May 29, 20232 yr Would have loved for them to have done the movie with DDL and Marky Mark but it wouldn’t have fit the timeline.
May 29, 20232 yr The near psychotic walk up to the guns counter and subsequent walk away with all that shit on him was pretty funny and damning.
May 29, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Ted Lange said: HAHAHAHA. OK. This third season was the definition of MID
May 29, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, DDD Dad said: Would have loved for them to have done the movie with DDL and Marky Mark but it wouldn’t have fit the timeline. Or the budget, either.
May 30, 20232 yr I thought the ending was unique and cool and also damning. This was an awesome show. Not Mt Rushmore by any means. But really thought they landed the plane well with the ending.
May 30, 20232 yr I was sufficiently whelmed with the ending. In early season 1 my wife and I were saying there was no way he could be redeemed where he could have a happy ending. I thought the twist outcome was a nice touch. I appreciate that we are getting shows that aren’t just “comedies” or “dramas” and that a show can morph from primarily more a comedy with moments of drama/shock in it to (as the stakes are upped) a drama with moments of comedy peppered in. I hope Hader does more “not everyone’s cup of tea” projects (and endings) like this.
May 30, 20232 yr Good ending. Everything Barry prayed for while sitting in the car kind of came about; he died (next day but whatever), John and Sally got out to a hopefully long and pious life, and with everything getting pinned on Fonzie, Barry was 'redeemed' enough to be considered a hero and get buried in Arlington. I think Fuches got off way too lightly, though. He was the real bastard here and 8 years in prison wasn't enough. I question his intentions for taking John initially, and only letting him go when he saw Barry was about to storm the building and kill everyone inside like he did at the temple. Well now this and Succession are done, and the writers are on strike, and there's no football. Shit.
May 30, 20232 yr ^ yea I was hoping to see Barry make light work of the Fuchs/noho men … now I wanna rewatch temple scene
May 30, 20232 yr so what was the shit with the guy in black in the house in oklahoma? was sally super fucked up or did that happen?
May 30, 20232 yr Not a fan of the entire season, last episode included. To me, the show lost its way. It went from a dark comedy to just being dark with some comic relief sprinkled in there. It lost a lot of the absurdist shit that made it so good. And I don't have a problem with the ending per se, but the execution made it seem more sad than funny or a sarcastic commentary on Hollywood. Pinning Janice's murder on Cousineau... ok, I can live with that. But the execution was ham fisted, as was the end of Hank. I dunno, it just fell flat to me. The show was better when it was more light hearted and Barry was just an unwitting idiot making his way through things.
May 30, 20232 yr I liked the ending. Barry being buried in Arlington. A gotdamned hero! lol But they should've shown Gene happily teaching an acting class in prison.
May 30, 20232 yr 29 minutes ago, Asithappens said: ... But they should've shown Gene happily teaching an acting class in prison. Fonzie got a raw deal compared to Fuches.
May 30, 20232 yr I think Barry got what he deserved, and i genuinely laughed when he got shot, saw Cousineau with the gun, and just said "oh wow". Just the way he said it was fucking perfect. Other than that.....yeah....didn't really care too much for where they took the last season. Edited May 30, 20232 yr by Pam Cummings
May 30, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, TOR said: Fonzie got a raw deal compared to Fuches. I didn't like Fonzie getting the rap for the murder. I don't even understand what evidence there would be to pin it on him. The $250,000 went from Barry to Fonzie, not the other way around - which you would expect in a scenario that Fonzie pays Barry to kill someone. To borrow a line from a famous lawyer - Johnny Cochran (on Southpark): "that does not make sense!"
May 31, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, Jerry Callo said: I didn't like Fonzie getting the rap for the murder. I don't even understand what evidence there would be to pin it on him. The $250,000 went from Barry to Fonzie, not the other way around - which you would expect in a scenario that Fonzie pays Barry to kill someone. To borrow a line from a famous lawyer - Johnny Cochran (on Southpark): "that does not make sense!" Lol, of course, but as I often tell my wife when watching tv shows "it's not a documentary". Just enjoy the drama and the acting. (it's taken me a long time to get to that point).
May 31, 20232 yr On 5/30/2023 at 4:05 PM, Jerry Callo said: I didn't like Fonzie getting the rap for the murder. I don't even understand what evidence there would be to pin it on him. The $250,000 went from Barry to Fonzie, not the other way around - which you would expect in a scenario that Fonzie pays Barry to kill someone. To borrow a line from a famous lawyer - Johnny Cochran (on Southpark): "that does not make sense!" Yea I thought so as well. I thought there was no case against Cousineau. And as others have said, it seems out of character for Moss' father to be fooled into believing the wrong thing. There's also the scene from earlier in the series where Moss does the "mind games" thing with Cousineau, where he locks him in the garage and yells at him, asking "why are you protecting Barry" or whatever. Seems like if Cousineau had anything to confess he'd have done it there. Maybe the grief drove him crazy. Edited May 31, 20232 yr by Pam Cummings
June 14, 20232 yr Fun ass show. Didn't see that ending coming but happy with it. This thread has been funny to read alongside watching. Plenty of plot holes towards the end But I'm pleased with the overall journey and result. NoHo Hank stole this show. I only wish he had lived somehow. Only big question is who was fucking with the Berkmans at the safe house? Who stabbed the assassin in the eye?
June 14, 20232 yr Only big question is who was fucking with the Berkmans at the safe house? Who stabbed the assassin in the eye?Sally’s alcohol/PTSD induced hallucinationReminder
June 14, 20232 yr 47 minutes ago, Lurch said: Sally’s alcohol/PTSD induced hallucination Reminder So nobody was after them? Barry and Sally both hallucinate the knock on the door the night previous?
June 14, 20232 yr So nobody was after them? Barry and Sally both hallucinate the knock on the door the night previous? Nobody was after them. The knock was real but it shows them overreact to an otherwise innocuous event, probably the neighbor kid pranking them
June 14, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Lurch said: Nobody was after them. The knock was real but it shows them overreact to an otherwise innocuous event, probably the neighbor kid pranking them hmmmm.....nah.
June 14, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Lurch said: at 1:40 you can hear them laughing and running away ahh maybe so, sorry.
June 14, 20232 yr My favorite scene of the season was when NoHo misses with the rocket and Fuches boys come after him. Lulz
June 14, 20232 yr If they hadn't killed off... well, everybody, a NoHo-Chechen spinoff could have worked. Their wacky adventures to take over the Los Angeles area crime syndicate and go legit. Maybe web shorts. Anthony Carrigan is pretty damn talented.
June 14, 20232 yr If they hadn't killed off... well, everybody, a NoHo-Chechen spinoff could have worked. Their wacky adventures to take over the Los Angeles area crime syndicate and go legit. Maybe web shorts. Anthony Carrigan is pretty damn talented. They could easily squeeze it in the time period when Barry was in OK
June 18, 20232 yr Just watched S4 over the last week, one a night and watched the last 2 episodes tonight. That’s the way to do it. It’s built to binge - 30 minute episodes, 8 per season. I think Bill Hader is a freaking genius, and this series definitely shows his chops - prestige television is giving way to streaming as the dominant paradigm, and this is a show that is built to be watched over a month or a few weeks start to finish. When the writers strike is over he will be in demand. It was a great ride. My only criticism of the finale - wish it ended with the sudden fade to black when Barry got shot.
June 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, hornian said: It was a great ride. My only criticism of the finale - wish it ended with the sudden fade to black when Barry got shot. I actually thought it was over right then, but no we get an epilogue nobody asked for.
June 20, 20232 yr On 6/17/2023 at 11:38 PM, hornian said: Just watched S4 over the last week, one a night and watched the last 2 episodes tonight. That’s the way to do it. It’s built to binge - 30 minute episodes, 8 per season. I think Bill Hader is a freaking genius, and this series definitely shows his chops - prestige television is giving way to streaming as the dominant paradigm, and this is a show that is built to be watched over a month or a few weeks start to finish. When the writers strike is over he will be in demand. It was a great ride. My only criticism of the finale - wish it ended with the sudden fade to black when Barry got shot. Agree with everything up to the last point-- too derivative and too "Soprano's". I think Hader wins an Oscar at some point in the short to medium term-- for director or actor. He flat out had a coming out party with this show.
August 27, 20232 yr On 6/17/2023 at 11:38 PM, hornian said: Just watched S4 over the last week, one a night and watched the last 2 episodes tonight. That’s the way to do it. It’s built to binge - 30 minute episodes, 8 per season. I think Bill Hader is a freaking genius, and this series definitely shows his chops - prestige television is giving way to streaming as the dominant paradigm, and this is a show that is built to be watched over a month or a few weeks start to finish. When the writers strike is over he will be in demand. It was a great ride. My only criticism of the finale - wish it ended with the sudden fade to black when Barry got shot. Just finished; I don't know how you binge this, it's DARK. Let me give you an alternative, less hopeful explanation for the final sequence than Sepinwall and others on the web that I've been reading this morning seemed to find. Say that the Mask Collector adaptation of the story required Sally's participation or her consent, and that she knew it'd be shifting the blame to Cousineau and she'd be living with that lie for the rest of her life. The finale is one where all of our main characters are acknowledging the lies they've told themselves; she's both acknowledging it and then repeating it. Maybe it's for the benefit of John, a way for her to personally move on, maybe it for money. Either way it represents a repudiation of the main theme (and her personal hell; she gets none of the glory she previously sought instead re-embraces her delusions, so to speak).
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