Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Surly Horns

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Football ... Basketball ... Baseball ... Other Sports ... Futbol ... 🤫995🤫 ... Gambling ... Movies & TV ... Music ... Hobbies ... Lulz ... Food & Travel ... Daily Texan ... Business & Markets ... Cloak Room ... Help ... For Sale ... Board Discussion ... Advertise... Tailgate Donations

Featured Replies

I thought I would see how the 2019 season stacks up against our previous seasons from a computer ranking perspective.  I realize that achievement in the NCAA tourney is the ultimate benchmark, but the computer rankings can also put the entire season into perspective.  For example, is it better to get a 3 seed and then lose in the first round, or to get an 8 seed and make it to the round of 32, or to miss the tourney and win the NIT?

Here are the Pomeroy results since 2002 taking into account the post-season games:

  • 2002 - 27 (6) - Sweet 16
  • 2003 - 7 (1) - Final 4
  • 2004 - 17 (3) - Sweet 16
  • 2005 - 28 (3) - Out 1st Round
  • 2006 - 4 (2) - Elite 8
  • 2007 - 25 (4) - Round of 32
  • 2008 - 9 (2) - Elite 8
  • 2009 - 22 (7) - Round of 32
  • 2010 - 19 (8) - Out 1st Round
  • 2011 - 5 (4) - Sweet 16
  • 2012 - 32 (11) - Out 1st Round
  • 2013 - 94 - CBI 
  • 2014 - 41 (7) - Round of 32
  • 2015 - 24 (11) - Out 1st Round
  • ----------------------------------------------------
  • 2016 - 39 (6) - Out 1st Round
  • 2017 - 70
  • 2018 - 36 (10) - Out 1st Round
  • 2019 - 25 - (NIT) - NIT Champ

Interestingly, our best year was 2006 when we made the Elite 8 and finished 4th, not the 2003 Final 4 run.  The worst year was Barnes' 2013 CBI disaster, finishing #94.  This year's NIT Championship yields a #25 final ranking, which ties for the 8th best season over the last 18 years.  This is also our 2nd best season since the Sweet 16 run in 2011, with only the 2015 #24 finish being better.

Barnes last 4 years averaged 47.8.  Shaka's first 4 years have averaged 42.5.  About the same.  Slightly better.  Both pretty shitty.

We have truly been wandering in the desert for the last 10 years.  

But what if you took every team that made the NCAA and gave it 4-5 NIT games and subsequent wins?  How much would that affect the final computer numbers?  Just curious.  Not trying to be contrarian.  

16 hours ago, HookEm said:

I thought I would see how the 2019 season stacks up against our previous seasons from a computer ranking perspective.  I realize that achievement in the NCAA tourney is the ultimate benchmark, but the computer rankings can also put the entire season into perspective.  For example, is it better to get a 3 seed and then lose in the first round, or to get an 8 seed and make it to the round of 32, or to miss the tourney and win the NIT?

Here are the Pomeroy results since 2002 taking into account the post-season games:

  • 2002 - 27 (6) - Sweet 16
  • 2003 - 7 (1) - Final 4
  • 2004 - 17 (3) - Sweet 16
  • 2005 - 28 (3) - Out 1st Round
  • 2006 - 4 (2) - Elite 8
  • 2007 - 25 (4) - Round of 32
  • 2008 - 9 (2) - Elite 8
  • 2009 - 22 (7) - Round of 32
  • 2010 - 19 (8) - Out 1st Round
  • 2011 - 5 (4) - Sweet 16
  • 2012 - 32 (11) - Out 1st Round
  • 2013 - 94 - CBI 
  • 2014 - 41 (7) - Round of 32
  • 2015 - 24 (11) - Out 1st Round
  • ----------------------------------------------------
  • 2016 - 39 (6) - Out 1st Round
  • 2017 - 70
  • 2018 - 36 (10) - Out 1st Round
  • 2019 - 25 - (NIT) - NIT Champ

Interestingly, our best year was 2006 when we made the Elite 8 and finished 4th, not the 2003 Final 4 run.  The worst year was Barnes' 2013 CBI disaster, finishing #94.  This year's NIT Championship yields a #25 final ranking, which ties for the 8th best season over the last 18 years.  This is also our 2nd best season since the Sweet 16 run in 2011, with only the 2015 #24 finish being better.

Barnes last 4 years averaged 47.8.  Shaka's first 4 years have averaged 42.5.  About the same.  Slightly better.  Both pretty shitty.

We have truly been wandering in the desert for the last 10 years.  

We didn't go to the sweet 16 in 2011. We lost to Arizona in the round of 32. And I'm fairly certain we weren't a 3 seed in 2005. 

Edited by Catdaddyhorn

  • Author

Right, 2005 we were an 8 seed.  Also right on 2011.  They started calling the round of 32 "round 3" around then and it threw me off.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.