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On 5/25/2020 at 12:53 PM, henrygandorf said:

still waiting on an answer here. 

 

On 5/25/2020 at 1:36 PM, bad_teammate said:

The less abusive plantation owner (Biden) is better than the more abusive one (Trump). No one has argued otherwise, and it's a revealing distinction for you to get hung up on on a forum where less than 10% of participants are fans of Trump.

But I guess you painted yourself in a corner with your troll set-up, so now you need to dance out of it. :(

I'm going to disagree with you both. Whatever you think Trump is or has done, multiply it x5 for Joe.

And no, cowardly racists, that's not a Trump endorsement.

Biden supported and basically wrote the '94 crime bill. How did that turn out for black America?

Which one of these assholes worked with segregationists in the seventies to keep his kids from growing up in a racist jungle?

Which of these assholes got sued for trying to keep black people out of their buildings?

If you want to vote for Crazy Joe Biden, that's fine, but stop acting like he's not what he truly is. 

As I say that as someone who thought he would make a decent POTUS at one time.

 

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13 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s Wyoming. They will all go R. 

Teton and Albany county are close, no?

Edit: Either way, living in Wyoming gives you the most powerful vote of people in any state since there’s such a small number of you. 

Edited by StassneyHorn

Trump has been successfully sued (or maybe it settled) for keeping black applicants from renting in his buildings. 

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

Teton and Albany county are close, no?

But I’m in park. And statewide elections will go R, there’s not enough Californian transplants in Jackson to make a dent. 

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

But I’m in park. And statewide elections will go R, there’s not enough Californian transplants in Jackson to make a dent. 

Gotcha, have lifelong memories from Yellowstone and Cody. 

31 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

I'm going to disagree with you both. Whatever you think Trump is or has done, multiply it x5 for Joe.

And no, cowardly racists, that's not a Trump endorsement.

Biden supported and basically wrote the '94 crime bill. How did that turn out for black America?

Which one of these assholes worked with segregationists in the seventies to keep his kids from growing up in a racist jungle?

Which of these assholes got sued for trying to keep black people out of their buildings?

If you want to vote for Crazy Joe Biden, that's fine, but stop acting like he's not what he truly is. 

As I say that as someone who thought he would make a decent POTUS at one time.

now do jewish people.

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

now do jewish people.

Can't. I don't have their experiences or privileges.

Trump has been successfully sued (or maybe it settled) for keeping black applicants from renting in his buildings. 

I know. That was the joke.

LOL at every one of these idiot millennials who bring up the 94 crime bill as a reason not to vote for Biden, as if they were aware of the condition of the cities at that time.  Go look at the crime stats from the 80s and early 90s - there's a reason that bill had bipartisan support including from the black community.

Of course, these woke millennials would have to look it up because they were still in diapers and had no clue what was going on. 

Every one of these woke dipshits who criticize the crime bill would have voted for it themselves if they were actually living in the cities at that time.

31 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

LOL at every one of these idiot millennials who bring up the 94 crime bill as a reason not to vote for Biden, as if they were aware of the condition of the cities at that time.  Go look at the crime stats from the 80s and early 90s - there's a reason that bill had bipartisan support including from the black community.

Of course, these woke millennials would have to look it up because they were still in diapers and had no clue what was going on. 

Every one of these woke dipshits who criticize the crime bill would have voted for it themselves if they were actually living in the cities at that time.

This is true. Crime was out of control in the late 80s and early 90s. People not around then don’t have any recollection of that. Crime was the number one concern of the electorate at the time, for good reason.

What never got addressed was the root cause of that. Band aids were planted on the problem and they worked for awhile. 

“Yeah business is booming. You got your drugs and your illegals.” - Sheriff Sam in Lone Star.

But the ultimate problem remained. And that is the fact that America is not a society of all of its people. Its a society built upon to enforce the rule of law to maintain the status quo without regard to those who do not benefit from it, even though its the richest society that every existed in all of history. 

The simple legacy of genocide and slavery. 

“I built this place with my own two hands!” - Sal from do the right thing. 

This virus does have the ability to rip away the veneer that we have all been living through. So it does have the ability to expose them the truth, and untimely could lead to a better country for all, not just for some. 

 

 

8 hours ago, TexLonghorn said:

 

Yeah, Baio.  Biden slipped up.  Again.  As usual.  We're gonna have to get used to it.  Your guy Trump in one day called for black looters to be shot and called them Thugs.  

Maybe sit the next couple of plays out.  Maybe look into a "Charles in Charge" reboot.

It's time for Biden to get out of the basement and start holding some pressers, interviews, etc. We need to see an alternative in action. 

It's time for Biden to get out of the basement and start holding some pressers, interviews, etc. We need to see an alternative in action. 
At this rate you could probably run a mop with a face put on it and have it use the Jennifer Lopez voice from southpark and still beat trump
14 hours ago, Message Board User said:

LOL at every one of these idiot millennials who bring up the 94 crime bill as a reason not to vote for Biden, as if they were aware of the condition of the cities at that time.  Go look at the crime stats from the 80s and early 90s - there's a reason that bill had bipartisan support including from the black community.

Of course, these woke millennials would have to look it up because they were still in diapers and had no clue what was going on. 

Every one of these woke dipshits who criticize the crime bill would have voted for it themselves if they were actually living in the cities at that time.

Well this millennial was 22 at the time. And saw first hand the damage it caused. And it still didn't stop the violence.

14 hours ago, Message Board User said:

LOL at every one of these idiot millennials who bring up the 94 crime bill as a reason not to vote for Biden, as if they were aware of the condition of the cities at that time.  Go look at the crime stats from the 80s and early 90s - there's a reason that bill had bipartisan support including from the black community.

Of course, these woke millennials would have to look it up because they were still in diapers and had no clue what was going on. 

Every one of these woke dipshits who criticize the crime bill would have voted for it themselves if they were actually living in the cities at that time.

Whenever I see posts like this berating black people for holding politicians accountable, I always like to send a friendly remind that 52% of white women casted their vote for Trump a couple of weeks after finding out he liked to grab them by the pussies. Meanwhile, 91% of black people voted for HRC. The number is higher for black millennials (95%). We are not the problem. 

2 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

It's time for Biden to get out of the basement and start holding some pressers, interviews, etc. We need to see an alternative in action. 

I don't think this would play out the way you might want it to play out.

2 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

It's time for Biden to get out of the basement and start holding some pressers, interviews, etc. We need to see an alternative in action. 

Do you really think he needs to do anything at this point?

I don't want Joe Biden speaking extemporaneously. I want him to be a walking mouthpiece for a room full of mixed-race Millenials/Zoomers telling him what to say through an earpiece.

Yeah, Biden needs to be sending out one heavily vetted tweet per day, one short, edited, recorded video per day, and doing one short interview per week to show he’s not dead.  Anything beyond that is likely to do more harm than good.

1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:

Yeah, Biden needs to be sending out one heavily vetted tweet per day, one short, edited, recorded video per day, and doing one short interview per week to show he’s not dead.  Anything beyond that is likely to do more harm than good.

yep.  this is basically what's been going on the past few weeks and it's not a coincidence.

It's time for Biden to get out of the basement and start holding some pressers, interviews, etc. We need to see an alternative in action. 

He just did his first pandemic in person interview on CNN with Dana Bash last week, and he made a speech yesterday on the George Floyd situation that was broadcast on MSNBC and CNN.

He’s done a ton of interviews and live streams over the last two months and the news channels show maybe a 20 second clip some days and most days they don’t cover him at all.

Hell, the dumb “You ain’t black if you vote for Trump” was literally from an interview! And the media spent five days hand wringing over that instead of covering any other public stuff he’s done.

The “Biden is hiding in his basement” crap is a Trump talking point and the media has played into that by not covering him.

The Biden campaign does plenty of legitimately dumb stuff but he has been anything but silent.

Put the blame on this where it belongs - lack of media coverage. Unless it involves Tara Reade or a dumb gaffe said in a interview.
Yeah, Biden needs to be sending out one heavily vetted tweet per day, one short, edited, recorded video per day, and doing one short interview per week to show he’s not dead.  Anything beyond that is likely to do more harm than good.

lol

That’s literally what he’s been doing.

It’s not his fault that it’s being ignored because, ya know, pandemic, widespread protests, and Trump being Trump is sucking all the oxygen away from everything else.

I’m still fucking baffled that we could basically vote anyone into office right now and we’re stuck with Joe Biden. What a wasted opportunity for the progressive movement.

7 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

I’m still fucking baffled that we could basically vote anyone into office right now and we’re stuck with Joe Biden. What a wasted opportunity for the progressive movement.

baffled votes count just the same.  see you in november.

I’m still fucking baffled that we could basically vote anyone into office right now and we’re stuck with Joe Biden. What a wasted opportunity for the progressive movement.

The progressive movement needs to get out and grow their coalition and , ya know, vote.
54 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

I’m still fucking baffled that we could basically vote anyone into office right now and we’re stuck with Joe Biden. What a wasted opportunity for the progressive movement.

I look at it that Joe Biden, as a moderate against the biggest crybaby there’s ever been in office, brings out as close to as many people as possible from Dem circles as well as jilted Republicans. If that coalition votes D downballot, they could break some Republican gerrymanders and get more D seats in redistricting that give Progressives a better chance at representation the next 10 years.

11 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

I look at it that Joe Biden, as a moderate against the biggest crybaby there’s ever been in office, brings out as close to as many people as possible from Dem circles as well as jilted Republicans. If that coalition votes D downballot, they could break some Republican gerrymanders and get more D seats in redistricting that give Progressives a better chance at representation the next 10 years.

all of this.

2020 is a monster election with the census and the potential of sinking the trump ship that so many terrible republicans have tethered themselves to.  if done right, this could proper fuck the gop for 12-16 years.  rarely does that type of opportunity come along.

unfortunately, 2016 was the perfect year for a revolution candidate or an outsider.  2020 is not.  thanks, hillary.

Imagine if all the candidates who marketed themselves progressive throughout the course of the election dropped out after Nevada (and it was clear they had no chance) and endorsed the progressive candidate who had a great chance instead of either not endorsing or endorsing the candidate who is openly anti-progressive and anti-youth. It's almost like their progressive beliefs and the progressive beliefs of their followers were just marketing.

Just really funny to watch people who spent a year pretending to be progressive be so quick to "other" the movement.

 

imagine if Bernie's campaign and supporters didn't label every other D candidate as a "Republican" or "neolib" and attack them mercilessly throughout the primary. 

 

I'm imagining it, Hank, and... I don't see any difference. The primary wasn't determined by hurt feelings on Twitter or message boards.

A unified progressive front among the notable and powerful might have actually been determinative. A unified from among the purported progressive "leaders" might have actually led toa  Democratic leader right now who promotes exactly the kind of economic and criminal justice reforms that would address many of the systemic issues that are the problems today. Instead, the purported progressive "leaders" lined up behind "you ain't black."

I'm taking shots at the powerful, you and your fellows here cannot see beyond your hurt feelings on social media, which is deeply and personally pathetic.

2 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

baffled votes count just the same.  see you in november.

No no you won’t. And we aren’t baffled. Far from it.

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:


The progressive movement needs to get out and grow their coalition and , ya know, vote.

Lol

20 hours ago, Message Board User said:

LOL at every one of these idiot millennials who bring up the 94 crime bill as a reason not to vote for Biden, as if they were aware of the condition of the cities at that time.  Go look at the crime stats from the 80s and early 90s - there's a reason that bill had bipartisan support including from the black community.

Of course, these woke millennials would have to look it up because they were still in diapers and had no clue what was going on. 

Every one of these woke dipshits who criticize the crime bill would have voted for it themselves if they were actually living in the cities at that time.

Pathetic

18 hours ago, TexLonghorn said:

 

MAGA celebrities are so fucking F-list. Scott Baio, James Woods, Kid Rock. It’s the Hollywood No-Star Team.

Just now, BrickHorn said:

MAGA celebrities are so fucking F-list. Scott Baio, James Woods, Kid Rock. It’s the Hollywood No-Star Team.

And their god is a game-show host who has been a running national joke since the 80s.

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33 minutes ago, Dropout said:

No no you won’t. And we aren’t baffled. Far from it.

the person i responded to said they were baffled.

you're not voting this fall?  or you're just not voting for the people that i'm voting for?

1 hour ago, Dropout said:

No no you won’t. And we aren’t baffled. Far from it.

Lol

username checks out

32 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

the person i responded to said they were baffled.

you're not voting this fall?  or you're just not voting for the people that i'm voting for?

The comedic value is off the charts lately. To keep from crying you know. Imagine if bots didn’t bend the knee to the likes of Joe Biden and Donald Trump. 

5 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

all of this.

2020 is a monster election with the census and the potential of sinking the trump ship that so many terrible republicans have tethered themselves to.  if done right, this could proper fuck the gop for 12-16 years.  rarely does that type of opportunity come along.

Don't forget SCOTUS appointments

Why doesn’t Biden give an address to the nation? Trump’s going to sulk and cower in the White House. Biden could make himself look like the de facto president by giving some high-minded speech while sitting at a mahogany desk. Seems like an opportunity, both to upstage Trump and to maybe show some leadership in a time of crisis.

oh because "now is not the time to politicize" things, according to the GOP's playbook of mass shootings etc. That's how it would play. There is never a time to lead, according to the cynical, grifter GOP.

 

11 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

Yeah, Biden needs to be sending out one heavily vetted tweet per day, one short, edited, recorded video per day, and doing one short interview per week to show he’s not dead.  Anything beyond that is likely to do more harm than good.

You are 100% right. Do that for 5 months and it’s a trouncing. What a world. When the other guy shoots himself in the dick repeatedly it’s best to watch him do it and stay clear. 

6 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

MAGA celebrities are so fucking F-list. Scott Baio, James Woods, Kid Rock. It’s the Hollywood No-Star Team.

Kid rock doesn’t belong with those other names- he’s at least C string and maybe a B minus. But yeah- chachi... yikes. 

20 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Why doesn’t Biden give an address to the nation? Trump’s going to sulk and cower in the White House. Biden could make himself look like the de facto president by giving some high-minded speech while sitting at a mahogany desk. Seems like an opportunity, both to upstage Trump and to maybe show some leadership in a time of crisis.

if trump refuses to address the nation, biden needs to say something tomorrow.  maybe obama too.  people want leadership.

40 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Why doesn’t Biden give an address to the nation? Trump’s going to sulk and cower in the White House. Biden could make himself look like the de facto president by giving some high-minded speech while sitting at a mahogany desk. Seems like an opportunity, both to upstage Trump and to maybe show some leadership in a time of crisis.

 

Biden would be best served to not say a single word until after the election.  Let the orange narcissist embarrass himself.  Do not debate Trump, it would be brutal. Joe needs really smart people around him.  He is a decent man, but he has obviously lost a step mentally, or 5.  But i think Biden will win anyway if he avoids public speaking.

2 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Kid rock doesn’t belong with those other names- he’s at least C string and maybe a B minus. But yeah- chachi... yikes. 

Tom selleck and Clint Eastwood don’t even rate a mention?

Kid rock doesn’t belong with those other names- he’s at least C string and maybe a B minus. But yeah- chachi... yikes. 

Maybe 15 years ago. He’s way past his expiration date.
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