December 10, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Thatguy said: Agree or disagree, it's the problem we The kid that is lighting us up is a kid that nobody wanted. Now that he is a polished upperclassman you are seeing the difference. Meanwhile, our guys are bolting for the league. Edward's? why not Roach or DO?
December 10, 20187 yr The guy who got the pass from Edwards is so stupid for immediately going away from him. What an idiot.
December 10, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Goo Punch said: The bottom line of this game is that when we shoot 44% from deep we can compete with a team of Purdue's ilk. Barring a starting lineup overhaul which results in uplifting the games of both our players and team, this does not bode well going into league play. Happy with the way we've played since I've been watching, but we cannot count in this shooting every night. Purdue has a deep history, but they are unranked this year.
December 10, 20187 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Goo Punch said: The bottom line of this game is that when we shoot 44% from deep we can compete with a team of Purdue's ilk. Barring a starting lineup overhaul which results in uplifting the games of both our players and team, this does not bode well going into league play. Happy with the way we've played since I've been watching, but we cannot count in this shooting every night. I agree with this, but we also won't be playing against Carsen Edwards every game. This was a step forward.
December 10, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, Nolacycling said: Purdue has a deep history, but they are unranked this year. Yeah they lost everyone except Edwards from last year's team and they already have four losses. They rely heavily on the three ball and Edwards, if either one of those facets isn't clicking they struggle. It's a fine win, but not a great one.
December 10, 20187 yr Glad to see hepa get some bigger time and Coleman play as we expected he would this year.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
December 10, 20187 yr Just now, Machinator said: I agree with this, but we also won't be playing against Carsen Edwards every game. This was a step forward. Thank God.
December 10, 20187 yr 14 minutes ago, Goo Punch said: The bottom line of this game is that when we shoot 44% from deep we can compete with a team of Purdue's ilk. Barring a starting lineup overhaul which results in uplifting the games of both our players and team, this does not bode well going into league play. Happy with the way we've played since I've been watching, but we cannot count in this shooting every night. Derka - I know you're probably a few drinks deep, as am I - but "Purdue's ilk"? Seriously? There are 6 teams in the b12 objectively better than Purdue. That's when the real season will start for this squad.
December 10, 20187 yr 18 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said: Lose to Radford and VCU, beat Purdue. Weird What’s weird is how Texas basketball and football are fucking identical and play nail biter games against everyone including bottom feeder teams then can beat UNC but then lose to Radford at home! Crazy.
December 10, 20187 yr why does everyone keep acting like i said anything about purdue being great? what about the phrase "purdue's ilk" implies that Purdue is great? Purdue is not a very good team. I've posted this several times throughout the offseason. We were favored to win this game according to both BPI and KenPom. What I was saying is exactly what it sounded like- we have to shoot 44% from deep to beat a pretty average team that's too reliant on hitting threes and being carried by one star player. That's because we are not good, something I've maintained for quite some time now. Texas is Purdue's ilk. edit- hence the rest of my post- "this does not bode well going forward". If we need to hit threes to beat a middling team like Purdue then Big XII play is going to suck, batting Shaka realizing which of his players are actually good, something he struggles with. Edited December 10, 20187 yr by Goo Punch
December 10, 20187 yr Solid win. Good to see Hepa and Hayes get more minutes at the expense of DO. Shooting makes all the difference with this team.
December 10, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, Fozzz said: Great win. So you're NOT being sarcastic with your b'ball posts this year? Or are you?
December 10, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, Goo Punch said: why does everyone keep acting like i said anything about purdue being great? what about the phrase "purdue's ilk" implies that Purdue is great? Purdue is not a very good team. I've posted this several times throughout the offseason. We were favored to win this game according to both BPI and KenPom. What I was saying is exactly what it sounded like- we have to shoot 44% from deep to beat a pretty average team that's too reliant on hitting threes and being carried by one star player. That's because we are not good, something I've maintained for quite some time now. Texas is Purdue's ilk. edit- hence the rest of my post- "this does not bode well going forward". If we need to hit threes to beat a middling team like Purdue then Big XII play is going to suck, batting Shaka realizing which of his players are actually good, something he struggles with. Mi amigo - relajate. Me gustan tus opiniones la mayor del tiempo. Your phrasing was off. I'm not some old head trying to prove you wrong. I'm not out to get you man.
December 10, 20187 yr 15 minutes ago, Nolacycling said: So you're NOT being sarcastic with your b'ball posts this year? Or are you? Top 15 team per Kenpom.
December 10, 20187 yr Seriously, which? I enjoy your CR posts, because they so often come from a different angle, so which? Seriously. Who's a top 15 team?
December 10, 20187 yr Purdue is currently rated as the fifteenth best college basketball team in the country per Kenneth Pomeroy’s widely used metric.
December 10, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Nolacycling said: Apologies, just invested in Cowboys and Horns now. There's only 1 Duke and Kentucky and North Carolina and Kansas, but the constant is having a coach. Having a coach who can evaluate talent to fill needs.Having a coach who understands a teams strengths and weaknesses. Now? I wasn’t saying I agree or disagree with you. It just made me cringe that all you wrote was “disagree” rather than why you disagree and stating your argument. But you did now so, cool.
December 10, 20187 yr That Purdue kid who scored 40 against us couldn’t have been taller than 5’9”. Bet that’s why we didn’t try to recruit him
December 10, 20187 yr I’ve missed the last three games and now don’t know if I should be enraged, apathetic, disappointed or slightly encouraged.
December 10, 20187 yr Texas has some bad losses and some good wins. UNC and Purdue are good wins and Radford and VCU are wtf losses. Not brilliant on my part but when dealing with a young team, there's bound to be a few of these. Edited December 10, 20187 yr by Mdhorn
December 10, 20187 yr Have to say kudos to the coaching staff for trying something different with the dribble hand offs on the perimeter. Not sure how effective it was, but it did make Purdue move on defense. I wish the all of the guards played as hard as Ramey does. He created a extra ball possession by working hard and creating a turnover. Too many times Texas just ball watches and the other team gets what should be a 50/50 ball. I see DO and Febres do it repeatedly. Hepa needs to give a class on how to feed the post as he is the only one who does it adequately. Coleman and Roach played better this game, but why did it take so long to double team Edwards. That's a coaching faux-pas. Don't care about starters, but do like seeing finishers when it's Hepa with 23 and DO 17; and Hayes with 26 and Sims with 14. Good win. Radford and VCU have given the blueprint in defending Texas. We complain about all the three point shots, but any decent coach is going to pack the lane and make Texas beat them from outside. I think Texas needs to press and run. Their half court offense is not good enough and no consistent outside shooting it's too easy to defend. Press and run and play 11 players. Add in Hamm and Liddell to the regular nine playing and go.
December 10, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, Mdhorn said: Texas has some bad losses and some good wins. UNC and Purdue are good wins and Radford and VCU are wtf losses. Not brilliant on my part but when dealing with a young team, there's bound to be a few of these. This team isn't young, we don't start a single Freshman. 2 seniors and 3 Sophomores isn't young in college basketball. The bench is young but that is to be expected
December 10, 20187 yr 13 minutes ago, Dbeasy said: I’ve missed the last three games and now don’t know if I should be enraged, apathetic, disappointed or slightly encouraged. if shaka would play his best players this team would be so much better. soooo much better. Sims is awful. you don't need to be a seasoned nba scout to see how lost he is on the floor. tat he starts over sims remains to be criminal. both ramey and long have so much more upside than febres who is still a one dimensional player. and hepa is going to be a very vey good college player, and is much more of a natural hooper than DO who will never play another meaningful game in his life when this season ends. and again, all of this is obvious, and it smacks of mack brown at his worst. the guys who got here first start ahead if younger players who are *clearly* superior. there's absolutely no excuse for the current starter/minutes situation.
December 10, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, dogbreath said: Have to say kudos to the coaching staff for trying something different with the dribble hand offs on the perimeter. Not sure how effective it was, but it did make Purdue move on defense. I wish the all of the guards played as hard as Ramey does. He created a extra ball possession by working hard and creating a turnover. Too many times Texas just ball watches and the other team gets what should be a 50/50 ball. I see DO and Febres do it repeatedly. Hepa needs to give a class on how to feed the post as he is the only one who does it adequately. Coleman and Roach played better this game, but why did it take so long to double team Edwards. That's a coaching faux-pas. Don't care about starters, but do like seeing finishers when it's Hepa with 23 and DO 17; and Hayes with 26 and Sims with 14. Good win. Radford and VCU have given the blueprint in defending Texas. We complain about all the three point shots, but any decent coach is going to pack the lane and make Texas beat them from outside. I think Texas needs to press and run. Their half court offense is not good enough and no consistent outside shooting it's too easy to defend. Press and run and play 11 players. Add in Hamm and Liddell to the regular nine playing and go. Good post. I felt like Purdue did not go to school on our season and did not do enough to dictate tempo. I do think it helped that Shaka finally figured out that DO is not a crunch time player. I still don’t understand why he took Roach off Edwards on that one play near the end where he hit the three from the top of the key over Coleman. He was smart enough to double him on the last possession though.
December 10, 20187 yr 3/5 of our starters have multiple glaring weaknesses, and generally lack any sort of feel for the game. meanwhile when the lineup is five of coleman, roach, long, hepa, sims, ramey the ball moves quickly and decisively, we hit way more of our open threes, and jackson hayes is getting a dunk/block/oop every minute or so. as fucked up as this sounds this has me torn- I want shaka gone, like yesterday, and the longer this idiot refuses to change his lineup the more likely we are to lose, making it more likely that we fire this clown; it's *almost* worth going through this season like this knowing it means he will be fired, but the fan in me can't help but wish this idiot would start playing his best players more/from the opening tip so that we could enjoy a somewhat palatable brand of basketball. and yeah, it's no surprise that we won tonight with DO and Sims riding more pine. removing them from the starting lineup is the next step. we can't have such crap players in the floor to start games during league play. every night is a battle. Edited December 10, 20187 yr by Goo Punch
December 10, 20187 yr 25 minutes ago, chase25 said: This team isn't young, we don't start a single Freshman. 2 seniors and 3 Sophomores isn't young in college basketball. The bench is young but that is to be expected exactly. this excuse is tired and really doesn't apply much to basketball unless you are starting 2-3 freshmen.
December 10, 20187 yr 51 minutes ago, Dbeasy said: I’ve missed the last three games and now don’t know if I should be enraged, apathetic, disappointed or slightly encouraged. depends on how you want to end up. its best to be apathetic in my view because we aren't going to shoot 40+% from 3 every night in conf. most of the time we will shoot 30% which means a lot of losses to avg to good teams in conf. we shot 44% and won by 4 against a very avg big 10 team. good for the team tonight. they will have to have players overcome their coaching on a nightly basis to make the tourney. apathy will leave me pleasantly surprised if we make the tournament. I'm past enraged because it does no good when you understand that we are mired in one and done-ville until CDC decides he's had enough.
December 10, 20187 yr 3 hours ago, Fozzz said: Purdue is currently rated as the fifteenth best college basketball team in the country per Kenneth Pomeroy’s widely used metric. So you're saying they have ilk?
December 10, 20187 yr 5 hours ago, Thatguy said: Agree or disagree, it's the problem we The kid that is lighting us up is a kid that nobody wanted. Now that he is a polished upperclassman you are seeing the difference. Meanwhile, our guys are bolting for the league. He averaged double digits as a freshman off the bench so he's been good from the start at Purdue. From day 1 as a freshman I've asked recruiting "gurus" why he wasn't rated higher and how he compared to Jacob Young (who was in the same class) . I don't know how he wasn't a bigger recruit coming out of high school, maybe due to size, but if or when Shaka gets fired mis-evaluating this guy will be right there with all the other reasons for his firing (in fairness to Shaka, Edwards committed to Purdue about 2 and half months after Shaka got the job and I'm sure Shaka was more concerned with both Andrew Jones and D'Aaron Fox during those first few months).
December 10, 20187 yr 58 minutes ago, immortal13 said: So you're saying they have ilk? Only God is ilkless.
December 10, 20187 yr 4 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said: He averaged double digits as a freshman off the bench so he's been good from the start at Purdue. From day 1 as a freshman I've asked recruiting "gurus" why he wasn't rated higher and how he compared to Jacob Young (who was in the same class) . I don't know how he wasn't a bigger recruit coming out of high school, maybe due to size, but if or when Shaka gets fired mis-evaluating this guy will be right there with all the other reasons for his firing (in fairness to Shaka, Edwards committed to Purdue about 2 and half months after Shaka got the job and I'm sure Shaka was more concerned with both Andrew Jones and D'Aaron Fox during those first few months). This kid is waayyy better than he was as a freshman. That can't even be argued. The point is Texas' talent is leaving before they get to that point, and it's been going on way before Shaka. If that weren't true, we could've had Gibson, Tucker, LA, KD, and DJ all on one team. We have the same problem Kentucky is having but on a smaller scale.
December 10, 20187 yr While I agree that losing players prematurely has been a problem in the past we haven't had a non-surefire guy leave for the league early since Isaiah Taylor. Roach and Jones both came back. Edited December 10, 20187 yr by Catdaddyhorn
December 10, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said: While I agree that losing players prematurely has been a problem in the past we haven't had a non-surefire guy leave for the league early since Isaiah Taylor. Roach and Jones both came back. That's the thing. The surefire dudes should've stayed and polished their skills. What are any of them actually good at? Durant is the only one who should've left when he did.
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December 10, 20187 yr 14 hours ago, Goo Punch said: 3/5 of our starters have multiple glaring weaknesses, and generally lack any sort of feel for the game. meanwhile when the lineup is five of coleman, roach, long, hepa, sims, ramey the ball moves quickly and decisively, we hit way more of our open threes, and jackson hayes is getting a dunk/block/oop every minute or so. as fucked up as this sounds this has me torn- I want shaka gone, like yesterday, and the longer this idiot refuses to change his lineup the more likely we are to lose, making it more likely that we fire this clown; it's *almost* worth going through this season like this knowing it means he will be fired, but the fan in me can't help but wish this idiot would start playing his best players more/from the opening tip so that we could enjoy a somewhat palatable brand of basketball. and yeah, it's no surprise that we won tonight with DO and Sims riding more pine. removing them from the starting lineup is the next step. we can't have such crap players in the floor to start games during league play. every night is a battle. Not sure you care so much about who starts, when Hayes is playing twice the minutes of Sims and Hepa is playing more than O? Maybe those two are comfortable coming off the bench? As long as they get more time, and are on the floor when it counts, I'm fine with that. I also wouldn't be surprised if the lineup changes in the near future.
December 10, 20187 yr 14 hours ago, dcar00 said: exactly. this excuse is tired and really doesn't apply much to basketball unless you are starting 2-3 freshmen. Even then... 10 out of the best 20 players in the country are usually freshman. This isn't football.
December 10, 20187 yr 44 minutes ago, Thatguy said: That's the thing. The surefire dudes should've stayed and polished their skills. What are any of them actually good at? Durant is the only one who should've left when he did. You think Mo Bamba should have come back? lol
December 10, 20187 yr 6 minutes ago, Fozzz said: You think Mo Bamba should have come back? lol I be baaaaalllliin, like a mo fuckin prooooooo i be baaaallllin, like my.....
December 10, 20187 yr It was kind of sickening to hear the announcers pumping up the should be drafted this year hype for Hayes. I am really hoping he'll be here at least 3 years and dominate, but I don't blame him jumping if the $ is on the table. Is Hamm still dinged up a bit?... or, has the decision been made he doesn't deserve as look in live action and needs to transfer or red-shirt?
December 10, 20187 yr 45 minutes ago, Pancho Negro said: I be baaaaalllliin, like a mo fuckin prooooooo i be baaaallllin, like my.....
December 10, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Thatguy said: That's the thing. The surefire dudes should've stayed and polished their skills. What are any of them actually good at? Durant is the only one who should've left when he did. God you're an idiot. This is why I have you on ignore. Both of these dudes are crushing it. http://bkref.com/tiny/Fd8hd Edited December 10, 20187 yr by ztejas
December 10, 20187 yr 49 minutes ago, ztejas said: God you're an idiot. This is why I have you on ignore.
December 10, 20187 yr 44 minutes ago, ztejas said: God you're an idiot. This is why I have you on ignore. Both of these dudes are crushing it. http://bkref.com/tiny/Fd8hd 11 and 12 a game is crushing it? Good to know where your ceiling is. Myles is a guy who can shoot at 6'11. If he was more consistent and a more polished ball handler he could be so much more. As such Myles Turner is a guy who flashes ability here and there but looks pretty lost(offensively), and lacks physicality. You can look right on the same court and see Sabonis, who lacks the offensive skills Tuner does, but understands how to be physical and how to use his body to get to spots on the floor. If Turner learned that he would be unstoppable when you combined that with his shooting ability.
December 10, 20187 yr Author 9 minutes ago, Thatguy said: 11 and 12 a game is crushing it? Good to know where your ceiling is. Myles is a guy who can shoot at 6'11. If he was more consistent and a more polished ball handler he could be so much more. As such Myles Turner is a guy who flashes ability here and there but looks pretty lost(offensively), and lacks physicality. You can look right on the same court and see Sabonis, who lacks the offensive skills Tuner does, but understands how to be physical and how to use his body to get to spots on the floor. If Turner learned that he would be unstoppable when you combined that with his shooting ability. You're assuming that Myles would have acquired those skills at Texas and not under NBA coaching.
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