 

Indiana Jones Movie GIF by DPM

#74020
4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Only one country I know of that shoehorns guns into every other activity…

Fucking Iceland

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#74021
Bonus: Why German Taurus missiles are still very much needed by Ukraine, even after they get ATACMS
Several Russian milbloggers claimed that they self-censor the majority of their reporting amidst an apparent wider self-censorship in Russian reporting about the tactical realities on certain sectors of the front. https://t.co/A5du4OngRa https://t.co/Zpq3m2wWaH

Follow-up on earlier report:

Looks like the Russians shot down a Su-35 fighter-bomber over Tokmak last night in a friendly-fire incident.The plane is one of Russia’s most technologically advanced and costs around USD 50 million to produce.Well done Russia…
A Russian Sukhoi Su-35 was shot down by Russian air defence near Tokmak last night in a "friendly fire" incident. The loss was confirmed by Russian sources close to the RuAF. The pilot did not survive.

 

Edited by KYHorn

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#74022

 

Russian POW in Ukrainian hands on the left. Ukrainian POW from Mariupol, during show trials, in Russian hands on the right…As @olddog100ua put it: "It’s like witnessing Auschwitz".#RussiaIsATerroristState

 

Edited by KYHorn

#74023

 

Video of the same Russian attack. As claimed, 4 Russian tanks and 3 BMP’s were destroyed. Near Urozhaine, Donetsk region. https://t.co/8mCNHQeEPY https://t.co/KCUFpglOUm

 

That can perform various combat missions, primarily, of course, in the special military operation zone." Troshev will likely emerge a new, controlled version of Prigozhin. In the backdrop of the mutiny, Troshev clearly chose RU MoD over the Wagner. 2/3

 

It might be the beginning of the MoD finally taking over the Wagner and its network, especially in Africa. Yevkurov and Averyanov (Chief of GRU covert action) travelled in several African countries including Mali, Libya, Burkina Faso and Niger right after Prigozhin's death. 3/3

 

Western countries plan to increase weapon production in #Ukraine, as reported by The New York Times.According to the newspaper, yesterday's visit to #Kyiv by #NATO Secretary General Jens #Stoltenberg and the Defense Ministers of the United Kingdom and France is connected to…

Western countries plan to increase weapon production in #Ukraine, as reported by The New York Times. According to the newspaper, yesterday's visit to #Kyiv by #NATO Secretary General Jens #Stoltenberg and the Defense Ministers of the United Kingdom and France is connected to these plans.

Just have to give them substantial air defense in the meantime. 

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#74024
A delegation of the Taliban arrived in Kazan for talks/negotiations with Russia. What a nice group of friends: Belarus, Syria, Iran, North-Korea, Afghanistan/Taliban.

 

#74025

FYI for Austin peeps. Secretary Blinken is going to be at UT first week of October. 

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will travel to Houston and Austin, Texas, as well as Mexico City, Mexico, from October 3-5, 2023.

In Houston, Secretary Blinken will visit Rice University to meet with former Secretary of State James Baker and participate in a conversation with Director of the Baker Institute for Public Policy Ambassador David Satterfield. The Secretary will also visit the Diplomatic Security Service Houston Field Office. In Austin, he will visit the University of Texas at Austin to participate in a moderated conversation hosted by the Clements Center for National Security.

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#74026
Probably because they know something you don’t. Because the understand the risks of Russia winning and Ukraine loosing this war. Maybe you should do a “fact finding” trip to Ukraine and let us know what you find? https://t.co/EMB115B9Zt

I really don't think a lot of people realize that if Russia were to win, the chances of us actually getting into a straight-up confrontation with Russia increase dramatically.

On a side note, in reference to a comment earlier, I think it's safe to say that most Russian milbloggers are self-censoring, because the ones that don't seem to have a knack for getting in serious shit.

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#74027
10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:
Probably because they know something you don’t. Because the understand the risks of Russia winning and Ukraine loosing this war. Maybe you should do a “fact finding” trip to Ukraine and let us know what you find? https://t.co/EMB115B9Zt

I really don't think a lot of people realize that if Russia were to win, the chances of us actually getting into a straight-up confrontation with Russia increase dramatically.

On a side note, in reference to a comment earlier, I think it's safe to say that most Russian milbloggers are self-censoring, because the ones that don't seem to have a knack for getting in serious shit.

That definitely seems to be the case. I can't remember if this was posted here yesterday:

 

Several Russian milbloggers claimed that they self-censor the majority of their reporting amidst an apparent wider self-censorship in Russian reporting about the tactical realities on certain sectors of the front. https://t.co/A5du4OngRa https://t.co/Zpq3m2wWaH

 

#74028
16 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

And cutting that much energy out of the global supply likely would cause a global recession which likely would backfire politically for most pro-Ukrainian governments. 

Yep.  AN embargo on 10% of the world's oil output would cause oil prices to jump 50% in the short run, maybe more.  So, if you think the American consumer can bare gasoline running $6.50 in Texas and $9 in Cali, then go for it.  Sad but true. 

#74029
The Dragon Teeth at close range, west of Verbove, which ultimately proved to be a rather useless defensive obstacle. It took less than a week to pass it and clear the area around it.

 

Battle through the eyes of soldiers of the 47th separate mechanized brigade in the Melitopol direction.Stunning footage.

 

 

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#74030

Kazakhstan joined the "Coalition of the Willing" and sent troops to Iraq with us. We used them as Base defense. We assigned them as base defense for Al Asad airbase, which was our most important base in Al-Anbar. My first deployment I was stationed there, and we used to get hit all the time. They did a pretty decent job and got in a few firefights while I was there.

 

edit: Confused my second deployment in Haditha (with Azerbajanis) with my first deployment in Al Asad (with Kazakhstan)

 

Edited by MillerEP

#74031
4 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

Pretty sure I posted this story before, both of my Iraq deployments were within the Hit-Haditha corridor. I was stationed at the Haditha Dam during my second tour. Kazakhstan actually joined the Coalition of the Willing and provided "peacekeeping troops" to the Iraq war. They didn't send many, just a company or two, so they weren't super effective, so we assigned them as a base defense for the Haditha Dam. So they were the ones standing guard at the gates etc., and every time we'd come back in from a patrol, we'd always get a good chuckle because they manned the main American-side gate with a ZPU-4 Anti-Aircraft Gun just pointed straight down the road, which we all thought was a novel use of ancient equipment. We were also forbidden from touring/exploring or going into the bowels of the Dam, because that was the Kazakhstani's domain, and we had all heard stories of the units before us having "odd encounters" when exploring down in the dark tunnels and coming face to face with their patrols in the pitch black.

My personal experiences though with them they were friendly enough, but it was obvious that they didn't have a lot of money, so all their equipment looked busted and old to me, and we were skeptical it would actually work if the shit hit the fan. 

what are we talking about here, the butt stuff?

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#74032

The Kazakhs are also going to help Germany.

BREAKING: Kazakhstan vows to increase oil supplies to Germany

 

#74033
Bild: Russia's Black Sea Fleet is in dire straitsBritish intelligence reports that the fleet is still able to perform basic tasks - cruise missile strikes and patrolling local security installations. But recent attacks, such as the strike on the Black Sea Fleet headquarters in…

 

“The [GOP-controlled] House voted 311-117 to appropriate $300 million in Ukraine funds, which conservatives had demanded be stripped out of the main Defense bill. All Democrats voted for the bill, while more than half of Republicans voted against it.” https://t.co/lrRvt8RIrZ

 

#74034
T-90A Got bonked.They claim the cope cage protected the tank. But all optics are screwed and the Shtora-1 detectors are also cooked.Possible location: 47.91104, 37.67929https://t.co/1RcKJYmsqA

 

Fighter of the day.
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#74035
9 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
“The [GOP-controlled] House voted 311-117 to appropriate $300 million in Ukraine funds, which conservatives had demanded be stripped out of the main Defense bill. All Democrats voted for the bill, while more than half of Republicans voted against it.” https://t.co/lrRvt8RIrZ

 

Reagan rolling in his grave thinking about what the Republican party is doing in it's approach of Russia.

Ronald Reagan quote: I'm no linguist, but I have been told that in...

Ronald Reagan quote: They [The Soviet Union] are the focus of evil in...

 

Edited by Kel Varnsen

#74036
24 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

Kazakhstan joined the "Coalition of the Willing" and sent troops to Iraq with us. We used them as Base defense. We assigned them as base defense for Al Asad airbase, which was our most important base in Al-Anbar. My first deployment I was stationed there, and we used to get hit all the time. They did a pretty decent job and got in a few firefights while I was there.

 

edit: Confused my second deployment in Haditha (with Azerbajanis) with my first deployment in Al Asad (with Kazakhstan)

 

I'm certainly not doubting their valor, just saying that they don't really appear to have a formal alliance with anyone else, which is what surprises me.  I don't think they would stand against Russia like this unless China has given some sort of private security assurance.  It would appear, in terms of numbers, even against a very depleted Russia, they wouldn't do very well, and at least on paper, it doesn't appear to me they have anything formal as a security agreement.  I could be wrong though.  

#74037
14 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
“The [GOP-controlled] House voted 311-117 to appropriate $300 million in Ukraine funds, which conservatives had demanded be stripped out of the main Defense bill. All Democrats voted for the bill, while more than half of Republicans voted against it.” https://t.co/lrRvt8RIrZ

 

^ While goodish news, it's exposing a worrying trend. It used to be only a handful of loudmouths who opposed additional aid, I think it was something like 30 in both houses who signed a letter, but now it's half the party. Hope this gets straightened out.

 

#74038
#Ukraine: Serbian 🇷🇸 supplies to the AFU continue- a recent image of a M93P1 30mm HE grenade for AGS-17 automatic grenade launchers, manufactured by "Sloboda" in Čačak, Serbia, 2023.Interestingly, Sloboda attempted to hide the origin by changing the factory code from SČ to AA.

 

#Ukraine: Another entry on the list of Finnish 🇫🇮 military aid to Ukraine - here is a M-46 (130 K 54) 130mm field gun in use with the Ukrainian army.How many of them were transferred by Finland is, as usual, unknown.

 

#74040
4 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  AN embargo on 10% of the world's oil output would cause oil prices to jump 50% in the short run, maybe more.  So, if you think the American consumer can bare gasoline running $6.50 in Texas and $9 in Cali, then go for it.  Sad but true. 

Even worse, at $150/bbl, aggy could afford to fire Jimbo.

#74041
4 hours ago, KYHorn said:
Several Russian milbloggers claimed that they self-censor the majority of their reporting amidst an apparent wider self-censorship in Russian reporting about the tactical realities on certain sectors of the front. https://t.co/A5du4OngRa https://t.co/Zpq3m2wWaH

 

I was listening to Mark Galeotti's podcast In Moscow's Shadow the other day and this post makes me think about his latest episode where he speaks for a bit about the self-sustainability of the war in Russia. The milbloggers are a small part of the discussion (established oligarchs, upcoming oligarchs, construction entrepreneurs were listed of more importance for example) but he referenced this BBC article Ukraine war: Putin influencers profiting from war propaganda which discusses how much money some of the milbloggers are making on advertisements, and notes of course the money will stop if the war stops. He goes on to discuss how certain individuals and groups play by different rules within Russia and gives an example of when the Chechen radical Muslim rebels were looking for weapons to fight the Russian army they first went to the Chechen mafia in Moscow but got turned away because the Chechen mafia worried it would draw too much heat from the government. The Chechen rebels then moved on to ask the Russian mafia to sell them weapons and the Russian mafia were more than happy to provide weaponry to help kill Russian soldiers. The milbloggers complaining about not being able to post more info can probably also be seen as complaining that their earnings are being cut into by censors and the poor performance of the russian military. Ya love to see it. 

 

#74043

Lol

Early model T-54/55 sporting an impressively tall cope cage in Russian service.
Footage of a Russian woman setting up her "fire positions" on the beaches of occupied Yevpatoria, Crimea.🫠
#74044
4 hours ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Even worse, at $150/bbl, aggy could afford to fire Jimbo.

At that price, they’ll be confident that giving him a raise and an extension will solve the problem

#74045

A shot across the bow if you will.  Putin won't give two shits though if small town Russians freeze to death this winter, which my guess is they will.

 

#74046

 

A #Russian drone (I am sure of the origin) crashed near #Galati, 21 km from the #Ukrainian border into #Romanian land at 2.5 km from a town with a population of 270,000.#NATO air police are currently on high alert and flying fighter jets at low altitude.A second drone…

A #Russian drone (I am sure of the origin) crashed near #Galati, 21 km from the #Ukrainian border into #Romanian land at 2.5 km from a town with a population of 270,000.

#NATO air police are currently on high alert and flying fighter jets at low altitude.

A second drone (sources tell me) was heard a few dozen minutes ago.

Even if these drones are not intentionally sent by Russia against Romania, they may also have implications for observing Romania's response. At the same time, these drones are only arriving in #Romania because of the Russian Federation, the one that initiated this illegal, immoral, illegitimate and unprovoked invasion!

Brăila (7.5 km away from the alleged site of the drone explosion) is a city with a population of 155,000 inhabitants, making the Galați-Brăila concentration the largest urban concentration after the Bucharest capital area.

The Romanian authorities must respond firmly this time!

#74047

Anyone signed up yet

2/ A subchat called "Lonely Hearts 18+ (dating)" has appeared in the 'PMC Wagner' Telegram channel. According to the chat administrators, "Life is complicated. There are a lot of single sisters, girlfriends, etc here."

 

90kg? Nvm

4/ However, dating has not worked out so far. "Are there no men in the group???? No men at all????", "So I don't understand, where are the boys, do they even evaluate them?!))))))", "Men are shy now" – the ladies complain."

 

6/ One woman complains: "If there were children of bureaucrats along with our soldiers, believe me, everything would be there – honours, benefits, and payments!"

 

8/ Former Wagner fighters have also found it difficult to find new employment, as they appear to be blacklisted from state or defence jobs – and even from cooking food at Burger King. /endhttps://t.co/wuFJ1Kt6e4

 

 

 

 

#74049

Long/interesting article about Putin liking the smell of his own farts/believing his own propaganda/using his own product.

https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-victim-own-propaganda-ukraine-glasser-interview/32616268.html

RFE/RL: The first question, and pretty much most of the questions will be about the man in Moscow whom you studied and reported on for years. Are there still moments that he surprises you, or does something that you didn’t expect?

Susan Glasser: I would say that, because we were warned so explicitly in the advance to the run-up and the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, I can't say that it was a surprise. But it's still a shocking decision, especially because it was extremely risky. Some people previously saw Vladimir Putin as being an incrementalist, certainly aggressive, but careful within that. And you could say that the invasion of Ukraine was certainly not incremental, except perhaps by some crazy logic.

One of at least the short-term consequences of this invasion of Ukraine has actually been to increase the level of repression and eliminate the possibilities for opposition inside of the Russian system…

I think that Putin, in the big picture, has surprised us all. Let's not forget that 20 years ago, if we were having this conversation and we said, “Well, he will have become the longest-serving leader of Russia since Josef Stalin, that he will have invaded not one but two of his neighbors, that he will be forging a new alliance with China that will have a ‘no limits partnership’ as the definition of this alliance,” we would have been shocked. It was not in the frame of possibility. So, in a big-picture sense, I would say that Vladimir Putin has surprised us all, actually….

I think that he seems to have become perhaps more messianic, more wrapped up in his own vision of personalized power over the 20 years that he has been in power. That's not surprising -- that's happened in many dictatorships -- but it does seem that Putin views himself now as a sort of heir to the tsars.

RFE/RL: Is there a kind of a “I am the state” thinking behind that?

Glasser: Yes. The cult of the leader is something that he would have grown up with in the Soviet Union to a certain extent. He is clearly more in the mold of the early leaders of the Soviet Union -- the Lenins and Stalins -- than he is of the mold of collective leadership in the later days of the Soviet Union. I've always thought that he viewed himself as the sort of successor to the KGB leader who became one of the final leaders in the Soviet Union, Yury Andropov, and that he sees himself…

RFE/RL: Accomplishing what Andropov couldn’t?

Glasser: Exactly. That Andropov died too soon and was succeeded by [Mikhail] Gorbachev, who obviously is not a hero to Vladimir Putin.

RFE/RL: How much does Putin embody modern Russia? Has he molded the state into his image, or was it Russia that molded him according to a popular demand or something like popular sentiment of what Russia wanted to be?

Glasser: You know, it's very interesting, because I was based in Moscow in the first years of Putin's tenure as leader, the first four years, and I remember interviewing once one of the pollsters who worked for Putin -- Aleksandr Aslund -- when he first was elected Russian president. And Aslund said, “You know, the Yeltsin years, this idea of democracy in Russia, it was like taking a river and putting a dam in and eventually the river overflows and goes back to its natural course.”

And so he and those who helped to create Putin perceived Putin, in a way, as simply being a part of the inevitable restoration of the Russian river flowing in the direction that it would. And I think to him, the idea was that Putin could have been anyone, in effect; that Putin was simply the natural and logical manifestation of a return to a more authoritarian state.

#74050
Long/interesting article about Putin liking the smell of his own farts/believing his own propaganda/using his own product.
https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-victim-own-propaganda-ukraine-glasser-interview/32616268.html
RFE/RL: The first question, and pretty much most of the questions will be about the man in Moscow whom you studied and reported on for years. Are there still moments that he surprises you, or does something that you didn’t expect?

Susan Glasser: I would say that, because we were warned so explicitly in the advance to the run-up and the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, I can't say that it was a surprise. But it's still a shocking decision, especially because it was extremely risky. Some people previously saw Vladimir Putin as being an incrementalist, certainly aggressive, but careful within that. And you could say that the invasion of Ukraine was certainly not incremental, except perhaps by some crazy logic.
One of at least the short-term consequences of this invasion of Ukraine has actually been to increase the level of repression and eliminate the possibilities for opposition inside of the Russian system…
I think that Putin, in the big picture, has surprised us all. Let's not forget that 20 years ago, if we were having this conversation and we said, “Well, he will have become the longest-serving leader of Russia since Josef Stalin, that he will have invaded not one but two of his neighbors, that he will be forging a new alliance with China that will have a ‘no limits partnership’ as the definition of this alliance,” we would have been shocked. It was not in the frame of possibility. So, in a big-picture sense, I would say that Vladimir Putin has surprised us all, actually….
I think that he seems to have become perhaps more messianic, more wrapped up in his own vision of personalized power over the 20 years that he has been in power. That's not surprising -- that's happened in many dictatorships -- but it does seem that Putin views himself now as a sort of heir to the tsars.

RFE/RL: Is there a kind of a “I am the state” thinking behind that?

Glasser: Yes. The cult of the leader is something that he would have grown up with in the Soviet Union to a certain extent. He is clearly more in the mold of the early leaders of the Soviet Union -- the Lenins and Stalins -- than he is of the mold of collective leadership in the later days of the Soviet Union. I've always thought that he viewed himself as the sort of successor to the KGB leader who became one of the final leaders in the Soviet Union, Yury Andropov, and that he sees himself…

RFE/RL: Accomplishing what Andropov couldn’t?

Glasser: Exactly. That Andropov died too soon and was succeeded by [Mikhail] Gorbachev, who obviously is not a hero to Vladimir Putin.

RFE/RL: How much does Putin embody modern Russia? Has he molded the state into his image, or was it Russia that molded him according to a popular demand or something like popular sentiment of what Russia wanted to be?

Glasser: You know, it's very interesting, because I was based in Moscow in the first years of Putin's tenure as leader, the first four years, and I remember interviewing once one of the pollsters who worked for Putin -- Aleksandr Aslund -- when he first was elected Russian president. And Aslund said, “You know, the Yeltsin years, this idea of democracy in Russia, it was like taking a river and putting a dam in and eventually the river overflows and goes back to its natural course.”
And so he and those who helped to create Putin perceived Putin, in a way, as simply being a part of the inevitable restoration of the Russian river flowing in the direction that it would. And I think to him, the idea was that Putin could have been anyone, in effect; that Putin was simply the natural and logical manifestation of a return to a more authoritarian state.

TLDR version: Russia is an authoritarian piece of dick populated by pathetic thieves and slaves. Always has been. Always will be.

Wall it off and be done with it.

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