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22 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

 

Stop looking at my finger 

..or you will miss aw dat heavenly grory

On 6/6/2019 at 1:58 PM, 52-80 said:

you should probably pick a fight with a beginner boxer with a 7 inch and 70 pound advantage on you.  id love to see the outcome of that.

   That dude would have to be 290lbs and have an almost 90 inch wingspan. Not sure that kind of boxer exists. Even so, you have clearly never taken a hard kick to the side of the knee. Doesn't matter the boxer you are, you are going down after a couple of those.

5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

   That dude would have to be 290lbs and have an almost 90 inch wingspan. Not sure that kind of boxer exists. Even so, you have clearly never taken a hard kick to the side of the knee. Doesn't matter the boxer you are, you are going down after a couple of those.

I'm sure they hurt.  But so do punches, from a boxer.

In MMA where kicks are allowed, they account for what - 10% of strikes?  And about 10% of KOs.  It ain't exactly a lethal weapon, relatively speaking.

The KO rates in UFC by weight class, I've seen goes from something like 20% in lightweight fights, up to 80% in heavyweight.  Because power *scales* way more *quickly* than ability to absorb a shot. 

You see those HW guys knock out monster-sized dudes, from what look like a single short, quick punch?  Meanwhile the middle- and welter-weights are clobbering each other with clean hooks for 5 rounds.

If Bruce Lee was 190 instead of 150# wet, his speed advantage could offset Ali's power.  But at their weights, a jab would Ali would have him seeing stars

 

 

8 hours ago, 52-80 said:

I'm sure they hurt.  But so do punches, from a boxer.

In MMA where kicks are allowed, they account for what - 10% of strikes?  And about 10% of KOs.  It ain't exactly a lethal weapon, relatively speaking.

The KO rates in UFC by weight class, I've seen goes from something like 20% in lightweight fights, up to 80% in heavyweight.  Because power *scales* way more *quickly* than ability to absorb a shot. 

You see those HW guys knock out monster-sized dudes, from what look like a single short, quick punch?  Meanwhile the middle- and welter-weights are clobbering each other with clean hooks for 5 rounds.

If Bruce Lee was 190 instead of 150# wet, his speed advantage could offset Ali's power.  But at their weights, a jab would Ali would have him seeing stars

you don’t seem to understand grappling and submissions.  while y’all are debating a hypothetical, royce gracie actually beat professional fighters who were twice his size.  skill > size

7 minutes ago, futureman said:

you don’t seem to understand grappling and submissions.  while y’all are debating a hypothetical, royce gracie actually beat professional fighters who were twice his size.  skill > size

You mean the same Gracie family that canonized modern and grappling and submission?  as opposed to a bruce lee who "practiced" grappling. 

Royce himself would also tower over Bruce in stature. The only "twice his size" Royce fought was a 500 pound sumo wrestler in a freak match. 

Comparison is as valid as apples vs motorbikes.

 

2 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

You mean the same Gracie family that canonized modern and grappling and submission?  as opposed to a bruce lee who "practiced" grappling. 

Royce himself would also tower over Bruce in stature. The only "twice his size" Royce fought was a 500 pound sumo wrestler in a freak match. 

Comparison is as valid as apples vs motorbikes.

 

you sound scared.  just take your L and move on, pal. 

3 hours ago, futureman said:

you sound scared.  just take your L and move on, pal

Fight me outside bro

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