September 11, 20196 yr How does Kelly get that dramatic inside-out movement--is he torquing his wrist opposite just before release?
September 11, 20196 yr 36 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said: How does Kelly get that dramatic inside-out movement--is he torquing his wrist opposite just before release? No, it just comes spinning/sliding out of his hand that way. The real question is how it comes out at 98 if it's spinning/sliding like that.
September 11, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Beau Vine said: No, it just comes spinning/sliding out of his hand that way. The real question is how it comes out at 98 if it's spinning/sliding like that. The answer has to do with the TJ surgery he's going to have in about 8 months.
September 11, 20196 yr 3 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said: How does Kelly get that dramatic inside-out movement--is he torquing his wrist opposite just before release? That would be a screw ball, no?
September 11, 20196 yr 10 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said: That would be a screw ball, no? In some ways, yes, but as Beau noted, it's moving 98 mph. Never seen that sort of left-to-right, inside-out movement and at that velocity from a right-hander.
September 11, 20196 yr It's just a weird combination of arm angle, low spin, and high velocity. That kind of movement can be good for generating GB but it's not very good for generating swinging strikes. For instance, Kelly only has a 8% SwStr rate for his fastballs this season which is pretty poor for someone who averages 98 mph. Edited September 11, 20196 yr by Fozzz
September 11, 20196 yr When I was a kid, we all used to try to throw screwballs. None of us could, despite trying every grip and arm motion we could think of. We knew what it was supposed to do but couldn't come up with all the ingredients. Some of that was because the coaches didn't know much more than we players did...but mostly, it was because we had zero talent.
September 11, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, Gut Wagon said: When I was a kid, we all used to try to throw screwballs. None of us could, despite trying every grip and arm motion we could think of. We knew what it was supposed to do but couldn't come up with all the ingredients. Some of that was because the coaches didn't know much more than we players did...but mostly, it was because we had zero talent. Also because the human arm is not made to rotate in that direction.
September 16, 20196 yr On 9/11/2019 at 9:50 AM, Braff Zacklin said: How does Kelly get that dramatic inside-out movement--is he torquing his wrist opposite just before release?
December 6, 20196 yr On 11/19/2019 at 10:49 PM, Beau Vine said: Game would take eight hours with that doofus pitching.
December 23, 20196 yr Just now, Ignatius said: If you could create a pitcher who had only Nolan Ryan’s fastball and Petey’s change and literally no other pitches, he would shatter Nolan’s strikeout record in 15 years....
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