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2023 Republican Government Shutdown: Same Shit, Same Story

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9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

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4 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Wait, does this shutdown affect private jets?

I think that is sarcasm? Do you realize how many business would be impacted with multiple airports closing? Not just airline industry, the cities themselves, hotels, and it trickles down.

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2 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

Flying back out Sunday night. Let's hope this is a blip on the radar.

Well the good thing is, as long as it's not an inconvenience for you, then the whole situation is no big deal. 

 

3 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

Ruh Roh.

Fuck you for your condescending jackass commentary about breezing through TSA Pre Check days ago.

I hope you spend 18 hours in a terminal.

5 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Will it, though?

I mean, it should. But will it?

I don't think Trump and his Trumptards will change because of this. 

Yes, it will.  I expect a lot of Senators are getting chewed out by BMDs right about now, because this is now going into the territory of costing large companies and cities lots of money.  

Some Senators might be a little scared of Trump or Trumpkins trying to primary them in 2020, but they can’t predict whether the voters will still remember then, or if Trump will be running. 

They can accurately predict that if they fuck over their donors/lobbyists, those donors/lobbyists will remember and will toss money at primary opponents (or even the Democrats) 

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yes, it will.  I expect a lot of Senators are getting chewed out by BMDs right about now, because this is now going into the territory of costing large companies and cities lots of money.  

Some Senators might be a little scared of Trump or Trumpkins trying to primary them in 2020, but they can’t predict whether the voters will still remember then, or if Trump will be running. 

They can accurately predict that if they fuck over their donors/lobbyists, those donors/lobbyists will remember and will toss money at primary opponents (or even the Democrats) 

They need to be pushing to remove Trump after they open the government 

Step 1. Remove Trump from office

Step 2: Vote out every single sitting Republican in office

Then we are getting somewhere. 

 

 

Just now, mdmost said:

 

 

Yeah it's a staffing issue at the regional ATC for the Northeast, not the airports themselves.

Drudge is covering the Roger Stone and airport stuff full-tilt.   Guess for now he is standing away from Trumpkins - he made the airport stuff sound scarier than it is.  

Speaking of, these are delays and closures.  Will Ben interesting to see if it changes throughout the day. 

https://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp

16 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Have to think this is a coordinated protest given it's happening on what should've been a payday. 

Good for them. Working and not receiving paychecks on time, yeah, I'd be a little bitchy, too.

If ATC at ATL does this in a week - it'll get some people talking.

Someone should start a Gofundme for the air traffic controllers so our airports can continue functioning.

Just now, Fozzz said:

Someone should start a Gofundme for the air traffic controllers so our airports can continue functioning.

I'm sure Trump is kicking himself for not thinking of the GoFundMe angle so people can get groceries.

 

Mutiny in the senate underway.

 

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) tore into Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Thursday, saying the record-long government shutdown was McConnell's "fault," according to The Washington Post.

Frustrated Republican senators lashed out at each other and Vice President Pence on Thursday during a private GOP lunch.

"This is your fault," Johnson told the Republican leader, according to the Post.

"Are you suggesting I'm enjoying this?" McConnell reportedly fired back.

Johnson's spokesperson Ben Voelkel confirmed the confrontation to The Post.

Voelkel said Johnson was expressing his frustration with the two opposing bills to reopen the government that both failed in the Upper Chamber shortly after the encounter. 

McConnell aides declined to comment on the luncheon to the newspaper.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426922-gop-senator-reportedly-slams-mcconnell-over-shutdown-this-is-your-fault

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Mutiny in the senate underway.

 

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) tore into Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Thursday, saying the record-long government shutdown was McConnell's "fault," according to The Washington Post.

Frustrated Republican senators lashed out at each other and Vice President Pence on Thursday during a private GOP lunch.

"This is your fault," Johnson told the Republican leader, according to the Post.

"Are you suggesting I'm enjoying this?" McConnell reportedly fired back.

Johnson's spokesperson Ben Voelkel confirmed the confrontation to The Post.

Voelkel said Johnson was expressing his frustration with the two opposing bills to reopen the government that both failed in the Upper Chamber shortly after the encounter. 

McConnell aides declined to comment on the luncheon to the newspaper.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426922-gop-senator-reportedly-slams-mcconnell-over-shutdown-this-is-your-fault

That's new because normally its "that's not what happened" or "it didn't happen that way, you weren't there."

They straight up confirmed that Johnson lashed out at McConnell and blamed him.

6 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Someone should start a Gofundme for the air traffic controllers so our airports can continue functioning.

Someone like AAL maybe?

This dumb shutdown better not be used as a reason by those who want to privatize ATC. 

5 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

This dumb shutdown better not be used as a reason by those who want to privatize ATC. 

It will be.

18 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Great now our government employees...a third of whom are vets...have to resort to the Internet equivalent of panhandling to survive

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Just now, DixonHur said:

"I alone can fix it."

23 minutes ago, OatmealRaisinCookie said:

I got home after midnight yesterday due to a flight delay and am flying out again Sunday and everything I'm reading is to get to the airport earlier than the 15 minutes before boarding that I usually do. Not condescending and it seems like there are starting to be real effects.

The effects only become real to Cookie when he personally feels them. Hilarious.

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4 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

lol

 

 

On the bright side, he's probably better as the tech aspects of the job than anyone else there.

I think we see movement from Trump in working out a deal this weekend.  He desperately wants to give the SOTU next week, as well as keep the Roger Stone issue out of the press (as much as possible.)   Re-opening the govt accomplishes both even at the expense of pissing off Ann Coulter.  

what am I saying.  any logical move will not be followed.  We may declare war on Yugoslavia on Sunday.  

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I think we see movement from Trump in working out a deal this weekend.  He desperately wants to give the SOTU next week, as well as keep the Roger Stone issue out of the press (as much as possible.)   Re-opening the govt accomplishes both even at the expense of pissing off Ann Coulter.  

what am I saying.  any logical move will not be followed.  We may declare war on Yugoslavia on Sunday.  

Yugoslavia?  Dude, have you now been paying attention?  Czechoslovakia is a much bigger threat.

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

any logical move will not be followed. 

This is the most important part.  

Trump is running for his life and will do anything to save himself.  People tend to not make great logical decisions in those situations.  They usually make more mistakes which end in their own destruction.

The mystery is how many is he going to take with him?

18 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The effects only become real to Cookie when he personally feels them. Hilarious.

Well yeah, he's a Republican. Nothing matters to them until it affects them personally. That's what makes them Republican.

3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

Cocaine Mitch doesn’t want to get burned by Trump again.  Turtle is a cold blooded calculator and will never just do the right thing unless there’s something in it for him with a very low chance of backfiring. 

With Trump, the likelihood of political backfire is always high no matter what decision you make because Trump is unpredictable and dangerous.

9 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

Mitch will be first in the hydraulic press version of our French Revolution.

18 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I think we see movement from Trump in working out a deal this weekend.  He desperately wants to give the SOTU next week, as well as keep the Roger Stone issue out of the press (as much as possible.)   Re-opening the govt accomplishes both even at the expense of pissing off Ann Coulter.  

what am I saying.  any logical move will not be followed.  We may declare war on Yugoslavia on Sunday.  

This.  I think even if he admitted defeat or just came out and said the wall was a stupid idea, his base would still be with him...no this about him building a monument to himself.

2 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

This.  I think even if he admitted defeat or just came out and said the wall was a stupid idea, his base would still be with him...no this about him building a monument to himself.

It won't be that.

He'll talk about how these federal workers shouldn't be pawns in "Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats' game/open borders scheme" and he's going to re-open the government for the good of these poor individuals, but then he will spend the next 22 months campaigning on re-election, GOP keeping the Senate and GOP winning back the House so this country can TRULY and FINALLY address the border crisis that wasn't a crisis from January 2017 to December 2018.

There def is some thought to building a monument to himself, but Wall is just a vehicle to kill time and inflict pain.

I doubt he was smart enough to noodle it out ahead of time. He either stumbled into it when Coulter vetoed the December bill, or Putin gently nudged him in that direction, or both.

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41 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

lol

 

What could possibly go wrong?  Is school also shut down?

After 9/11, I remember National Guard/Army guys with weapons at checkpoints, something I had only seen before in Europe.  We have come a long way...

Interesting move if the air traffic controllers continue to get "sick."  I can understand the TSA agents are unlikely to lead the charge of forcing the politicians' hands.  They're not as skilled and command less power.   While TSA agents can't be replaced and trained immediately, air traffic controllers can't be replaced in a matter of years.    It took 10 years to return to normal operations after Reagan fired them in '81, according to wikipedia sources.

1 hour ago, relapse98 said:

If ATC at ATL does this in a week - it'll get some people talking.

ASAP.

12 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Flying tomorrow morning. Should i expect to die?

I luckily made it back to Austin an hour ago. The TSA in Tulsa was a bit surly this morning but I don't know if it was from not getting paid or from withdrawals from not being able to afford meth to keep the edge off.

 

10 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

What could possibly go wrong?  Is school also shut down?

After 9/11, I remember National Guard/Army guys with weapons at checkpoints, something I had only seen before in Europe.  We have come a long way...

Truancy, child labor, all kinds of problems here.

GOP: He's home schooled! He's learning a trade! Internships look great on Liberty University applications! Derp Derp Derp!

 

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Yes, we're all well aware you lack empathy. 

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