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#90201
In another nod to Putin, Trump administration officials inform European diplomats that the US will no longer fund programs that train and equip militaries in eastern European countries that would be on the frontline of any conflict with Russia. https://www.ft.com/content/0157d5f9-1b27-4d6c-b44e-f0a77da59b5d

 

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    For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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    I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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#90202
This morning,a russian drone killed farmer Oleksandr Hordiyenko in Kherson region. He survived occupation, lost equipment and ppl, yet kept farming his fields—even shooting down enemy drones w rifle. He once said: "Ukrainians have never given up our land...How could I leave it? I decided to fight."

 

The Russians have been targeting civilians with drones, particularly around Kherson. 

 

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#90203

Burn all of Russia to the ground and then salt the earth. 

#90206
6 hours ago, HenryJames said:
In another nod to Putin, Trump administration officials inform European diplomats that the US will no longer fund programs that train and equip militaries in eastern European countries that would be on the frontline of any conflict with Russia. https://www.ft.com/content/0157d5f9-1b27-4d6c-b44e-f0a77da59b5d

 

Russian asset doing Russian asset things.

Fucking our allies, assisting our enemies.

 

#90208

https://www.wsj.com/world/putin-wagers-ukraines-army-will-break-before-his-economy-does-d3ab22fb?mod=hp_lead_pos4

 

Not sure what all to quote here.  Putin is betting his countrymen can eat more shit, longer, than Ukraine can.  Any significant Russian economic collapse is at least 18 months out.

 

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The war in Ukraine has become a contest between two hourglasses: one measuring how long Ukraine’s thinly stretched army can keep up the fight, and the other how long Russia’s economy can sustain the invasion without hurting the stability of Vladimir Putin’s regime.

The problem for President Trump’s push for peace is that Putin is betting Ukraine’s hourglass will run out first, allowing him to impose a victor’s terms and win a place in Russian history alongside conquering czars.

That is why the Russian president has for months sidestepped Trump’s proposals to freeze the fighting with a territorial compromise that the U.S. thought would be attractive for Moscow. Instead, the Kremlin is sticking to its maximalist demands, which would effectively make Ukraine its vassal and change the balance of power in Europe.

Trump’s latest deadline for Putin to show he is serious about peace talks with Kyiv has lapsed. Meanwhile, Ukraine’s European allies continue to discuss sending peacekeepers to maintain a peace that is nowhere in sight.

What’s missing, say many policymakers and analysts who are critical of Trump’s approach to peacemaking, is a concerted U.S.-European strategy to shorten Russia’s countdown clock and change Putin’s calculation, because, on current trajectories, he could win his bet.

 

#90209
On 9/5/2025 at 6:38 AM, HenryJames said:
In another nod to Putin, Trump administration officials inform European diplomats that the US will no longer fund programs that train and equip militaries in eastern European countries that would be on the frontline of any conflict with Russia. https://www.ft.com/content/0157d5f9-1b27-4d6c-b44e-f0a77da59b5d

 

Germany should tell US bases on their soil to GTFO.  What’s the purpose at this point?   This administration has turned the world order (that we built, profit from, and depend on for protection of our international interests) upside down.  For no reason.  

#90210
2 hours ago, Disco Strangler said:

Germany should tell US bases on their soil to GTFO.  What’s the purpose at this point?   This administration has turned the world order (that we built, profit from, and depend on for protection of our international interests) upside down.  For no reason.  

Trump is a fucking developer and has never shown any comprehension when it comes to why we have such a large military, and why so much of it is deployed overseas, because it doesn't directly affect people like him - we don't do it because we want democracy around the world (although that would be great), we do it because we want to project American power, both financial and military.  Where we project power, American companies can do business.  During the Cold War, if a country was within the Soviet sphere-of-influence, American companies were not going to get in there to pick up contracts or sell stuff or strip the resources out.  We keep ships on the ocean to keep sea lanes open, etc.

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#90211
‼️Russian drones were able to break through the strongest zone of Ukrainian air defense: the area around the Cabinet of Ministers, next to Verkhovna Rada and Zelensky's residence were hit, — NYT.

 

#90212
🔥 Special Operations Forces, in cooperation with the resistance center in the Krasnodar Krai "Chernaya Iskra", carried out special operations - strike on Ilsky oil Refinery. ❗️ELOU-AT-6 is a primary oil refining complex with a capacity of 6 million tons of crude oil per year.

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#90213
40 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:
‼️Russian drones were able to break through the strongest zone of Ukrainian air defense: the area around the Cabinet of Ministers, next to Verkhovna Rada and Zelensky's residence were hit, — NYT.

 

That makes the Kremlin a sure target for Uke drones.

 

#90214
That makes the Kremlin a sure target for Uke drones.
 

I don’t know. I think it shows the continued pressure on Russian oil and gas is working. While hitting the Kremlin would be symbolic and well within Ukraines rights to target, the Ukes know where more significant and important targets are. And it really isn’t Moscow. For now.
#90215
1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:


I don’t know. I think it shows the continued pressure on Russian oil and gas is working. While hitting the Kremlin would be symbolic and well within Ukraines rights to target, the Ukes know where more significant and important targets are. And it really isn’t Moscow. For now.

That does make more sense. 
But it would be nice if the Ukes could sneak at least one drone into the Kremlin to blast an onion dome, just as a symbolic propaganda coup. 

#90216

The Ukes should save and send a month's  worth of Flamingo production straight to the Kremlin, at the same time. Fuck Vlad's "hourglass" to shit. He can throw out enough propaganda to keep mouth's shut on the front, and possibly the far flung refineries. But when nothing is left of the Kremlin but a greasy spot, Moscow is gonna lose their shit. It would be extra special if they killed about half the Duma. 

CHIEF

#90219
10 hours ago, CHIEF said:

The Ukes should save and send a month's  worth of Flamingo production straight to the Kremlin, at the same time. Fuck Vlad's "hourglass" to shit. He can throw out enough propaganda to keep mouth's shut on the front, and possibly the far flung refineries. But when nothing is left of the Kremlin but a greasy spot, Moscow is gonna lose their shit. It would be extra special if they killed about half the Duma. 

CHIEF

They've shown tremendous restraint in not wasting resources on purly symbolic attacks.  Rather, they find bold, strategic, military targets and let the audacity of the attack be thr symbolism.

In the case of the new Flamingo, I suggest building up a good stock of them then hitting a volley of targets that were otherwise too distant to target.  Let a whole buncha refineries, drone factories, etc way out in the hinterland all blow up at the same time.  

#90220
58 minutes ago, Parliament said:

In the case of the new Flamingo, I suggest building up a good stock of them then hitting a volley of targets that were otherwise too distant to target.  Let a whole buncha refineries, drone factories, etc way out in the hinterland all blow up at the same time.  

Or wait until say November or December when temps are a wee bit cool and just take out large parts of the Russian power grid.  No way they have the air defenses to protect their grid around Moscow and St. Petersburg.

#90221

Would doing so have a direct impact on their ability to wage war?  I 100% totally get the desire to inflict pain on the Russian people.  Make so they can't boil their cabbage rations and such. But if those missiles can be used more directly, they should.

That said, saving them up 2 extra months, for bigger volley's on refineries and such does make sense.

#90223
On 9/6/2025 at 11:06 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Trump is a fucking developer and has never shown any comprehension when it comes to why we have such a large military, and why so much of it is deployed overseas, because it doesn't directly affect people like him - we don't do it because we want democracy around the world (although that would be great), we do it because we want to project American power, both financial and military.  Where we project power, American companies can do business.  During the Cold War, if a country was within the Soviet sphere-of-influence, American companies were not going to get in there to pick up contracts or sell stuff or strip the resources out.  We keep ships on the ocean to keep sea lanes open, etc.

It's why he's already lost interest in this war.  Putin made him look like a fool with the Alaskan summit.  Went right back to Moscow and kept doing the same thing.  And instead of getting tough with Putin, which was the obvious next step, tfg has pretended like it just didn't happen, closed the pipeline of new weapons, and washed his hands of it so he can turn around and make war on American citizens.  Infuriating on all counts.  But taco gonna taco.  

It's as I was saying to all the optimists upthread.  We know who he is and he will never be any different.  Anything else is just wish casting.

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"Back in 2022, we offered the Ukrainian authorities to respect the choice of those people living in southeastern Ukraine, to withdraw their troops from there and end this conflict immediately. And, I must say, in general, this did not cause complete rejection. But after we, at the persistent calls of our Western European colleagues, withdrew troops from Kyiv, the situation immediately changed, and we were told, almost verbatim, 'now we will fight until you turn our heads off, or we turn yours off,'" Putin stated.

Yeah, Russia did not withdraw from Kyiv because their tank columns were destroyed and their logistics sucked so bad they had no ammo or gas - they withdrew because of requests from Europe….and got played by Ukraine.

V-boggers sympathetic to the war did not like what Putin said in China.  Several bloggers noted that the entire meeting was to show that China was now the center of power, and that people like Putin were  vassals.   One of the pro military bloggers said that he felt humiliated by Putin telling the world that Europe and Ukraine played Russia.    That is not the look of the leader of anti-western countries, but the sad story of being made a chump and telling it on yourself in front of your boss. 

Another V blogger said that Moscow was filled with festivals that were all free, and there was free music and art and everyone in Moscow had never had more to do for free.   The blogger liked it to a woman who bought and wore a beautiful expensive dress, even though her husband lost a limb in combat and her children had nothing to eat, but she had a pretty dress and went to the party anyway.

This was on Constantine’s Inside Russia YouTube channel, and he said the degree of criticism of Putin by the pro military V bloggers was the most extreme he had seen.    Apparently Russians don’t seem to care so much if everyone views them as war criminals, just as long as they are viewed as powerful war criminals who are respected and feared. 

 

#90225

Fuck Putin. And our BS. 

We killed 20+ pensioners today for the crime of queuing up in an Imperialist manner. It happened cos of this...

 

 

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🇩🇪🇺🇦/1. The German Rheinmetall announced a new large-scale contract with Ukraine. According to the words of the general director of the company, until the end of this year, Ukraine will receive first batch of Skyranger mobile anti-aircraft defense systems for protection against drones.

 

#90227

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/09/europe/poland-scramble-jets-russian-drone-reports-intl-hnk-ml

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Polish authorities have closed Warsaw International Airport and Polish and NATO aircraft have been scrambled as reports have surfaced of Russian drones over the country.

The Polish military’s Operational Command said in a statement that “ground-based air defense and radar reconnaissance systems have reached the highest level of alert” after Russia launched massive airstrikes on Ukrainian territory.

“To ensure the security of Polish airspace, the Operational Commander of the Polish Armed Forces has activated all necessary procedures,” the statement said, adding that the Polish military is “fully prepared for immediate response.”

A Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) posted on the US Federal Aviation Administration’s website said Warsaw Chopin Airport was unavailable “due to unplanned military activity related to ensuring state security.”

Uh, are we about to have a bunch of modern hussars fucking Russia up?

#90231
58 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

You were a THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER ending away from a 10/10.  

I know this is for the lube guy but I'll take it.

#90232
1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

You were a THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER ending away from a 10/10.  

What fucking pussy reported his post lol

#90233
Poland has for the first time shot down drones that came into its airspace during a Russian attack on Ukraine, in what the Nato member said was an “unprecedented violation”.https://t.co/hLli0f6qcL via @FT

Worth noting that as Poland shoots down these drones, Russia has a massive buildup of troops for Západ exercises in Belarus just across the border. 

#90234
7 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

What fucking pussy reported his post lol

 

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#90235
❗️🇷🇺Russian Gerbera drone found in 🇵🇱Wohyń, Poland. 60 km from the border
At least 19 Russian drones crossed into Polish air space last night. This was not an accidental breach or a mistake.

 

#90236
❗️🇷🇺Russian Gerbera drone found in 🇵🇱Wohyń, Poland. 60 km from the border
At least 19 Russian drones crossed into Polish air space last night. This was not an accidental breach or a mistake.

 

#90237
Moscow had been preparing drone attacks on Poland since July, using Polish and Lithuanian SIM cards in UAVs, Defense Express reports. Polish authorities were warned about test connections to their mobile networks. The likely goal was to gather intel on Poland’s air defense systems.

 

#90240
Worth noting that as Poland shoots down these drones, Russia has a massive buildup of troops for Západ exercises in Belarus just across the border. 

Putin knows the pussy that is potus won’t do shit if Putin attacks a NATO country. I guess we will see more sanctions in two weeks?
#90241
14 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


Putin knows the pussy that is potus won’t do shit if Putin attacks a NATO country. I guess we will see more sanctions in two weeks?

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#90242
7 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Putin knows the pussy that is potus won’t do shit if Putin attacks a NATO country. I guess we will see more sanctions in two weeks?

On the other hand, he also knows his troops couldn't handle a stand-up fight with the Polish.

And this is absolutely mocking Trump and making Trump look weak, which Trump despises.

#90243
33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

On the other hand, he also knows his troops couldn't handle a stand-up fight with the Polish.

And this is absolutely mocking Trump and making Trump look weak, which Trump despises.

 

I believe this, but there are so many different dynamics going on, I’m not even sure Trump knows what he wants to do next.

He is being mocked, and Putin is pissing him off.

He said he could solve the problem and doesn’t like being proved wrong.

He doesn’t want to be involved in a conflict that he can’t win.

He has some of the same escalation concerns that the Biden administration had that lead to early inaction  in the conflict.

He doesn’t want to spend money on war and wants to be an isolationist.

 

So, there are more data points that would lead Trump towards inaction, but at some point, Russia totally ignoring him and doing what it wants with impunity, is going to push him to his limit. 

 

#90244
7 minutes ago, Bevo said:

So, there are more data points that would lead Trump towards inaction, but at some point, Russia totally ignoring him and doing what it wants with impunity, is going to push him to his limit. 

How bad does he want that Nobel Peace Price? Because Putin is shitting all over that for him. Not that he ever had a practical chance mind you, but he believes he does, and he knows Putin is shitting on any chance he believes he has at it.

It is embarrassing that he's scared of Putin.  It's a good thing he doesn't follow Julia Davis and others covering Russian state media, because he'd absolutely believe that any given week, NYC or D.C. were about to be nuked.

#90245
1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

On the other hand, he also knows his troops couldn't handle a stand-up fight with the Polish.

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“Pardon me, Sir, but do you happen to have seen any Orcs lately?”

#90247
13 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Allied with Finnish Snipers on Skis. Now if we could just get some Jannisaries to head into the Caucus. 

 

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#90248

It’s deliberate a deliberate gray zone probing action, designed entirely to see how NATO and the president will respond. Early returns— weakly.  Let’s see the outcome of the Article 4 mechanism (which is a fairly big deal to invoke) and what kind of unity emerges.  Either way, some other type of escalation from Russia is likely. 

#90249
4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

It’s deliberate a deliberate gray zone probing action, designed entirely to see how NATO and the president will respond. Early returns— weakly.  Let’s see the outcome of the Article 4 mechanism (which is a fairly big deal to invoke) and what kind of unity emerges.  Either way, some other type of escalation from Russia is likely. 

tl/dr - Bullies either get their noses bloodied, or keep stealing your lunch.

#90250

So, there are more data points that would lead Trump towards inaction, but at some point, Russia totally ignoring him and doing what it wants with impunity, is going to push him to his limit. 
 


Forgetting of course the most salient point, which is that he’s Putin’s absolute bitch. Even if there isn’t kompromat, there’s clearly something Putin has that taco wants or at least strikes fear in the gaping cavity in his chest where a heart should be…

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