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#84251
10 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Some not so great news

⚡️Russia moves 90% of military planes beyond ATACMS range, US official claims. Russia has responded to Ukraine's acquisition of ATACMS by moving most of its aircraft beyond the missiles' range, the unnamed official told the WSJ.https://t.co/5YcbTUUT51

 

🤔 Belarus is bringing a lot of equipment to the border with Ukraine.Tactical sign "B”

This seems like a "When one door closes another door opens" kinda deal for ATACMS. 

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#84252

The craziest part about the Kursk offensive is that with the Ukrainians over the border, there is now little to limit their special operations forces from taking Russian-marked equipment and heading east out into the deep forests SE of Moscow and setting up a drone launch point in the middle of nowhere and attack other points deep in Russia proper. Take a few Russian ZIL131s and pack them up with the components for 6 large drones and take off. Once the mission is done, leave and head back to home. If the Russians find it, then go a different region next time. If not, do it again...

Yes, you are putting your spec ops guys at risk with deep behind the lines missions, but it would be worth it just to hit other targets deep into Russia to further instill the idea that no one is safe...

 

#84253
10 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

The craziest part about the Kursk offensive is that with the Ukrainians over the border, there is now little to limit their special operations forces from taking Russian-marked equipment and heading east out into the deep forests SE of Moscow and setting up a drone launch point in the middle of nowhere and attack other points deep in Russia proper. Take a few Russian ZIL131s and pack them up with the components for 6 large drones and take off. Once the mission is done, leave and head back to home. If the Russians find it, then go a different region next time. If not, do it again...

Yes, you are putting your spec ops guys at risk with deep behind the lines missions, but it would be worth it just to hit other targets deep into Russia to further instill the idea that no one is safe...

 

One of the interesting reveals in the past few weeks was how a Ukrainian special ops group was able to infiltrate into Kursk, and quite literally pull  a Dirty Dozen war game move, switched arm bands and captured an area.  The thought that they couldn't figure a way around the existing lines to pull something like this off isn't out of the question.  The Russians appear to have very little in the way of internal security to deal with this.  

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#84254

It's really nice of the Russian people (or so it would seem) to provide open source Intel for everyone.

On the Kerch bridge, Russians have placed a Pantsir-S1 air defense complex. Worried as they are.

 

#84255
57 minutes ago, Parliament said:

It’s a war crime but so what.  Ukraine needs to go after Russia’s strategic vodka cabbage reserve.  Starve them out.

FIFY

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#84256
9 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:
🇫🇷 Pavel Durov said that he was lured to France by President Macron.It turns out that the French president invited Durov to dine together. Pavel told about this during interrogation by the police, the French newspaper Le Canard Chainé claims.But instead of lunch, Durov was…

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#84258

According to sources, the restrictions were imposed at request of China.

If true, seems very significant. https://united24media.com/latest-news/uae-banks-block-russian-transactions-for-chinese-electronics-russian-media-reports-1971

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Banks in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have been rejecting transactions from Russian companies seeking electronic components and consumer electronics from China since early August, according to pro-Kremlin outlet Kommersant on August 28.

The reported reason for this is the risk of secondary sanctions, the outlet claimed.

Kommersant's sources, who remain unnamed, indicate that Russian firms had been using UAE-based entities to transfer funds to China for goods to be shipped directly to Russia. Now, transactions for products that do not pass through the Gulf country are being blocked, the outlet stated.

According to these sources, the restrictions were imposed at the initiative of China.

Last week, the US introduced a new set of sanctions targeting Chinese and Russian companies due to their support for Moscow's aggression. In response, Chinese institutions have begun reducing their business dealings with Russia to avoid or mitigate the impact of these trade restrictions.

Notably, several major Chinese banks have started blocking transactions for electronics due to concerns over secondary sanctions. Most recently, in June, the Russian branch of the Chinese state-run Bank of China ceased accepting payments from Russian banks.

Western countries have also reportedly increased pressure on the UAE to prevent Russian entities from circumventing sanctions. The UAE is believed to be a key conduit for sanctioned dual-use goods, such as electronics, being sent to Russia.

Throughout Russia's full-scale war, the UAE has maintained economic and cultural ties with Russia but has also forged new trade agreements with Ukraine.

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#84260

Ukraine Shoots Down Russian Su-25 Jet in MANPADS Strike

Ukrainian forces shot down and destroyed a Russian Su-25 ground attack aircraft in the eastern Donetsk region, Kyiv's military said on Wednesday.

"Ukrainian warriors from the 28th Mechanized Brigade shot down a Russian Su-25 plane in the Kramatorsk direction. Bravo!" Ukraine's defense ministry said in a statement posted to social media.

Newsweek contacted the Russian defense ministry by email for comment.

The Context

Russia's Air Force has suffered extensive losses since the start of Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

What We Know

The country's Khortytsia group of forces operating in Donetsk said anti-aircraft units of the 28th Separate Mechanized Brigade shot down the jet using a Man-Portable Air-Defense System (MANPADS).

The jet "was trying to fire at the positions of units of the Defense Forces," it said in a statement on Telegram.

"Another Russian Su-25 burns out in the steppes of the Ukrainian Donbas," the Khortytsia group of forces said, referring to an area that comprises Ukraine's occupied Donetsk and Luhansk regions. "As of today, Russian assault aviation has one less aircraft. Its wreckage now decorates the Donetsk landscape."

The 28th Separate Mechanized Brigade shared footage on Telegram that purportedly shows the moment the Su-25 was shot down in Donetsk. "The fate of the crew is still unknown," it said.

Dutch open-source intelligence defense analysis website Oryx has visually confirmed that 112 Russian aircraft have been destroyed and 15 damaged since the start of the full-scale war in Ukraine.

Oryx has also visually confirmed that 94 Ukrainian aircraft have been destroyed since the beginning of the war, with three damaged and one captured.

The General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces said in an update on Wednesday that Moscow had lost 368 aircraft since Russia launched its full-scale invasion.

Newsweek couldn't independently verify Kyiv's figures.

What's Next?

The Russian Su-25 jet was downed in the Donbas area, which faces constant shelling. The Kremlin has been pushing for the total capture of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions since Russia's initial invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014, and it continues to make gains in these areas.

Russia is focusing much of its manpower on seizing the city of Pokrovsk, a key logistical hub for Ukrainian forces in the area.

#84261
1 hour ago, bolverk said:

Ukraine Shoots Down Russian Su-25 Jet in MANPADS Strike

Ukrainian forces shot down and destroyed a Russian Su-25 ground attack aircraft in the eastern Donetsk region, Kyiv's military said on Wednesday.

"Ukrainian warriors from the 28th Mechanized Brigade shot down a Russian Su-25 plane in the Kramatorsk direction. Bravo!" Ukraine's defense ministry said in a statement posted to social media.

Newsweek contacted the Russian defense ministry by email for comment.

The Context

Russia's Air Force has suffered extensive losses since the start of Putin's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

What We Know

The country's Khortytsia group of forces operating in Donetsk said anti-aircraft units of the 28th Separate Mechanized Brigade shot down the jet using a Man-Portable Air-Defense System (MANPADS).

The jet "was trying to fire at the positions of units of the Defense Forces," it said in a statement on Telegram.

"Another Russian Su-25 burns out in the steppes of the Ukrainian Donbas," the Khortytsia group of forces said, referring to an area that comprises Ukraine's occupied Donetsk and Luhansk regions. "As of today, Russian assault aviation has one less aircraft. Its wreckage now decorates the Donetsk landscape."

The 28th Separate Mechanized Brigade shared footage on Telegram that purportedly shows the moment the Su-25 was shot down in Donetsk. "The fate of the crew is still unknown," it said.

Dutch open-source intelligence defense analysis website Oryx has visually confirmed that 112 Russian aircraft have been destroyed and 15 damaged since the start of the full-scale war in Ukraine.

Oryx has also visually confirmed that 94 Ukrainian aircraft have been destroyed since the beginning of the war, with three damaged and one captured.

The General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces said in an update on Wednesday that Moscow had lost 368 aircraft since Russia launched its full-scale invasion.

Newsweek couldn't independently verify Kyiv's figures.

What's Next?

The Russian Su-25 jet was downed in the Donbas area, which faces constant shelling. The Kremlin has been pushing for the total capture of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions since Russia's initial invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014, and it continues to make gains in these areas.

Russia is focusing much of its manpower on seizing the city of Pokrovsk, a key logistical hub for Ukrainian forces in the area.

That chute seemed to open very low to the ground, if the pilot made it, I don't think he will be on Dancing with the Stars anytime soon.  

#84262
12 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

That chute seemed to open very low to the ground, if the pilot made it, I don't think he will be on Dancing with the Stars anytime soon.  

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#84264

https://www.threads.net/@nickmelnick.osint/post/C_Nys5QoKvV?xmt=AQGzwn_kBMnwRwTJLMpBdw3nxoUHDd6_RVwuQtW7qX0GAA

️A video compilation of 115 Russian reconnaissance drones being shot down by FPV.
🤔This initiative is fully funded by donations from ordinary Ukrainians and concerned people around the world. Surface-to-air missiles are extremely expensive. For example, the cost of a MIM-104 Patriot missile is estimated to be several million.
However, the cost of such an FPV interceptor drone does not exceed $2,000. The Russian drones in this video are worth tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars each.

 

https://www.threads.net/@ghostoflviv_/post/C_NqhMwpKx2?xmt=AQGzwn_kBMnwRwTJLMpBdw3nxoUHDd6_RVwuQtW7qX0GAA

Intial reports that the FSB Chief of Counter-Terrorism, Maxim Eremin, has died.
Reportedly, he choked on his food and passed away.

#84265

https://www.threads.net/@thestarsandstripes/post/C_N8qvXRnl5?xmt=AQGzwn_kBMnwRwTJLMpBdw3nxoUHDd6_RVwuQtW7qX0GAA

A Pennsylvania ammunition plant that makes a key artillery shell in Ukraine’s fight against Russia has managed to boost production by 50% to meet surging demand, with more capacity set to come on line.

 

^Good News

 

https://www.threads.net/@ghostoflviv_/post/C_NsFutpIFb?xmt=AQGzwn_kBMnwRwTJLMpBdw3nxoUHDd6_RVwuQtW7qX0GAA

Russia continues to rapidly advance in eastern Ukraine, likely due to a total collapse of the frontlines in Pokrovsk.
Russia appears to be seizing significant positions in a matter of hours at a time, again this would reinforce the impression that Ukrainian lines have reached a total collapse.

 

^Bad news

#84266

Investors waiting for a party today on NVDA's earnings might wonder why the segment is flat today.  Part of the AI sector's confidence was shattered this morning after activist short-seller Hindenburg Research released a wild report this morning on U.S. and Taiwanese computer supplier firm Supermicro.

https://hindenburgresearch.com/smci/

In their report, Hindenburg Research alleges a history of accounting scandals at SMCI, a prior guilty plea of exporting banned components to Iran, and skirting sanctions through distribution partners to Russia, via three Turkish shell companies, among a Chinese state-run firm. Since the start of the Russia-Ukraine war, they estimate one components importer has received $46.3M worth of computer components from Supermicro.

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  • Besides questions around related parties and proprietary product offerings, in 2006, Super Micro pleaded guilty to a felony count of exporting banned components to Iran. The CEO said the company was in its infancy and had learned from its mistakes.
  • When Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, the U.S. government imposed stringent restrictions and bans on exports to Russia of high-performance computers and components.
  • Super Micro disclosed that some of its products were subject to export bans and said it was halting all sales and had “not recorded revenue” from Russia since the day before the war started.
  • Exports of Super Micro’s high-tech components to Russia have spiked ~3x since the invasion of Ukraine, apparently violating U.S. export bans, according to our review of more than 45,000 import/export transactions.
  • At least 46 companies that handled Super Micro products to Russia since the invasion are now under OFAC sanctions or on U.S. government watchlists.
  • Almost two-thirds of Super Micro’s exports to Russia since the invasion correspond to “high priority” components that the Russian military may be diverting to the battlefield, per U.S. government warnings.
  • One of the biggest importers of Super Micro products in Russia is a supplier to one of Russia’s largest “supercomputers” at a once-secret, now-sanctioned research center. That importer, Niagara Computers, has received at least $46.3 million worth of Super Micro products since the start of the Russia-Ukraine war, per trade data.
  • The sales were initially made through a distributor in California, but were later made through 3 newly-formed Turkish shell companies, including one that was eventually sanctioned for smuggling restricted items to Russia.
  • Almost $30 million worth of Super Micro components have also been shipped to Russia’s largest importer of dual-use civilian-military chips via a newly created Hong Kong shell entity. That Russian importer is now under OFAC sanctions.
  • Since 2016, Super Micro has had a joint venture with a Chinese state-run company called Fiberhome, which is involved in a campaign of “human rights violations and abuses,” high-tech surveillance, and repression of ethnic communities in western China, per the U.S. government.
  • Super Micro has sold ~$196 million of sophisticated computer components to the joint venture since Fiberhome was watchlisted by the U.S. government in 2020. Super Micro justifies the sales by saying the JV entity itself wasn’t watchlisted, even though its partner was.


Supermicro delayed their annual filings this morning and have a 10:1 stock split scheduled for October 1.

#84267

As a bit of a student of combat, I openly confess my absolute intrique with what's happening over the skies of Ukraine/Russia. There really is a guerilla air tacts aspect to this fight and the militarized "consumer" drones is absolutely a change that I suspected was coming, but not to this extent, these levels of success and this soon. The Russia v Ukraine conflict while already important historically for a lot of reason us putting several chapters in tactical guerrilla aviation warfare books. Intriguing and great for them against the would be oppressor that is Russia.

#84268
3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

As a bit of a student of combat, I openly confess my absolute intrique with what's happening over the skies of Ukraine/Russia. There really is a guerilla air tacts aspect to this fight and the militarized "consumer" drones is absolutely a change that I suspected was coming, but not to this extent, these levels of success and this soon. The Russia v Ukraine conflict while already important historically for a lot of reason us putting several chapters in tactical guerrilla aviation warfare books. Intriguing and great for them against the would be oppressor that is Russia.

It is essentially the history of air combat relived, but in smaller scale with a more compressed timeline.

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#84269
10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Belarus gave some of their best equipment to the Russians and it's probably already been used for target practice by the Ukrainians.

If Belarusians start dying in Ukraine, that could start some shit in Belarus - it's not the biggest of countries.  With that said, Lukashenko is going to be careful - he's got a small military, and he needs it to stay in power.

Agree.   His main concern is having his military point their guns at their citizens, not at a faux enemy.  

There were reports of former Wagner Mercenaries being sent to the border and Lukashenko should worry that they would follow guidance from Mother Russia and not him.  If they started a shooting contest or minor incursion on the border then if I was Ukraine I would assume taking Belarus would be on the table and it shouldn't be too hard.  Russia ain't got anything to help them with as it is all tied up.

#84270
25 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

It is essentially the history of air combat relived, but in smaller scale with a more compressed timeline.

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Good point and it's a bonus Ukraine didn't try drones held afloat by hydrogen ballons.

#84271
1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Good point and it's a bonus Ukraine didn't try drones held afloat by hydrogen ballons.

You don't know that.  Besides, they may still if it would kill more Russians. 

#84272
1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Good point and it's a bonus Ukraine didn't try drones held afloat by hydrogen ballons.

Wonder what that would look like on the larger radars - I'm assuming the radar waves might pass through the balloons?

#84273
3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Wonder what that would look like on the larger radars - I'm assuming the radar waves might pass through the balloons?

Well, I actually thought about it after Chad's post. 

Using a lot, hundreds, of big mylar balloons, with grenades attached, and a small drone type of fan to drive it generally in a direction along with prevailing wind.. it could cause the Russia air defense to react. Read the reactions and rope a dope with some drones from the flank targeting big air defense after initial response and potentially expensive missile launches... 

This is where my brain goes the Wednesday before college football.

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#84274
2 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Well, I actually thought about it after Chad's post. 

Using a lot, hundreds, of big mylar balloons, with grenades attached, and a small drone type of fan to drive it generally in a direction along with prevailing wind.. it could cause the Russia air defense to react. Read the reactions and rope a dope with some drones from the flank targeting big air defense after initial response and potentially expensive missile launches... 

This is where my brain goes the Wednesday before college football.

Use the floats from the Macy's parade. That will really freak them out. Imagine these fuckers coming at you. Merica!

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#84275
11 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Use the floats from the Macy's parade. That will really freak them out. Imagine these fuckers coming at you. Merica!

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Spoiler that nightmare fuel Ronald float homie!!! 

#84277
2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Good point and it's a bonus Ukraine didn't try drones held afloat by hydrogen ballons.

Oh, the huge manatee.

#84278
1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Spoiler that nightmare fuel Ronald float homie!!! 

Sorry Mom. Nothing says Merica than a clown that gets happy making your ass fat.

#84279
1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Use the floats from the Macy's parade. That will really freak them out. Imagine these fuckers coming at you. Merica!

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Bro, this might be the best thing I have seen in this thread.

#84282
3 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Good point and it's a bonus Ukraine didn't try drones held afloat by hydrogen ballons.

Guided balloons ftw….

 

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#84284
3 hours ago, Chopper said:

Drones blowing up orcs - the last two are definitely gruesome

 

Let’s be clear, it’s the last one that’s not safe for humans. 

I always watch these sort of vids, when they’re maybe about to get disgusting, out of the corner of my eye with a readiness to scroll. No reason to give yourself PTSD while trying to have fun right? 
 

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#84285
2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

China’s economy coping with a real estate bubble popping while Ukraine is making it clear that Russia is losing this war is really just so unfortunate for Putin. 

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#84286

Didn't realize they had air defense

⚡️ Belarusian aircraft shot at stray Russian drone for first time, monitoring group says.A Belarusian fighter jet attempted to down a Russian Shahed-type drone that flew into Belarus' airspace during an attack on Ukraine, Belarusian Hajun said.https://t.co/PyQNfOtxmH
CRIMEAA freight train on the Sevastopol - Simferopol railway line was derailed by explosion.

 

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#84287
In the Kolotilovka area, Belgorod region, rusnya in dressed in Ukrainian uniform, took several civilians out into the yard and shot them. They filmed all this on camera to show it on federal channels.However, they did not take into account that an Ukrainian drone filmed… https://t.co/YFYnvnnUpR

 

NEW: Multiple reports from Western media indicate that the US government is prohibiting the United Kingdom from allowing Ukraine to use Storm Shadow missiles to strike military targets in Russia. (1/3)

 

Ukraine has the largest delegation in the country's history at the 2024 Paris Paralympics.Guess why.

 

#84289
1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

That’s fucking sad and badass at the same time.  What a fucking picture.

The had a great entrance 

This year Ukraine has the largest delegation in the country's history at 2024 Paris Paralympics. Athletes received standing ovation from the audience.

 

#84290
NEW: Multiple reports from Western media indicate that the US government is prohibiting the United Kingdom from allowing Ukraine to use Storm Shadow missiles to strike military targets in Russia. (1/3)

 

We are such shits.

#84293

squirrel (david) has been talking about this being a trap. now the Russians are wondering why their advance has been so easy:

There something about that attack. The wedge is only 20km across. It's about 45-50km between Donetsk and Pokrovsk. While the russians seems to win land going to Pokrovsk they're either not interested in, able to or even allowed to widen the wedge to protect the flanks.

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#84294
17 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

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At a glance I thought those were tits Ronald was feeling.  Modern times...

19 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

It is essentially the history of air combat relived, but in smaller scale with a more compressed timeline.

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I saw this movie, Tom Selleck, Highway to China?

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#84295

Familiar 

 

🔥❗️High alert mode introduced in Kamensky district of Rostov region due to burning oil depot. It is not yet possible to bring the flames under control.

 

Ukrainian soldiers call them sugar cubes. They are personal drone detectors that sense enemy drones nearby without giving away the wearer's position. They're small, light, easy to use, and work well to save lives. Ukrainian forces are working hard to equip every soldier with one.

 There have been 4 reported attempts at pontoon crossings. All gone.

 

⚡️🇷🇺Russian Z-bloggers write that all pontoon crossings and bridges across the Seim River in the Kursk region have been destroyed. The village of Tetkino has been cut off

 

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#84296
14 minutes ago, Nivek said:

At a glance I thought those were tits Ronald was feeling.  Modern times...

I saw this movie, Tom Selleck, Highway to China?

I also thought, "when did the clown get tits?" and...

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#84297
33 minutes ago, The Dog said:

squirrel (david) has been talking about this being a trap. now the Russians are wondering why their advance has been so easy:

There something about that attack. The wedge is only 20km across. It's about 45-50km between Donetsk and Pokrovsk. While the russians seems to win land going to Pokrovsk they're either not interested in, able to or even allowed to widen the wedge to protect the flanks.

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I too have been considering this. If there's one thing we've learned it's that the Ukes are some crafty bastards.

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#84298
40 minutes ago, The Dog said:

squirrel (david) has been talking about this being a trap. now the Russians are wondering why their advance has been so easy:

There something about that attack. The wedge is only 20km across. It's about 45-50km between Donetsk and Pokrovsk. While the russians seems to win land going to Pokrovsk they're either not interested in, able to or even allowed to widen the wedge to protect the flanks.

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#84299
17 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

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What came to my mind as well. Cut the supply lines, isolate troops, and cripple moral. Usually works if the flanking is successful.

Art of War

#84300
27 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

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Scythian "rope a dope" would also have been an acceptable and geographically appropriate answer. 

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