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#80751
4 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

They've hit Russia with Ukrainian made drones, not western supplied weapons. 

All of those drones were Ukranian made and the weapons that they carried were Ukranian made? That seems like a stretch but I guess that it is possible - maybe all the Western drones are used in Ukraine so the Ukranian ones can be purposed solely for hitting inside Russia.

 

And proving myself wrong:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/us/politics/ukraines-war-weapons-industry-russia.html

 

Ukraine’s Arms Industry Is Growing, but Is It Growing Fast Enough?

Kyiv is aiming to build its own weapons to bring the fight to Russia. But it will take time Ukraine might not have.

 

Reporting from Kyiv, Ukraine
April 2, 2024
 

Ukraine’s military had only one Bohdana artillery cannon in its arsenal when Russia invaded the country two years ago. Yet that single weapon, built in Ukraine in 2018 and able to shoot NATO-caliber rounds, proved so effective in the earliest days of the war that it was trucked to battlefields across the country, from the northeastern city of Kharkiv to the southwestern coast along the Black Sea and points in between.

Now, Ukraine’s arms industry is building eight of the self-propelled Bohdana artillery systems each month, and although officials will not say how many they’ve made in total, the increased output signals a potential boom in the country’s domestic weapons production.

The ramp-up comes at a pivotal moment. Russia’s war machine is already quadrupling weapons production in round-the-clock operations. Ukraine’s forces are losing territory in some key areas, including the strategic eastern town of Avdiivka, from which they withdrew in February. A U.S. aid package is still hung up in Congress. And while European defense firms are gingerly opening operations in Ukraine, major American weapons producers have yet to commit to setting up shop in the middle of a war.

It is widely agreed that Ukraine needs to rebuild its domestic defense industry so that its military will not have to rely for years to come on the West, which has at times hesitated to send sophisticated weapons systems — including air defenses, tanks and long-range missiles. Whether that can be done in time to alter the trajectory of a war that would be all the more tenuous without more U.S. military aid remains to be seen.

But Ukraine’s military engineers have already shown surprising skill in jury-rigging older weapons systems with more modern firepower. And over the last year alone, Ukraine’s defense companies have built three times as many armored vehicles as they were making before the war and have quadrupled production of anti-tank missiles, according to Ukrainian government documents reviewed by The New York Times.

Funding for research and development is forecast to increase by eight times this year — to $1.3 billion from $162 million — according to an analysis of Ukraine’s military budget through 2030 by Janes, a defense intelligence firm. Military procurement jumped to a projected 20-year high of nearly $10 billion in 2023, compared with a prewar figure of about $1 billion a year.
 

“We say that death to the enemy starts with us,” Alexander Kamyshin, Ukraine’s Strategic Industries minister, said in an interview last month in his office in a nondescript brick building in Kyiv tucked away among restaurants and apartment blocks.

“It’s about showing that we don’t sit and wait until you come help us,” Mr. Kamyshin said. “It’s about trying to make things ourselves.”

Some weapons are proving harder to produce in Ukraine than others. They include 155-millimeter artillery shells, which are in dire need on the battlefield but depend on imported raw materials and licensing rights from Western manufacturers or governments. Mr. Kamyshin said domestic production of 155-millimeter shells was “on the way,” but would not say when.

Once a main supplier of the Soviet Union, Ukraine’s defense industry shrank over three decades of budget cuts after the country declared independence in 1991. The government in Kyiv now plans to spend about $6 billion this year on weapons made in Ukraine, including one million drones, but, Mr. Kamyshin said, “we can produce more than we’ve got funds available.”

The long period of decline may be hard to overcome. To restart production of the 2S22 Bohdana artillery cannon, for example, officials had to track down the weapon’s original designers and engineers, some of whom had been assigned to menial military tasks across Ukraine.

By June 2022, Ukrainian forces were using the Bohdana’s 30-mile range to target and destroy Russian air defenses in the successful battle for Snake Island in the Black Sea.

“It was a very big surprise for the Russians,” said Maj. Myroslav Hai, a Ukrainian Army officer who helped liberate the island. “They couldn’t understand how somebody could use artillery for this distance.”
 

In Europe, political leaders who worry about eroding American support and business executives who see new market opportunities are promoting military production ventures in Ukraine, even if it may be several years before any of those weapons or materiel reach the battlefield.
 

The German arms giant Rheinmetall and the Turkish drone-maker Baykar are in the process of building manufacturing plants in Ukraine. France’s defense minister said in March that three French companies that produce drones and land warfare equipment were nearing similar agreements. Last month, Germany and France announced a joint venture through the defense conglomerate KNDS to build parts for tanks and howitzers in Ukraine and, eventually, whole weapons systems.

Experts said Ukraine’s military has positioned air defense systems around some of its most critical weapons factories. It’s likely that foreign-backed plants will largely be built in the country’s west, far from the front lines but also protected by air defenses.

Christian Seear, the Ukraine operations director for the Britain-based military contractor BAE Systems, said even the nascent moves by foreign producers send “a critical message — that you can go into Ukraine and set things up.”

While BAE Systems looks to manufacture weapons in Ukraine in the future, Mr. Seear said, the company is currently focused on a “fix it forward” approach, to repair battle-damaged weapons at factories in Ukraine to get them back to the front lines faster. Many of the weapons in Ukraine’s ground war — including M777 and Archer howitzers, Bradley and CV90 combat vehicles and Challenger 2 tanks — are manufactured by BAE Systems.

“We want to keep those things fighting, and it’s becoming quite clear that you can’t keep maintaining those assets in neighboring countries,” Mr. Seear said. “It’s not acceptable for a long-term war of attrition to have hundreds of high quality, reliable howitzers having to travel hundreds of miles.”

To date, Ukrainian and U.S. officials said, no major American weapons manufacturer has announced plans to open production lines in Ukraine. However, some senior executives have visited Kyiv in recent weeks to meet with Mr. Kamyshin and other officials, and the Biden administration hosted meetings in December to bring together Ukrainian leaders and U.S. military contractors.
 

Helping Ukraine rebuild its defense industry has become even more vital as Republicans in Congress have blocked $60 billion in military and financial aid to Ukraine. (However, Speaker Mike Johnson, Republican of Louisiana, recently signaled that he is looking for politically palatable ways to bring the aid package to a vote.)

But a web of bureaucracy in Kyiv threatens to slow at least some investors as they seek to push proposals through three ministries, Defense, Digital Transformation and Mr. Kamyshin’s Strategic Industries.

“We’re trying to get a sense of how this all fit together, and how they work together,” said William B. Taylor, a former ambassador to Kyiv who is leading an effort by the U.S. Institute of Peace to help link up American and Ukrainian defense firms.

“American firms have got a lot of opportunities to invest in other places around the world,” Mr. Taylor said. “This is one where U.S. national interests are at stake, so it’s why we would take an extra step to help make these connections.”

Since 155-millimeter caliber artillery rounds are desperately needed, Mr. Taylor suggested that an initial joint venture between Ukrainian and American firms could focus on ramping up their production.

European producers are already venturing into that market.

“If the Europeans will be involved in its development in the volumes they promise, I think we will solve the problem of ‘shell hunger’ over time,” Oleksandr Syrskyi, Ukraine’s armed forces commander, told Ukraine state media in an interview published on Friday.
 

Although Ukraine’s manufacturers are prohibited from exporting weapons until the war is over, Mr. Kamyshin sounds eager to compete with foreign arms producers.

A forceful speaker with a goatee and a topknot hair style traditionally worn by Ukrainian Cossacks, Mr. Kamyshin is one of what Mr. Taylor described as a new generation of leaders in Ukraine — at age 39, a young gun who has ascended rapidly through the government ranks.

After his appointment as minister, in March 2023, Mr. Kamyshin visited almost every weapons factory in Ukraine and said he found an industry badly in need of an overhaul. Workers were laboring in damaged factories in some places; in others, rockets were being built by hand.

Though he said production is moving more smoothly now, he still receives daily updates on critical assembly lines to rapidly identify breakdowns and get them fixed quickly.

“We are moving things faster and cheaper, and they work,” Mr. Kamyshin said in an interview that was as much a sales pitch for domestically built weapons as it was a discussion of foreign investments.

“We will join you and NATO one day,” he said confidently. “So if you procure from us, you’re building up abilities, and that will become part of the joint capabilities one day. So why not invest in your joint capabilities?”

 

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#80752
3 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
An US colonel of the Special Forces discovered a trespasser with a telescopic camera on his property. After an altercation, the elite US soldier was forced to kill the intruder. It turned out that the intruder is a Russian national of Chechen ethnicity and that he was illegally…— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

Clearly they are not sending their best and brightest 

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Putin's palace was attacked?The governor of the Krasnodar region reported that the drone's debris “damaged an unfinished building” in the village of Krinitsa. Another drone flew into the farm Dzhankhot, located very close to Putin's palace. The target of the drones could be…

 

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#80757
6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It’s got to be weird planning stuff like that - Ukraine has been methodically whittling their air defenses down, and stuff has been moved from Crimea into Russia proper,  both to take it out of range, but also stop the Ukrainians from hitting Russian infrastructure.  There’s no way the Russians are able to rapidly replace what’s been lost, unless they rob Peter to pay Paul, so there’s gotta be some gaps in their coverage.

We have F-16s now that do the Wild Weasel job, and we have a shitload of anti-radar missiles that we’ve been giving Ukraine that can be mounted in F-16s..so something will have to give.

For reference, this was a more recent Wild Weasel and I’m going to show my kid because we have to do a scale model of this over the summer.

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Good shit

 

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#80758
7 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Clearly they are not sending their best and brightest 

Are we sure about that?

#80759
11 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
An US colonel of the Special Forces discovered a trespasser with a telescopic camera on his property. After an altercation, the elite US soldier was forced to kill the intruder. It turned out that the intruder is a Russian national of Chechen ethnicity and that he was illegally…— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

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...was forced happy to kill the intruder.

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#80761
❗️ AFU Commander-in-Chief Syrskyy said that he had given permission for French military instructors to work in training centers in Ukraine:"I cordially welcome France's initiative to send instructors to Ukraine to train Ukrainian servicemen".
GUR unit KRAKEN showed today's work near Chasiv Yar. Several pieces of Russian equipment were destroyed or damaged during a Russian mechanized charge. Among them a T-72B3, a BMD and a T-90M.
#80762
According Russian sources, an Ukrainian UAV made it all the way to Orsk, Orenburg Region, Russia, making it with almost 1,500 km (920 miles) a new record. At the moment it is unconfirmed what has been hit or how severe the damage is.It is rumored that that long-range radar site…— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)

 

Eastern Ukraine, a Ukrainian Air Force MiG-29 Fulcrum fires off a pair of AGM-88 HARMs at a Russian radar.

 

#80763
A grain terminal in Azov, Russia, is burning. It is unclear what the cause is.The grain terminal in Azov is one of the ports where stolen Ukrainian grain is shipped worldwide wide. Source of videos: Telegram / Censor_net— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)
Strikes and explosions reported from Russian-occupied Luhansk. Russian air defense was active but failed. Source: Telegram / Obstanovkalnr— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar)
#80764
Reportedly ATACMS launches towards Luhansk. Which was struck earlier tonight.

 

Alleged first footage coming out of Luhansk airport which was struck by ATACMS missiles an hour ago.

 

#80766

I’m assuming some fuel tanks, or some aircraft.

Russian-occupied Luhansk.Good god, this is a massive hit now.

 

#80767
On 5/27/2024 at 5:01 AM, Schulz2.0 said:
Videos of HIMARS strikes on a reported Russian Zhitel EW system and 1L219 Zoopark-1 counter-battery radar.https://t.co/WRnztRCqBhhttps://t.co/7wwHFhsCWq

Can't be. I have it on good authority that HIMARS doesn't work anymore due to superior Russian technology. 

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#80768
BREAKING:Belgium announces it will donate 30 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine.It will bring the total number of F-16s that Ukraine will get from 55 to 85.The other countries sending F-16s are Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands.🇧🇪🇺🇦

 

BREAKING:Poland will today sign a contract with the U.S. to buy several hundred JASSM Extended Range (1000 km) cruise missiles for a price of USD 735 million.🇺🇸🇵🇱

 

#80769
The Alabuga factory in Russia plans to produce 6000 Shahed-type drones per year. At the end of April this year, the factory was ahead of its production schedule, having already supplied 4,500. Technicians are recruited in Africa, mostly women in Uganda. Over a thousand women have…
#80771
4 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
BREAKING:Belgium announces it will donate 30 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine.It will bring the total number of F-16s that Ukraine will get from 55 to 85.The other countries sending F-16s are Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands.🇧🇪🇺🇦

 

BREAKING:Poland will today sign a contract with the U.S. to buy several hundred JASSM Extended Range (1000 km) cruise missiles for a price of USD 735 million.🇺🇸🇵🇱

 

Interesting that the JASSM picture they used was one being launched from an F16...

#80772
On 5/26/2024 at 3:16 AM, Schulz2.0 said:
As stated: “Installation of anti-drone nets over critical infrastructure facilities in Moscow, Russia”

 

They will be putting that infrastructure inside their local Top Golf soon.

 

 

On 5/26/2024 at 1:04 PM, Schulz2.0 said:
8-y-old Mykhailo’s dad has been missing since 2 Russian glide bombs struck a hardware store in Kharkiv yesterdayA severely burnt body was found today, and his dad has no other close relatives in the area, Mykhailo had to show up today to give a DNA sample for identification🇺🇦

 

The death toll of the Russian glide bomb strike on a “Home Depot-style” hardware store in Kharkiv has increased to 14 people. Another 7 are missing.This CCTV footage shows the moment of the explosion Kharkiv desperately needs 2 air defense batteries

 

 

Two observations:

1. This is terrorism

2. How could they have destroyed all those toilets?

 

Edited by TexasEd

#80773
The Czech Republic has raised more than €1.6 billion to buy artillery ammunition for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Prime Minister Shmyhal said after a meeting with his Czech counterpart Fiala. "It is important for us that the ammunition is delivered on time, systematically and…

 

Ukraine and Portugal signed a security agreement. This year Ukraine will receive at least €126 million in military aid, Zelenskyi said during a briefing with Portuguese Prime Minister Luis Montenegro.

 

#80774
Ukraine will receive its first F-16 fighter jets very soon, while a new front in the north is expected."Their objective is to open a new front in the north to start using all their manpower, firing power, against us," Defense Minister Umerov said.https://t.co/1WEzRdNWzV
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Ukraine will receive its first F-16 fighter jets very soon, while a new front in the north is expected.

 

 

Ukraine Expects to Fly F-16s in Combat This Winter
Kyiv’s timeline is far tighter than the Pentagon’s more conservative estimate

By Gordon Lubold and Nancy A. Youssef

Updated Sept. 10, 2023

 

WASHINGTON—Kyiv’s military leaders say they could have Ukrainian pilots flying F-16s in combat as early as this winter, a more optimistic timeline than previous estimates, and one that could give Ukrainian forces a significant new capability for next year’s fight.

Based on initial assessments, Ukrainian officials now believe that with American training expected to begin this month or next, a handful of Ukrainian fighter pilots could be ready to go as early as February, Ukrainian and U.S. officials said. The U.S. could train experienced, English-proficient Ukrainian pilots in as little as five months, a group of likely fewer than 10 pilots for now, according to Ukrainian assessment.

 

#80776
10 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:
BREAKING:Belgium announces it will donate 30 F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine.It will bring the total number of F-16s that Ukraine will get from 55 to 85.The other countries sending F-16s are Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands.🇧🇪🇺🇦

 

BREAKING:Poland will today sign a contract with the U.S. to buy several hundred JASSM Extended Range (1000 km) cruise missiles for a price of USD 735 million.🇺🇸🇵🇱

 

Wish shit like this got more publicity. Too many people fail to remember that the US does the whole military industrial complex thing pretty well. A huge amount of spending in Ukraine comes out of our advertising budget. See how good our old shit works? Imagine what the new stuff can do!

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#80777
The Netherlands is leading a new initiative to supply Ukraine with another PATRIOT SAM system.Under the Dutch proposal, key PATRIOT system components would come from various countries, with the Netherlands contributing core components and training.

 

"The West must explicitly state that its goal is a decisive Ukrainian victory and Russian defeat, and it must commit to supplying Kyiv with direct military aid and to supporting the country’s burgeoning defense industry." https://t.co/Qx7rr31j8q

 

#80778
The Russian Defence Ministry has admitted that missing Ukrainian journalist Viktoriya Roshchyna is in Russian captivityShe is being held in one of the Federal Penitentiary Service's facilities and nothing has been known about her for almost 9 months.Information about this…

 

#80779
36 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
The Russian Defence Ministry has admitted that missing Ukrainian journalist Viktoriya Roshchyna is in Russian captivityShe is being held in one of the Federal Penitentiary Service's facilities and nothing has been known about her for almost 9 months.Information about this…

 

I'm sure that Amnesty International will be along right soon.....to explain how this is no big deal, and really, she had it coming for daring to be a "journalist" on sovereign territory of Russia, which is what any inch of Ukraine that Russia simply decides to claim magically becomes.  Really, her fate is Ukraine's fault, for violently resisting Russia asserting its god-given rights.  Duh.  But Julian Assange...well....that's different.  He's a hero, victimized by the imperialists!

AI has revealed itself to be a pretty giant piece of shit.  Damned shame, as its PURPORTED mission is really important.

#80782
2/2 I was unable to ID this vehicle with certainty. Might be an RLM-KU or KU-RLK. I also want to underline an important caveat again: this @planet HR image was taken 17 days prior to the strike. However, I haven't noticed many changes in the tracks in the field in the meantime.

 

#80783

Nothing To See Here GIF by Giphy QA
 

Russia plans to change its flat-rate tax for the first time in over 20 years. Until now, it has been 13 per cent for everyone, with a few exceptions. Now the ministry of finance is proposing that it should be between 13 and 22 per centThe war won’t finance itself after all🤷‍♀️

 

#80784
On 5/28/2024 at 8:02 AM, TexasEd said:

Two observations:

1. This is terrorism

2. How could they have destroyed all those toilets?

You don't need bombs or missiles to destroy toilets, sir. Just a combo meal from Taco Bell and a couple hours of patience.

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#80786
😭 I'm in tears... This may be Ukraine's first official F-16 mission... Ukrainian fighter pilots escorted President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Belgium in their F-16s! The image was taken through a window on Zelenskyy's plane.

 

Badass

#80787
6 minutes ago, Smax said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/29/europe/ukraine-war-us-tanks-intl/index.html

Abraham's not doing so hot without without proper support

As for that drone factory in Africa, send in a spec ops team ..

Thanks, CNN, for the insightful newsflash: decades-old MBTs, designed to destroy other MBTs in multi-domain conflicts, aren't the best at drone warfare.

 

Next, at 10: 80yr-old grandmother struggles to use chatGPT!!!

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#80789
3 minutes ago, morehornsepower said:

Thanks, CNN, for the insightful newsflash: decades-old MBTs, designed to destroy other MBTs in multi-domain conflicts, aren't the best at drone warfare.

We gave them the basic M1 Abrams that generally lacks upgrades.

#80790
18 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:
😭 I'm in tears... This may be Ukraine's first official F-16 mission... Ukrainian fighter pilots escorted President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Belgium in their F-16s! The image was taken through a window on Zelenskyy's plane.

 

Soon

#80791

Can Ukraine win this war without troops from outside the country? Right now I don't know how they breakthrough with the numerical superiority of Russia, though of course I want to be wrong. Who knows what the future has in store but I think right now the front is going to remain static.

#80792
3 minutes ago, qwertyu1234 said:

Can Ukraine win this war without troops from outside the country? Right now I don't know how they breakthrough with the numerical superiority of Russia, though of course I want to be wrong. Who knows what the future has in store but I think right now the front is going to remain static.

As long as they are continuously supported with weapons and ammo they will win.

#80793
3 minutes ago, qwertyu1234 said:

Can Ukraine win this war without troops from outside the country? Right now I don't know how they breakthrough with the numerical superiority of Russia, though of course I want to be wrong. Who knows what the future has in store but I think right now the front is going to remain static.

Ukraine was starting to lose ground as munitions were running low. Now, I don't think it will lose ground but I'm not sure it can gain ground either. It will be interesting to see if F16s change things, but I would guess that things will remain static in the short-run. But, Ukraine has enough munitions now for an intense year of fighting and Russia isn't particularly stable. I think that means that both sides have all their chips on the table for the next 12 months.

#80794
15 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

As long as they are continuously supported with weapons and ammo they will win.

I don't know man...

 

#80795
25 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Ukraine was starting to lose ground as munitions were running low. Now, I don't think it will lose ground but I'm not sure it can gain ground either. It will be interesting to see if F16s change things, but I would guess that things will remain static in the short-run. But, Ukraine has enough munitions now for an intense year of fighting and Russia isn't particularly stable. I think that means that both sides have all their chips on the table for the next 12 months.

Michael Kofman, who has been referenced many times on the thread and writes for The NY Times and War on the Rocks, predicts a 2024 stalemate with Ukraine attempting to build up for an offensive no earlier than spring 2025.

#80796
28 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Michael Kofman, who has been referenced many times on the thread and writes for The NY Times and War on the Rocks, predicts a 2024 stalemate with Ukraine attempting to build up for an offensive no earlier than spring 2025.

 

Militarily MK's timeline makes sense, but I have a hard time seeing the US providing weapons in 2025.

#80797
Intense footage of GRU international legion fighters within the Ukrainian Armed Forces, firing RPG-7 against Russian invaders and fending off incoming attacks. Looks like Kreminna forest.

 

A destroyed Russian BUK-M1 air defense system, reportedly south of occupied Melitopol, Zaporizhzia region.
#80798
2 hours ago, morehornsepower said:

Next, at 10: 80yr-old grandmother struggles to use chatGPT!!!

It ain’t easy, but shes going to make a bunch of AI-generated sequels to the Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon Beach Party movies.

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#80799
Video of an FPV strike on a Russian soldier on a jet ski. https://t.co/b7XtFliXtohttps://t.co/wkXTQHmNNU

 

"To keep Ukraine’s artillery crews supplied, the Pentagon set a production target last year of 100,000 shells per month by the end of 2025. Factories in Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, Pa., together make about 36,000 shells per month. The new General Dynamics facility in Mesquite,…
#80800
1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

It ain’t easy, but shes going to make a bunch of AI-generated sequels to the Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon Beach Party movies.

I wasn't a big fan of Beach Blanket Bingo but it always seemed like those movies had a lot of potential. They needed more of The Summer of 69/Endless Summer vibe and I would still watch them. So, what I am saying is that a good beach movie could do fine in the box office today.

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