August 27, 20214 yr If Nirvana should be sued for anything, it should be for lifting the riff from Killing Jokes' "Eighties" and using it on "Come as you are"
August 28, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, freyguy said: If Nirvana should be sued for anything, it should be for lifting the riff from Killing Jokes' "Eighties" and using it on "Come as you are" Whoa. I have a list of shameless rips. Looks like I'm adding one.
September 27, 20214 yr Good read on Cobain: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/my-time-with-kurt-cobain
September 27, 20214 yr On 8/27/2021 at 7:17 PM, ztejas said: Whoa. I have a list of shameless rips. Looks like I'm adding one. Add Killing Joke as well.
October 27, 20214 yr Dropped by the In Utero house in the Hollywood Hills. Appaerently a developer purchased it with plan to renovate. Interesting location with a killer view but no parking closer than a 200-step hike up the side of the hill.
September 23, 20223 yr Author I know everyone jacks it to nevermind and rightfully so but In Utero is ridiculous and doesn’t get nearly the love it deserves. The story telling in some songs as well as the face melters combined with well mixed nevermind type songs like heart shaped box, just a special album.
September 23, 20223 yr I prefer Nevermind, I think the playing and recording/mixing is better, but I'm happy to listen to In Utero any day. What blows my mind is that two of the biggest douchebags in rock were behind the glass on both of them (Vig and Albini).
September 23, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said: I prefer Nevermind, I think the playing and recording/mixing is better, but I'm happy to listen to In Utero any day. What blows my mind is that two of the biggest douchebags in rock were behind the glass on both of them (Vig and Albini). Yeah I celebrate both for what they are. Love the power-pop/punk mashup of Nevermind, and also love the noisy garage rock vibe of In Utero. Probably my favorite single Nirvana live performance is when they did "Scentless Apprentice" on "Live and Loud." It used to be on YouTube (I think I linked it earlier in the thread) but it's since been taken down. And lol about Albini and Vig.
September 24, 20223 yr Am I the only one that prefers Bleach to Nevermind and In Utero? The remastered vinyl sounds fantastic.
September 24, 20223 yr Author 9 hours ago, CooterBrown said: Am I the only one that prefers Bleach to Nevermind and In Utero? The remastered vinyl sounds fantastic. Not at all I love that ducking album! All 3 are great. Cobain was trying to alienate his new fans with in utero by going back for the bleach sound
September 24, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, CooterBrown said: Am I the only one that prefers Bleach to Nevermind and In Utero? The remastered vinyl sounds fantastic. Bleach is pretty much the only one I would say I really like. I don't dislike Nevermind, but it definitely hasn't held up as much as I thought it would. In Utero was always pretty meh I thought
September 25, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, freyguy said: Nevermind was a pop album. fight me Of course it was a pop album. It's also the greatest pop album since "London Calling" (which wasn't really a pop album, but whatever).
September 25, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, freyguy said: Nevermind was a pop album. fight me It turned out to be that way, but I don't think Nirvana were making pop on purpose at the time.
September 26, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, PRONG HORN said: It turned out to be that way, but I don't think Nirvana were making pop on purpose at the time. He was. Sorry I’m a Nirvana nerd. He wanted a clean pop sound. He knew the mix he wanted and the songs he was writing. When it blew up it drew attention to a new fan base the “jocks” and “popular kids” started listening hence in utero’s more “bleach” sound on the recording, as I stated he was trying to alienate the “jocks” and “popular” kids and was hoping the real fans stood out.
September 26, 20223 yr I was never a fan of Nirvana. My introduction to Come As You Are was from a cover by Charlie Hunter. (The other two guys from the trio - sax player Dave Ellis and drummer Jay Lane - would both go on to play with members of the Grateful Dead in Dead-offshoot bands).
September 26, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said: I was never a fan of Nirvana. My introduction to Come As You Are was from a cover by Charlie Hunter. (The other two guys from the trio - sax player Dave Ellis and drummer Jay Lane - would both go on to play with members of the Grateful Dead in Dead-offshoot bands). I'm sorry . . . different strokes and all that . . . but that's terrible.
September 26, 20223 yr Speaking of Come As You Are... My wife and I made the pilgrimage to Aberdeen. And visited a bunch of places we've only read or heard about. Like Kurt's childhood home. And the bridge under which he and his friends used to hang out. It's definately muddy under there and it overlooks the Wishkah river. The bridge makes an appearance in the opening lines of Something In The Way. (Side note, while in Seattle we went to see The Batman and unbeknownst to us that song features prominently. I dig serendipity like that.) Adjacent to the bridge is a small park in honor of Kurt. I don't think the city really embraced their hometown hero until recently, perhaps a lot of that had to do with Kurt's public general dislike of growing up in Aberdeen, but times have changed and he's everywhere now. While we were at the park a lady walked by obviously giving a tour and she mentioned proudly that she went to high school with Kurt. There's a funny sign in front of the house nearest to the park. Man, considering the traffic we saw in just the short time we there I'd hate to live in this house. Seems the owners don't like it all that much either. We didn't get to talk to Phil. We visited some lesser known places like the alley where Kurt was arrested for graffiti. Unfortunately, the graffiti has since been removed. I bet they'd like to have that back. Or his high school, where he never graduated from but ended up getting his first job, as a janitor. Up the street from the high school a bit is the site of his first place after moving out and where he started becoming more serious about writing songs. We even dropped by Krist's childhood home. It's about a mile away, as the crow flies, from Kurt's, but a world apart. There's a really cool little record store downtown, Boomtown Records. I picked up some overpriced Nirvana LPs for some friends just so the receipt would say Aberdeen, WA on it. I picked up some Melvins for me because obviously. The store recently put up a white board below that large Nirvana pic for visitors to sign. The wife and I have center stage. Aberdeen isn't near as bleak as I was expecting. It has a small town vibe, for sure, but it also packs a good amount of personality. Check out Billy's if you like chicken fried steak. I watched Tech beat Texas from one of the booths so I'll probably skip it if I'm ever back here... Edited September 26, 20223 yr by BoomMF
September 26, 20223 yr On 9/23/2022 at 9:07 PM, CooterBrown said: Am I the only one that prefers Bleach to Nevermind and In Utero? The remastered vinyl sounds fantastic. Kim Thayil says it's his favorite. Great interview with Beato here: On 9/23/2022 at 7:31 AM, jimmyjazz said: I prefer Nevermind, I think the playing and recording/mixing is better, but I'm happy to listen to In Utero any day. What blows my mind is that two of the biggest douchebags in rock were behind the glass on both of them (Vig and Albini). Given all the douchebags there are in rock, you can just drop this tease and not follow up.
September 26, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said: I'm sorry . . . different strokes and all that . . . but that's terrible. Why, Jazzy Jim? Tell us why.
September 26, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said: Why, Jazzy Jim? Tell us why. I don't know, it just loses all the tension and the harmonic structure seems buried. Half bop, half smooth jazz. Just didn't work for me.
September 27, 20223 yr On 9/26/2022 at 8:51 AM, jimmyjazz said: I don't know, it just loses all the tension and the harmonic structure seems buried. Half bop, half smooth jazz. Just didn't work for me. I wonder if your reaction would’ve been different if I hadn’t mentioned that the sax player and drummer went on to play with members of the Dead. I know you’re biased where they’re concerned. ”Harmonic structure seems buried.” Lulz. Whatever, Miles. You’re listening to a compressed, streaming mp3. It’s not hi-fi. It’s strictly academic. I thought some Nirvana fans might find someone else’s interpretation of one of their songs interesting. This isn’t the place to discuss Charlie Hunter. But that was a recording intended to gain exposure to the college radio crowd. There are two basic themes in the song and they get explored more in that version than in the original. You could have just let it go if it didn’t “work” for you. But no, you had to shit on it and call it “terrible.” God, you’re a beating.
October 23, 20232 yr Dave, Krist and Steve Albini are on Conan’s podcast today talking about In Utero for the 30th anniversary. Cool talk with some funny stories.
October 26, 20232 yr From the gossip pages: Francis Bean just married Tony Hawk's kid. Michael Stipe was the officiant. Edited October 26, 20232 yr by Gil Bang
October 27, 20232 yr On 9/23/2022 at 9:31 AM, jimmyjazz said: I prefer Nevermind, I think the playing and recording/mixing is better, but I'm happy to listen to In Utero any day. What blows my mind is that two of the biggest douchebags in rock were behind the glass on both of them (Vig and Albini). Albini is a douchebag? I mean, i know he is prickly and can be a snobby asshole, but i find him very charismatic.
October 27, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, yoladu said: Albini is a douchebag? I mean, i know he is prickly and can be a snobby asshole, but i find him very charismatic. These are the douchebaggy things (to me). Maybe it's more Vig is a douchebag and Albini is an asshole. Tomato, tomahto.
October 27, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, G650 said: Albini is hilarious. Also a very good dude who genuinely likes to help people. Eh. In my (admittedly limited) interactions he's always been a total cockmunch. Plus, his drum sounds are ass.
October 27, 20232 yr Just now, jimmyjazz said: Eh. In my (admittedly limited) interactions he's always been a total cockmunch. Plus, his drum sounds are ass. Lol. His drums are an acquired taste, not really my thing but I can see the appeal. But he has always been very conscientious in my interactions with him and generous with his knowledge of Studers at least.
November 5, 20232 yr Eh. In my (admittedly limited) interactions he's always been a total cockmunch. Plus, his drum sounds are ass.Gibby Haynes posted this about Albini a few days ago.
August 1, 20241 yr The riffs on Bleach fuckin' rip, but that drummer pales so badly in comparison to Dave Grohl that it's hard for me to spend as much time with it. I'd give a lot of money to hear a version of Bleach with Dave on drums.
July 22Jul 22 Okay don't kill the messenger. Kurt was such a great songwriter these songs work in any genre.
July 22Jul 22 6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: Those are terrible. Agreed. And I even like 80s synth pop.
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