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  • I have been glancing at that Boss Katana 50 for a few days and late last night one was posted on Facebook Marketplace that looked practically brand new for $170. I didn't send a message about it

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Costs as much as an actual Peavey Bandit. 

12 minutes ago, Deej said:

Costs as much as an actual Peavey Bandit. 

Maybe more.

20 hours ago, G650 said:

Holy Shit. In.

 

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Wow. I had a Renown which was just the 212 version of the Bandit with more SS watts from about 1982 through about 97. 

 

While the thought of playing through that thing again hits me in the nostalgia feels, not sure I really want that fizzy tone again. 

1 hour ago, tbone_ said:

Wow. I had a Renown which was just the 212 version of the Bandit with more SS watts from about 1982 through about 97. 

 

While the thought of playing through that thing again hits me in the nostalgia feels, not sure I really want that fizzy tone again. 

 

While this is a pure nostalgia play by Peavey, there's definitely uses for these old amps. One is laying them down under parts as saturation, which is done all the time by mixers these days in the DAW. Another is almost as a lo fi effect.

 

I think the reason that the pedal thing is so attractive and will probably still sell at prices higher than the amps themselves is the fact it's a way more user friendly package than working around some old Bandit that's always in the way and underfoot.

10 hours ago, G650 said:

it's a way more user friendly package than working around some old Bandit that's always in the way and underfoot.

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10 hours ago, Deej said:

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Hold on to your ass Fred!

Well this ought to make some y’all’s pants go crazy. For all the Tom Scholtz, 80’s arena rock fans. The MXR Rockman X100.

Seems like maybe TBone loves to play Boston?

Brings back good memories

On 1/24/2025 at 2:34 PM, Deej said:

Costs as much as an actual Peavey Bandit. 

I have an old Peavey Bandit, and I still want one of these.  Just so I can have stacked Bandits in my chain.  

19 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

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I feel like Boss is missing "moderately aged Gen Xers who can't be bothered."

I never really dug the Rockman “Cool your engines” tone. I like the song though.

Def dig the tone in the first two albums though. Rockman tone sounds pretty different than that to me.

Gsixfifty will be along soon to explain why he’s wrong about Boston.

The Rockman was on not just random bands, but like every generic guitar riff in a commercial in the 80s, all of us of a certain vintage will instantly be able to pick it out once you know what to listen for. It was used by every hack that couldn't get a real amp and studio basically.

 

Just add it to the pile of things I hate about Tom Scholz. Though not particularly high on the list.

9 hours ago, G650 said:

 

I feel like Boss is missing "moderately aged Gen Xers who can't be bothered."

Or people who hung onto the DM-2.

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This little pedalboard plugged straight into a PA has no business sounding as good as it does.

 

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1 hour ago, Goredho said:

This little pedalboard plugged straight into a PA has no business sounding as good as it does.

 

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Expound.  What are you rocking there? 

 

44 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Expound.  What are you rocking there? 

Right to left:

  • Hotone vow press (wah/volume)
  • Swiff audio tuner
  • F-pedals phasevibe (phaser, vibrato)
  • Mooer blues mood (blues driver clone)
  • Wampler Ratsbane (rat clone) or Wampler Tumnus (klon klone)
  • Tonex one (AI amp/cab modelling using a Vox AC30 capture w/built in compressor)
  • One control dimension blue monger (chorus)
  • JHS tidewater (tremolo)
  • Schutone Loadstone (tape delay)
  • One control prussian blue reverb (reverb)

It can go from very clean with neither dirt pedal activated to edge of breakup with just the blues mood to crunch with just the ratsbane to something kinda approaching fuzz with both the blues mood and ratsbane on.  The delay and reverb can do ambient "Explosions in the Sky" type sounds.  I can fit in with pretty much any musical context with this except detuned death metal and it will sound good.  I will probably add a small EQ to allow the base tone to be tweaked for different guitars/pickups without having to muck with any of the core tone knobs.

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I don't get the Peavey nostalgia. I learned to play electric guitar on a Bandit and when I finally plugged into a Fender 410 Deville tube amp with spring reverb I could not believe the difference. It was like I had been dry humping for 2 years and then slid into a warm vaj with no condom. 

You obviously don't understand the awesomeness of terrible shit.

You obviously don't understand the awesomeness of terrible shit.

I don’t understand paying premium prices for the awesomeness of terrible shit. Part of the glee of awesome awful stuff is that it’s cheap.
54 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

I think that’s his point

I mean, his first sentence was literally he didn't get it.

Just now, Chad Fuck said:


I don’t understand paying premium prices for the awesomeness of terrible shit. Part of the glee of awesome awful stuff is that it’s cheap.

I haven't seen anything that has been exorbitantly priced?

I haven't seen anything that has been exorbitantly priced?

My brain is permanently stuck on late 80s/early 90s pricing. If a pedal costs more than $30, it’s exorbitant. $200 for this seems insane to me. I can get a real vintage Bandit for $250 on Reverb right now.
12 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


My brain is permanently stuck on late 80s/early 90s pricing. If a pedal costs more than $30, it’s exorbitant. $200 for this seems insane to me. I can get a real vintage Bandit for $250 on Reverb right now.

Yeah I get that, but as I mentioned I think the pedal is actually more valuable than an actual Bandit because you don't have to deal with another whole amp being in the way, it can just sit on your desk.

I had been very successful in purging the memory of the shittiness of the sound of my old Renown from my brain for a long long time.

Thanks a lot. [emoji34]

Ok so I’ve been kicking around trying a new direction on the electric side of things. I have a handful of awesome tube amps but they are just so goddamn loud. I usually use a 20 watt Boogie .22 Caliber+ head for band stuff but even with the drummer, full band, etc it’s too loud honestly.

I don’t really want to go full modeler amp because, well, just because. Mostly because I don’t love having to dive into all the menus and settings. So I’m kicking around a Strymon Iridium or UA Dream 65 pedal into a Seymore Duncan Powerstage 170 or an EH 44 magnum, with a dirt pedal and maybe a reverb pedal. All on one small pedal board, into a 1/12 or 2/12 cab.

Internet seems to think highly of that sort of setup. Anyone have experience with any of these pedals?

20 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Ok so I’ve been kicking around trying a new direction on the electric side of things. I have a handful of awesome tube amps but they are just so goddamn loud. I usually use a 20 watt Boogie .22 Caliber+ head for band stuff but even with the drummer, full band, etc it’s too loud honestly.

I don’t really want to go full modeler amp because, well, just because. Mostly because I don’t love having to dive into all the menus and settings. So I’m kicking around a Strymon Iridium or UA Dream 65 pedal into a Seymore Duncan Powerstage 170 or an EH 44 magnum, with a dirt pedal and maybe a reverb pedal. All on one small pedal board, into a 1/12 or 2/12 cab.

Internet seems to think highly of that sort of setup. Anyone have experience with any of these pedals?

Yeah, I have a UA Dream 65 and it's great into an FRFR or PA speaker.  It has built in impulse responses for cabinet sounds if you are going FRFR/PA and that is what I use, but you can turn those off if you want to render it through a real guitar cabinet.  Noting that as you weren't specific about the 1/12 or 2/12 cabinet and whether it's going to be some sort of FRFR thing or a real guitar cabinet.  I'll send a recording via PM so you can hear what it sounds like going the FRFR/PA route using the built in impulse responses.

I haven't tried an Iridium, but a lot of people like them.  I have owned and used a Helix, AxeFX3, Tonex, quad cortex, and...  The UA pedals are the best modeling thing I've tried with the Tonex being a close second at a much cheaper price point.

One thing that is different between the UA Dream 65 and the others is that it just provides the tones of a 1965 Deluxe Reverb and nothing else.  The obvious con is that you are locked in to one amp sound for the $399 MSRP, whereas the other things I mentioned have the ability to emulate multiple amps.  The pro to that is the pedal basically has all the dedicated controls of the real amp.  There are no abstractions, where knob X means "Presence" on one amp emulation and something else on another.  I personally like that, and it makes it much easier to dial it in without the menu diving.

Last thing I'll say is that the used story for the UA pedals is good.  Meaning, the seller doesn't have to do anything to transfer ownership for you to be able to update firmware, etc...  So you can occasionally find them for $250 or so on Reverb if you want to save some cash and be able to move it for basically what you paid for it if you don't mesh with it.

And here I am looking at Hiwatt DR103s because my Marshalls aren't loud enough.

My buddy from Slow Roosevelt back in the day used to use the pre out of a high gain tube head like an Engle or Diesel or something into a Rocktron Velocity 600 and 4 4/12 cabs. Because he said no 100 watt tube amp was anywhere near loud enough for him.

13 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

My buddy from Slow Roosevelt back in the day used to use the pre out of a high gain tube head like an Engle or Diesel or something into a Rocktron Velocity 600 and 4 4/12 cabs. Because he said no 100 watt tube amp was anywhere near loud enough for him.

 

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9 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Why not just get an attenuator, @tbone_?  I mean, if you like your amps but not their volume, you could get something like this to allow you to crank the amp but turn down the overall volume going to the speakers https://us-store.two-notes.com/collections/loadboxes-and-attentuators/products/torpedo-captor-8.

 

I've used Weber attenuators for a long time, highly recommended. They are simple, sound good, have a little tone knob you can adjust to keep frequencies balanced. Cheaper than going full RL

Got a teeny tiny parametric EQ in for that mini board.  Gonna have this on to do minor tweaking between guitars.  Scoop the mids, or clean the mud, or dial out the 2k-5k ice pick.  No idea how well it works yet, but I love its size.

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33 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Got a teeny tiny parametric EQ in for that mini board.  Gonna have this on to do minor tweaking between guitars.  Scoop the mids, or clean the mud, or dial out the 2k-5k ice pick.  No idea how well it works yet, but I love its size.

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I have a little ass parametric my buddy made too, I don't really use it as an EQ per say, but crank the mids and turn down the rest, like a cocked wah effect.

I’ve thought about an attenuator. Might try that out too. I’ve heard the Fryette is really good.

Just now, tbone_ said:

I’ve thought about an attenuator. Might try that out too. I’ve heard the Fryette is really good.

The are really really good, and on top of that Steve Fryette is one of the best dudes around. Can't recommend highly enough.

Yeah, I think modeling/emulation is great, but if you have a great amp you like and don’t mind lugging it around for gigs, I would just get an attenuator and use that.  I think the modeling shines when you:

- want to record and dont have the mics or acoustic space for it

- want to play a variety of styles, need a variety of amp tones but don’t want to pay $1k+ per amp

- are short on space and can’t afford the footprint of more physical amps

- you are old or otherwise decrepit and don’t want to haul an amp around to gigs anymore

All four of those are a yes for me, personally.

Honestly I kind of like the idea of just bringing a guitar, small pedal board and a 1/12 cab.

I plan on using the Tonex with headphones. Guitar, pedal, and headphones. Easy to lug around with me. 

48 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Honestly I kind of like the idea of just bringing a guitar, small pedal board and a 1/12 cab.

It would be hard for me to not do it this way now.  As often as not, this is what I’m taking to practice and gigs and just plugging straight from pedalboard to PA.  If a PA with monitoring is not available at the destination, I add my Laney AH150 that’s basically a mono 5 channel PA with power amp in a 1x12 combo footprint.  Can have a mic or two for vocals plugged in, guitar, etc… and it’s never been not loud enough for places that didn’t have a PA on premises.  We are talking coffee shops, small clubs/restaurants, patio gigs.

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For anyone wondering what all this sounds like, this is just the gear in the previous post:  The guitar is a Casino type fully hollow with P-90s.  Its plugged straight into that little pedal board I've posted pics of recently and the only things active are the Tonex One pedal using an amalgam captures Vox AC-30 model, pushed slightly with a blues driver clone (in front), with a little reverb (behind).  From there its out to a looper and then to the Laney AH150.  The looper is used to record the first pass of chords/harmony/accompaniment and then I'm improvising over that.   This is all just recorded with the mic on my iphone, so no processing or tricks on the recording end to improve sound quality or anything.  I get lots of compliments about tone from guitarists who can't believe what I tell them when asked about my rig.

 

2 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Honestly I kind of like the idea of just bringing a guitar, small pedal board and a 1/12 cab.

I am hearing you say "TwoRock Studio Pro 35," and yes, you should.  

I played a BD 2 today for the first time in eons, and goddamn its criminal how good those things sounds.

This little pedalboard plugged straight into a PA has no business sounding as good as it does.
 
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Do you leave the Tonex on all of the time?

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