May 13, 20196 yr I hope the passing game is better but there is a lot of uncertainty with our wideouts. LJH yac was insane last year that's gonna be tough to replace.I think Whittington catching the ball out of the backfield can give us some similar yac..or at least I'm hoping. CJ can make the circus catches in big games, but yac isn't really part of his game.
May 13, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, ousux said: On 5/7/2019 at 11:24 PM, Coach pop a bitch said: I hope the passing game is better but there is a lot of uncertainty with our wideouts. LJH yac was insane last year that's gonna be tough to replace. I think Whittington catching the ball out of the backfield can give us some similar yac..or at least I'm hoping. CJ can make the circus catches in big games, but yac isn't really part of his game. Catch the ball in the End Zone, no fucks given about yac.
May 14, 20196 yr Looking forward to some insane plays out of 20 and 21 personnel. Time to fuck up some more secx3 defense.
May 14, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, Machinator said: Opposite perspective. From the LSU 247 board. Writing off Burrow and Ehlinger as equal talents is one of the funniest things I’ve read in quite a while.
May 14, 20196 yr 27 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said: Writing off Burrow and Ehlinger as equal talents is one of the funniest things I’ve read in quite a while. Yep it takes a special kind of stupid to believe that. Sam is a superior QB and it's not even close. Getting close to time to bring this thread back up. I'll do an analysis of the teams once we've seen how they look in the Fall.
May 14, 20196 yr DAMN.... If FOX gets LSU vs Texas, they could be stupid enough to schedule game at 11am on Sept 7th https://thebiglead.com/2019/05/13/fox-is-really-making-a-run-at-college-gameday-by-putting-its-best-games-on-at-noon/ "Fox splits the Big Ten, Big 12, and Pac-12 with ESPN and ABC; if you’re interested in a primer on how these games get divied up, Fox executive Michael Mulvihil explained on my podcast: As you know, we share rights with ESPN for three of the five power conferences [Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12]. The way that those rights are allocated is that the conferences themselves don’t decide what games will be on what network. That’s unlike the NFL, where there’s an NFL broadcasting department that puts the schedule together and they decide that Packers-Patriots is going to be on NBC and Cowboys-Eagles is going to be on Fox at 4:25. That’s a collaborative process, but in the end the NFL makes those decisions. In the college draft, the conferences put together a game schedule [with the dates] but then we and ESPN sit down and actually choose game windows in the Spring where we’ll say — and we have the number one pick in the Big Ten draft — we’re going to take the first selection on November 24th. We pick that date obviously with an eye toward it being Ohio State-Michigan, but we don’t literally take Ohio State-Michigan. We just take the right to have the first choice on November 24th. And then ESPN will choose the right to have the first choice on a week in September. And we’ll come back and use our first pick in the Big 12 to take the number one pick in the first week of October which will be Texas-Oklahoma. So you go through this pretty long process in the Spring where we determine who will have the first, second, third, fourth choice on any given Saturday, and then once we actually get to the season we designate those games 12 days out or in some cases six days out. So as the season goes on we’ll say, Okay we’re up to Week 7. We have the first pick. We’re going to use that first pick on Michigan-Michigan State. ESPN then has the second pick, and they [hypothetically] thought they were going to use it on Penn State-Iowa, but because events on the field are unpredictable they’re actually going to use it on Wisconsin-Northwestern. Because you’re drafting windows and not actual games, once you get to the season in progress and you’re surprised by which teams are better than you thought and which teams aren’t as good as you expected, you can adjust and make sure that you’re getting the best game in the best window. It’s a very complicated and very fluid process, but I think the benefit of it is because it’s as fluid as it is we’re able to react to events as they happen. It enables us to make sure that we’re putting the best games in the best possible windows. It should benefit the fan. Edited May 14, 20196 yr by LTtxfan
May 14, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, sushihorn said: Yep it takes a special kind of stupid to believe that. Sam is a superior QB and it's not even close. Getting close to time to bring this thread back up. I'll do an analysis of the teams once we've seen how they look in the Fall. you do that, but before you do, query me this: you've never played a down of football in your life, have you? no bullshit...straight up.
May 14, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said: you do that, but before you do, query me this: you've never played a down of football in your life, have you? no bullshit...straight up. Who cares? He’s not wrong. There’s significant statistics supporting his position.
May 14, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said: Who cares? He’s not wrong. There’s significant statistics supporting his position. bullshit...it's hard to pick up intangibles without having played the game. there's people you run through a wall for and there's those you won't do shit for. but whatever...lay it out. common opponents would be helpful. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent. Edited May 14, 20196 yr by Kyrie Eleison
May 14, 20196 yr 5 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said: you do that, but before you do, query me this: you've never played a down of football in your life, have you? no bullshit...straight up.
May 14, 20196 yr 4 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said: bullshit...it's hard to pick up intangibles without having played the game. there's people you run through a wall for and there's those you won't do shit for. but whatever...lay it out. common opponents would be helpful. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent. Sam would have scored against Alabama
May 14, 20196 yr you do that, but before you do, query me this: you've never played a down of football in your life, have you? no bullshit...straight up.Have you ever nailed a 6 in spike through a board with your penis?
May 14, 20196 yr bullshit...it's hard to pick up intangibles without having played the game. there's people you run through a wall for and there's those you won't do shit for. but whatever...lay it out. common opponents would be helpful. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent.The transitive metric has only failed in most previous attempts to predict success and scoring so I dont see why we should abandon it now. Using this method no way Texas loses to Kansas a few years ago.
May 14, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Nivek said: The transitive metric has only failed in most previous attempts to predict success and scoring so I dont see why we should abandon it now. Using this method no way Texas loses to Kansas a few years ago. this is correct...but i'll take an Aranda coached defense with 8 returning starters, 4 of which are former 5 stars., up against any QB. 3 of those 5 stars are in our secondary, and the best of our secondary (Delpit) isn't one of them.
May 14, 20196 yr 19 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said: then lay it out. common opponents would be helpful, first. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent. Well Gawgia coughed up the ball 4 times against lsu vs. only 2 times vs. Texas... But still.. Passing 15-30, 200 yds, 65.7 QBR Passing 19-27, 169 yds, 69.1 QBR Rushing 13-66 yds, 2 TDs (59 yd long, so the other 12 carries were a total of 7 yds) Rushing 21-64 yds, 3 TDs (17 yd long) Receiving 0 Receiving 1-8 yds Also in the stat line was Devin White making 13 total tackles. Anyway, just watch the two play all season, your eyes aren't lying to you.
May 14, 20196 yr 1 minute ago, Kyrie Eleison said: this is correct...but i'll take an Aranda coached defense with 8 returning starters, 4 of which are former 5 stars., up against any QB. 3 of those 5 stars are in our secondary, and the best of our secondary (Delpit) isn't one of them. So do they even have to play the games if you recruit enough 5 stars? How did all those bad ass defensive backs look against aggy? Also, didn't UCF with a backup QB put up 32 points on yall? Can't wait, Florida and Texas gonna give Ed a heart attack.
May 14, 20196 yr 8 minutes ago, Zavala said: So do they even have to play the games if you recruit enough 5 stars? How did all those bad ass defensive backs look against aggy? Also, didn't UCF with a backup QB put up 32 points on yall? Can't wait, Florida and Texas gonna give Ed a heart attack. they looked good considering we were down 3 DBs before the first snap (one to the draft and two out with injuries) and ended up with two converted WRs playing DB and losing Delpit to a targeting call in the first half. all in all, we had but 3 true DBs available for the bowl game, and one of the 5 stars (the number 1 rated recruit of 2019 who will start at 1 corner this year) wasn't even on the team yet. all things considered, i'll take the W given the ragtag unit we put out there. Quote Then, during the first half of the Fiesta Bowl, LSU lost regular starting sophomore strong safety Grant Delpit, an All-American in 2018, for the game because of a targeting hit, leaving Battle as the only regular starter in the secondary. Delpit was replaced by sophomore JaCoby Stevens, who made six tackles with an interception and a pass breakup. Also, in the first half, senior cornerback Terrence Alexander, who had started for Fulton, was ejected because he punched UCF wide receiver Gabriel Davis. So Alexander was LSU's fourth cornerback out. Mannie Netherly, a sophomore converted wide receiver, went in for Alexander at a position he had never played at LSU in a game. Jontre Kirklin, another sophomore who doubled as a wide receiver, also played in the secondary more than at any time in his career. LSU finished the game with its fifth and sixth cornerbacks in the game. "I think they were fantastic," Orgeron said of Netherly and Kirklin. "They had barely played any in the secondary this year. Are you kidding me? I thought they played great. Mannie Netherly is out there for the first time at corner. We lost our fourth corner. We put Mannie in there, and he played very well. You talk about 'next man up' and 11th man on the field, we fight like Tigers. They did it." Sophomore Kary Vincent Jr., a third cornerback with six previous starts this season, started for Williams at cornerback despite the death of his father the day before LSU left for the bowl game. in other words, that's not the secondary you're going to see... Edited May 14, 20196 yr by Kyrie Eleison
May 14, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said: bullshit...it's hard to pick up intangibles without having played the game. there's people you run through a wall for and there's those you won't do shit for. but whatever...lay it out. common opponents would be helpful. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent. "Yeah but like intangibles" is a) a bad argument and b) if they mean anything, Ehlinger is a moxie god
May 14, 20196 yr "Yeah but like intangibles" is a) a bad argument and b) if they mean anything, Ehlinger is a moxie godthey both are...
May 14, 20196 yr Just curious when's the last time LSU shutdown a prolific non-SECSEC offense that had a healthy starting QB? Maybe Louisville in 2016? Even though they had plenty of issues before the LSU game, like only scoring 10 points in a loss to powerhouse Houston. Edited May 14, 20196 yr by totallynotabuttpirate
May 15, 20196 yr They will easily shut down our RPO spread attack. So old fashioned. We will never be able to stop their newfangled RPO spread attack though. Edited May 15, 20196 yr by Valmy77
May 15, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said: you do that, but before you do, query me this: you've never played a down of football in your life, have you? no bullshit...straight up. Seriously? This is what you want to hang your hat on? I played in HS. That was a while ago to put it mildly since it means so much to you. Maybe you should dispute my analysis on its merits rather than trying to attack the messenger. The ad homimen combined with the "intangibles" line strongly indicate that your argument is crap. Against the common opponent, Sam was nails on critical downs. Texas converted 9 of 19 3rd downs and 2 of 2 on 4th downs. LSU was 6 of 19 and 4 of 4 so Texas was mach more efficient. Sam's combined stat line was 5 of 7 for 53 yds passing with 4 conversions on those downs. Burrow was 4 of 8 for 24 yards and also had 2 drive killing sacks to go with 4 conversions. It should be obvious from those stats that Burrow had more 3rd and short opportunities but still needed 10 tries to get the same number of conversions as Sam did in 7. But in Burrow's defense, he was much more likely to choke in critical situations.
May 15, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said: you do that, but before you do, query me this: you've never played a down of football in your life, have you? no bullshit...straight up. Let's you and I have a chat. If after that chat, you will acknowledge that I have played more downs of football than you, do you promise to forsake all of your own football opinions for the rest of your life, and only believe what I tell you about the game?
May 15, 20196 yr Let's you and I have a chat. If after that chat, you will acknowledge that I have played more downs of football than you, do you promise to forsake all of your own football opinions for the rest of your life, and only believe what I tell you about the game? Jeff Fisher Kentucky Fried Chicken?
May 15, 20196 yr Kyrie is right. This is yet another SECSECSEC team that Texas has no prayer of beating. DOOMED.
May 15, 20196 yr bullshit...it's hard to pick up intangibles without having played the game. there's people you run through a wall for and there's those you won't do shit for. but whatever...lay it out. common opponents would be helpful. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent.Dude. Put down the purple kool aid. There are plenty of reasonable positions to support LSU being favored over Texas. Burrow bring Ehlinger's equal is not one of them.Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
May 15, 20196 yr 46 minutes ago, utee94 said: Kyrie is right. This is yet another SECSECSEC team that Texas has no prayer of beating. DOOMED. Unless they aren't motivated, then maybe Texas has a chance
May 15, 20196 yr https://www.readandreaction.com/2018/10/04/florida-lsu-will-come-down-to-feleipe-franks-versus-joe-burrow/ https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/10/04/danny-kanell-lsu-florida-feleipe-franks/ What happened against Feleipe Franks and Florida?
May 15, 20196 yr On 5/7/2019 at 11:24 PM, Coach pop a bitch said: I hope the passing game is better but there is a lot of uncertainty with our wideouts. LJH yac was insane last year that's gonna be tough to replace. NOT ONE PLAY over 50 yards. There is an incredible amazing unit of room for improvement and replacing the dink and dunk brute strength with more polish in the passing game is not quite that tall of task
May 15, 20196 yr In terms of passing ability, I don't think Ehlinger is decidedly better than Burrows. When you give Burrows time, he can make the throws. He was absolutely the deciding factor against UCF. But this game won't be decided by Ehlinger/Burrows. I do think we have more to be concerned with than LSU, but I really hope they try to run spread against us. Nothing they do will be better than what we see every year from Oklahoma, West Virginia, OSU, Baylor, Tech, etc...you want to run spread against us? Be our guest. I actually think LSU is better served trying to run pro, with our dearth of linebackers. This looks, to me, like a very tight matchup, and I can understand the optimism from both fan bases. Edited May 15, 20196 yr by Ghost of Shag
May 15, 20196 yr 18 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said: In terms of passing ability, I don't think Ehlinger is decidedly better than Burrows. When you give Burrows time, he can make the throws. He was absolutely the deciding factor against UCF. But this game won't be decided by Ehlinger/Burrows. I do think we have more to be concerned with than LSU, but I really hope they try to run spread against us. Nothing they do will be better than what we see every year from Oklahoma, West Virginia, OSU, Baylor, Tech, etc...you want to run spread against us? Be our guest. I actually think LSU is better served trying to run pro, with our dearth of linebackers. This looks, to me, like a very tight matchup, and I can understand the optimism from both fan bases. Reasonable takes not allowed. Burn him
May 15, 20196 yr Just announced: Game is at 6:30pm CST on ABC, and that all but assures Gameday will be in Austin for the first time in over a decade. Edited May 15, 20196 yr by USMCHorn
May 15, 20196 yr 17 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said: this is correct...but i'll take an Aranda coached defense with 8 returning starters, 4 of which are former 5 stars., up against any QB. 3 of those 5 stars are in our secondary, and the best of our secondary (Delpit) isn't one of them. Oh yeah? How about against Tua? That worked out so well last time. Guess it doesnt work if the qb is a 5 star, amirite!?! Edited May 15, 20196 yr by SydneyCarton
May 15, 20196 yr 10 minutes ago, USMCHorn said: Just announced: Game is at 6:30pm CST on ABC, and that all but assures Gameday will be in Austin for the first time in over a decade.
May 15, 20196 yr Texas and LSU set for marquee kickoff time on ABC By TAYLOR ESTES. 9 minutes ago The Longhorns big dog out of conference game on the schedule is set for prime time on ABC. Texas and LSU will kickoff inside Darrell K Royal - Texas Memorial Stadium on Sept. 7 at 6:30 p.m. CT as part of the network's marquee game on ABC's Saturday Night Football, the University of Texas and ABC announced Wednesday morning. The Week 2 match up is one of the marquee non-conference games of the 2019 college football season between two history powerhouse football programs in college football. This year will mark the first time for Texas to be featured as ABC's premier Saturday night college football broadcast since 2013, when the Longhorns game against Kansas State was featured by the network.
May 15, 20196 yr 38 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said: In terms of passing ability, I don't think Ehlinger is decidedly better than Burrows. When you give Burrows time, he can make the throws. He was absolutely the deciding factor against UCF. Respectfully disagree. 7 points of completion percentage, 13 points of QB rating, 40% more TDs argue otherwise. Burrow also took 40% more sacks on fewer attempts than Sam but that is only partly on him and partly on his fatass, immobile OL.
May 15, 20196 yr Love that this game is at home, where we have an actual game day atmosphere again. Also love that it's very early in the season given the holes in our depth.
May 15, 20196 yr 18 hours ago, Kyrie Eleison said: bullshit...it's hard to pick up intangibles without having played the game. there's people you run through a wall for and there's those you won't do shit for. but whatever...lay it out. common opponents would be helpful. so i suggest starting by first looking at both of their numbers vs. Georgia, our common opponent. You wanna play the intangibles card against Ehlinger? You stupid, bruh.
May 15, 20196 yr 6 minutes ago, HOOK'EMHOOAH said: You wanna play the intangibles card against Ehlinger? You stupid, bruh. where exactly did i say that? i'm aware of Ehlinger's intangibles. many of you are seemingly unaware that more than one QB can possess the same intangibles.
May 15, 20196 yr Just now, Kyrie Eleison said: where exactly did i say that? i'm aware of Ehlinger's intangibles. many of you are seemingly unaware that more than one QB can possess the same intangibles. I'm not saying burrow doesn't have intangibles. But I am saying Ehlinger's are better.
May 15, 20196 yr Just now, Kyrie Eleison said: we'll find out in a few months... Just make sure you don't go @TrojanPrincess on us if it doesn't work out.
May 15, 20196 yr 15 hours ago, Valmy77 said: They will easily shut down our RPO spread attack. So old fashioned. We will never be able to stop their newfangled RPO spread attack though.
May 15, 20196 yr I personally cant WAIT for the LSU posters to arrive in advance of the game. Never the ou trolls that regularly reside here...
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