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1 hour ago, Seasick Sailor said:

This obviously sucks, but let's not forget we lost game 3 of the 2017 ALDS 10-3. 

got 'em right where we want 'em

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Didn't feel great going into this game. Uncle Charlie at home in that shitbox of a stadium the Astros don't play well in. Onto the next one. Let's just hope Minnesota doesn't shit the bed tonight

 

I could seeing one of the two aces pitching tomorrow with a late lead.  Not as a starter

Yes
You don’t lead with an ace
You play the ace to finish out the round

See 2017 ALDS

Yeah, based on 2017 I expect JV on short rest if we have a lead late.

Personally I'd rather not do it and guarantee that no one but full rest JV and Cole throw a pitch in Game 5 if it comes to that.

Yeah, I would save them for game 5.  Starting JV on short rest in game 4 is a panic move.  The Rays have to bullpen it tomorrow, so it's not like they are trotting out an ace.

Edited by kevwun

If we win this series I think we need to shake up our starting rotation for the next series. If the rotation is Verlander, Cole, Greinke, bullpen, Verlander, Cole, Greinke I don’t want Greinke pitching game 7

I'm not sure MLBNet's dugout lipreader is word for word accurate....

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Seems like we’d start Urquidy and have a quick hook for JV, not start JV.  Shit.

3 minutes ago, Limp Brisket said:

Seems like we’d start Urquidy and have a quick hook for JV, not start JV.  Shit.

What’s the point of that?  Seems regarded.

3 minutes ago, Honeysucklerose said:

Hinch just announced JV

I like it. If needed, Cole starts game 5 on normal rest.

12 minutes ago, Amos Moses said:

What’s the point of that?  Seems regarded.

The point is Urquidy has had some great  outings and if he gave you one he’s capable of you don’t run JV if you don’t have to.  It’s Game 4 not 5.  But I’ll trust Hinch who’s the actual coach.

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

I like it. If needed, Cole starts game 5 on normal rest.

Yep.  And if it plays out well, Cole gets game 1 with Verlander in game 2 of the ALCS.  Six in one...

If you don’t close it out tomorrow, it really jacks with the ALCS rotation, so you have to play your best option.  

At least if this doesn't work out, Cole is still there for game 5.

Who would have guessed that Machete would be our most consistent trade deadline pick up this year?

 

At least 2-1 are the only numbers that count

 

Not Rays 13, Astros 12 in the runs column.

 

Let’s go bats.

I could see the Rays staff having a game like they did in our last regular season matchup when they used 7 pitchers and walked 10 batters in the process. But need the timely hitting to show up unlike that game (2-11 RISP, 11 LOB).

 

7 minutes ago, Limp Brisket said:

The point is Urquidy has had some great  outings and if he gave you one he’s capable of you don’t run JV if you don’t have to.  It’s Game 4 not 5.  But I’ll trust Hinch who’s the actual coach.

Guess I misunderstood you ... thought you were advocating to start Urquidy with JV ready out of the pen.  I don’t mind starting Urquidy in place of JV on short rest, but wouldn’t see the point to burn JV if he’s not starting.

36 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Yeah, I would save them for game 5.  Starting JV on short rest in game 4 is a panic move.  The Rays have to bullpen it tomorrow, so it's not like they are trotting out an ace.

I mean, we'd still have GC throwing in game 5, so it kinda makes sense.  And honestly, I'd prefer a mortally wounded JV on the mound over a troupe of middle bullpen guys, who at least lately, seem to have forgotten how to pitch.

6 minutes ago, Amos Moses said:

No hits George is killing Fun MVP George.  

'Member when he went 3 for 26 against the Yankees in the 2017 ALCS?

I 'member.

Good thing we're deep.

32 minutes ago, Honeysucklerose said:

Hinch just announced JV

That's the right move.  Make them beat JV and Cole to win this series.

Now that someone pointed out that doing it this way won't screw up the ALCS rotation, I feel better about it.

Edited by kevwun

I’m pretty sure it’s about going all out to avoid game 5 so you have Cole/Verlander in games 1 and 2 in the ALCS (whereas if one of them starts game 5, he’s off the table until game 3).

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'Member when he went 3 for 26 against the Yankees in the 2017 ALCS?
I 'member.
Good thing we're deep.

Oh I do too but I’d take 3 for 26 in a heartbeat compared to what we’re seeing right now...

0-13. 1 BB in 14 PAs through three games.
At least only 3 of the 13 have been Ks and no GIDPs.

Get this out of your system now ahead of the LCS.
I’m pretty sure it’s about going all out to avoid game 5 so you have Cole/Verlander in games 1 and 2 in the ALCS (whereas if one of them starts game 5, he’s off the table until game 3).

I hear ya, but having JV or Cole start game 3 in Yankee stadium (instead of Greinke)... and having Greinke go in game 2 at home to split up the flamethrowers wouldn’t be the worst thing either.

What an absolutely shittastic performance by Greinke.

I understood the whole “wait all season, can’t judge the CFM move in July before the annual injury” argument, but we can judge it now.

Gave up Chuck and four prospects for the right to pay Greinke ~$3M more per season.  Yay.

Still, Astros in 4.

i saw g5 is on thurs, which means regular rest for cole, which makes me feel better about jv tomorrow.

i swear in the past few years games 3-4-5 were on consecutive days (if necessary, which they weren't) but maybe i'm mis-remembering.

i still cannot believe i got work done today.

What time do we play if the Yankees win tonight?

5 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

What time do we play if the Yankees win tonight?

6:07 CT

Hate that this is a Best of 5 Series.... No shot for Rays to beat Astros if it was a 7 game series.

Ill be at game 4 too bitches!!!

Sit george and Brantley for straw and tucker. Both are dead weight right now.

Sit george and Brantley for straw and tucker. Both are dead weight right now.
Wut
13 minutes ago, Jshep34 said:

Sit george and Brantley for straw and tucker. Both are dead weight right now.

Go home Lil Shep you’re drunk.

It didn't make a difference in the final result the past two games, but it fucking enrages me that we can't get a guy in from 3rd with less than 2 out.

5 minutes ago, utxmike05 said:

Well there is this post:

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We weren’t the 1 seed in 2017.   It was Cleveland in the AL and Dodgers with the overall.   But he’s on a roll, so carry on.  

Well there is this post:

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We had the third best record in 2017.

Let me guess.. Astros Nation Facebook group or whatever it is?

so as much as i prefer urquidy tomorrow vs jv on short rest then relying on a full-rest cole in a must-win game, it doesn't play out that much differently than what i laid out last week - which was to pitch greinke in g2 to have cole on the road in g3.  let me explain...

if we win tomorrow, then yay, and cole goes on sat (+ rest) and jv can go on sunday (regular rest), leaving greinke coming off a dogshit outing in g3 in yankee stadium, which is not great.  it also sets up cole in g1/g5 and verlander in g2/g6 and then greinke in a potential home g7.  obviously, in that instance, you hope you're 2-2 and have cole beast out in g5 then jv close shit out at home in 6.

but if we lose tomorrow, then cole goes thurs in g5.  assuming we win (please please) then you have greinke in g1 at home, jv on sunday (regular rest), and cole starting g3 in yankee stadium, which could be nice.  it also sets up jv and cole to go in g6 and g7 at home.  pretty good "worst case scenario" with the staff. 

either way, we'll have to go urquidy in g4 on the road, even if he only throws 3-4 innings.  would've been nice to get him experience tomorrow.  not sure why he didn't come in today, since hinch clearly already knew what he was doing.  i guess he can give you 2 tomorrow if jv can only go 5.

33 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

We weren’t the 1 seed in 2017.   It was Cleveland in the AL and Dodgers with the overall.   But he’s on a roll, so carry on.  

you know who loves coincidences?  idiots and children.

Just wanted to say fuck off MLB for the bullshit Noon start time. 
 

biggest games of year...let’s play at a time we never do so the fewest amount of people will watch. No other sport does this bullshit. 162 games but now in a rush. 
 

have the Stros played one game all season at 11am?

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