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20 minutes ago, ABSR said:

This is an Onion article, right?  They have gone down hill, now totally unbelievable.

I wish it was, but now that we will be actively going after tankers, the temperature has been raised substantially.

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4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I wish it was, but now that we will be actively going after tankers, the temperature has been raised substantially.

That's an outright act of war to blockcade a country. Black and white, that's definitionally an act of war

To be clear.

We have "completely surrounded" a nation that.....occupies the northern flank of a large continent.

They have apparently recently taken some "land" from us.  I admit that my knowledge of geography isn't flawless, but I can't find any map showing any "disputed territory" or "occupied by Venezuela, claimed by US" notations on it.  Perhaps someone has better maps than I've seen.  Maybe drawn with a sharpie?

I'm trying to understand what "oil" they took from us that belonged to us?  Are we talking about the nationalization in...1976?  I mean, fuck, Mexico nationalized its oil in 1938.  Guess we need to set aside some of our armada to handle that shit as well.

And what "assets" of the United States of America has Venezuela taken?  Did they snag some Trumpcoin or something? 

And most importantly, over the past 11 months....what has changed to provoke this?

I mean, we know, of course.  Epstein files and failing/flailing Trump admin has changed.  But this is just fucking amazing.  Just utterly made up fantastical, physically impossible (stole our land!) bullshit used to justify a fucking WAR.  If you support this shit, you are a genuine piece of shit.

Listen, man, my genuine hatred for [hang on a minute...checking notes...] Venezuela [wow, really?] goes back decades. They are our greatest adversary in Central America. [...whispering...] SOUTH America. Every time I hear someone speak in Venezuelan, my blood boils. [Oh. They speak Spanish? Since when? And nobody told me? Well, shit, it's too late now, just go with it.] Yes, they deserve to die, and I hope they burn in hell.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

To be clear.

We have "completely surrounded" a nation that.....occupies the northern flank of a large continent.

They have apparently recently taken some "land" from us.  I admit that my knowledge of geography isn't flawless, but I can't find any map showing any "disputed territory" or "occupied by Venezuela, claimed by US" notations on it.  Perhaps someone has better maps than I've seen.  Maybe drawn with a sharpie?

I'm trying to understand what "oil" they took from us that belonged to us?  Are we talking about the nationalization in...1976?  I mean, fuck, Mexico nationalized its oil in 1938.  Guess we need to set aside some of our armada to handle that shit as well.

And what "assets" of the United States of America has Venezuela taken?  Did they snag some Trumpcoin or something? 

And most importantly, over the past 11 months....what has changed to provoke this?

I mean, we know, of course.  Epstein files and failing/flailing Trump admin has changed.  But this is just fucking amazing.  Just utterly made up fantastical, physically impossible (stole our land!) bullshit used to justify a fucking WAR.  If you support this shit, you are a genuine piece of shit.

Maybe, we could get a Venezuelan gal to stick said sharpie up her but before drawing said map. The subsequent OF video could revitalize their economy. 

8 hours ago, Captainant said:

That's an outright act of war to blockade a country. Black and white, that's definitionally an act of war

We're definitely going to war.  Miller is justifying it after Trump's claims: "American sweat, ingenuity and toil created the oil industry in Venezuela. Its tyrannical expropriation was the largest recorded theft of American wealth and property. These pillaged assets were then used to fund terrorism and flood our streets with killers, mercenaries and drugs."

 

The question is when are we going to invade?  The naval blockade is in place. Trump verbally ordered their air space shut down last week or two weeks ago.

 

National address tonight will likely include some form of a "declaration of war". Too bad congress has long abdicated all responsibility for such things to teh executive branch.  

Just now, Anastasis said:

National address tonight will likely include some form of a "declaration of war". 

I’m beginning to think that as well. Merry Christmas?

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Trump said he is not required to seek Congress’s approval to carry out strikes against ground targets in Venezuela.

Reporter: Will you seek any authorization from Congress to conduct ground attacks against cartels in Venezuela?

Trump: I’m not obligated to inform them, but I wouldn’t mind at all. I just hope they don’t leak the information.

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Edit: This is from the same comments as the post above.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/update-us-military-gains-access-to-south-america-air-base/ar-AA1SFFT3

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U.S. Air Force personnel have joined forces with their Ecuadorian counterparts at a base in Manta in Ecuador for a temporary anti-narcotics operation.

“This short-term joint effort is carried out as part of our long-term bilateral security strategy, in line with the currently valid agreements in accordance with Ecuadorian law,” the U.S. Embassy stated on X this week.

Turns out we were trying to get multiple bases in Ecuador last month

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Ecuadorian voters recently rejected a referendum to allow permanent foreign military bases, reaffirming the ban on foreign bases like the one the U.S. previously operated in Manta. The vote came after Ecuador’s president sought U.S. military assistance and supported the opening of U.S. military bases in the ports of Manta and Salinas following Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s visit to the Manta military base in November.

At least the Green Berets aren't launching missiles at dudes floating on wreckage in the water.

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The move comes as Ecuador faces an unprecedented surge in drug-related violence, with homicide rates rising sharply over the past three years and criminal groups expanding their control over coastal trafficking routes. In an operation earlier this month, U.S. special forces under Southern Command assisted Ecuador’s 4th Army Division in a counter‑narcotics action in Esmeraldas on December 3, seizing 1.4 tons of cocaine with a value of about $98 million.

 

And yeah, it's about regime change in addition to oil. Now we are targeting Maduro's wife and other family members.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-issues-sanctions-on-family-members-associates-of-venezuela-s-maduro/ar-AA1SGObU

And Venezuela is telling the US to stay out of its coastal waters, while US continues to move ships into position.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/venezuela-warns-the-us-navy-to-back-off-us-warships-take-position/vi-AA1SFpZT

On 12/19/2025 at 7:56 PM, atomheartbevo said:

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Turns out we were trying to get multiple bases in Ecuador last month

At least the Green Berets aren't launching missiles at dudes floating on wreckage in the water.

 

We ran ops out of Manta for a long time. It was past of the FOL Program South. 

They are not Green Berets, that is their head gear. They are the US Army Special Forces. 

Come on man. Lets keep our shit straight. 

26 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

They are not Green Berets, that is their head gear. They are the US Army Special Forces. 

I know, I have friends in the Special Forces, and we have a neighbor who is in the National Guard Special Forces unit (although I think technically he is based out of San Antonio, but he works at Mabry).

But a lot of people confuse special operations as a whole with Special Forces (thanks John Wayne and Barry Saddler).

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

I know, I have friends in the Special Forces, and we have a neighbor who is in the National Guard Special Forces unit (although I think technically he is based out of San Antonio, but he works at Mabry).

But a lot of people confuse special operations as a whole with Special Forces (thanks John Wayne and Barry Saddler).

yeah but you and me don't. 

Either way, keep an eye on Soto Cano. 

On 12/17/2025 at 6:14 PM, Anastasis said:

National address tonight will likely include some form of a "declaration of war". Too bad congress has long abdicated all responsibility for such things to teh executive branch.  

as far as i can tell congress has abdicated everything. along with the judiciary too. the bleed of exec orders for what 20+ years now is finally resulting in this BS takeover. yay us. 

On 12/17/2025 at 7:19 AM, Captainant said:

That's an outright act of war to blockcade a country. Black and white, that's definitionally an act of war

It's not a blockade but an embargo.  Terminology matters even if the idiots in charge don't know the difference.  Chevron still exporting crude to Corpus, for example.  That by itself makes it not a blockade.

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